Eating less meat
By Debs_place
@Debs_place (10520)
United States
April 25, 2008 10:13am CST
I work in a group home and almost 40% of the food budget goes for meat. They guys are all big eaters and they are big guys. Two of them are approaching 300 pounds.
My manager has suggested that we buy less meat. I was figuring that we could use more beans to substitute for meat.
I am hoping to get suggestions on how we can work beans into the meals so that we can use less meat.
Thanks.
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18 responses
@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
25 Apr 08
I think most people eat way too much meat anyway, in this day and age. I eat a little more than I should because I do a lot of weight lifting and need extra protein. But, I also eat beans. Mostly, I like to eat them in my salads. I use Pinto and Garbanzo beans. You can also try using more peanut butter, too, that's always good. Perhaps you can eat more eggs, too. Good luck!
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Apr 08
4 guys, 5 dozen eggs a week and a giant jar of peanut butter, I think for them the beans would be healthier.
Thanks
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
25 Apr 08
My wife and I have developed a recipe for 'sloppy joes' that reduces the amount of meat while adding fresh chopped vegatables. What's the recipe? One half as much meat and whatever fresh vegatables we can get to chop up. Beets, carrots, beans, whatever all work fine. This recipe increases a person's fiber intake while reducing an excess of red meat. Don't get me wrong, red meat is good for you, but we Americans eat way too much of it to be healthy.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Apr 08
Oh...sloppy joes..I like that idea...that sounds like a great Saturday afternoon lunch.
Thanks
These guys definitely eat too much meat....they get 1/2 pound plus every day at dinner and want more.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
25 Apr 08
1/2 lb of red meat/day is way too much. I'm thinking 1/4 lb every other day is plenty. However, I'm not an expert. Check with a nutritionist, use the internet. The cost for factual information will probably be zero.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Apr 08
I agree...they eat way too much meat and everything else. 4 guys..Monday through friday and they go though about 40 servings of cereal for breakfast. They also get bagels, eggs, bacon etc.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
26 Apr 08
I do not know how you can do it but I do know the meals will have to be hearty or the men will feel very hungry. Meat is heavy, vegetables are not.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
28 Apr 08
Well my plan is too split the meat right now and add beans.
For example, next week Friday I make an impossible Cheeseburger pie. I will use 1/2 ground turkey, and 1/2 beans.
When I do meatloaf, I will try to do the same thing.
I am thinking, doing a bean salad will help when they get smaller pieces of meat.
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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26 Apr 08
i need to lose some weight and i think stopping eating meat will be a good idea
blessed be
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
28 Apr 08
Do you have a plan for doing this?
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
26 Apr 08
I live in a board and care and there are many times that we get meatless meals. Let's see, there is the macaroni and cheese, salad, and a piece of fruit for lunch. We also get potato pancakes sometimes. Cheese Quesidillas and Omelets. We also have a nutrionist who decides what the portion sizes should be.
You can do meatless mexican food. Where you can do the refried beans instead of meat. The buritos, tostadas, tacos, and nachos can be vegatarian. Balance is the key to a healthy diet.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
28 Apr 08
I wish we had a nutritionist. We make a menus but the people cook what they want. The breakfast may say one serving egg and they get a 3 egg omelet. a serving of juice is between 2 & 3 cups.
Meatless mexican sounds good. I wish I had their cookbook.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
26 Apr 08
Sounds like a good idea. These big guys don't need a lot of meat because they are not working it off. This is unhealthy. Buy stewing beef which is from a cheaper cut. You can do a lot with stewing beef cut into small cubes. Make a stew with potatoes,carrots,corn and Green peas. Put the peas in last because they don't need much cooking. Beef and vegetable soup, with cubed beef and garden veggies is Great for rainy days. Bean and beef casserole, or bean and bacon.I love weiners and beans! Black bean soup with beef cubes.Also brown up the beef cubes and make a stirfry with mushrooms, bean sprouts, broccoli,celery,and whatever else seems to fit.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
28 Apr 08
Oh yes, they love beef soup. The love food of any kind. Unfortunately, no matter how much is in their, when they get done with their soup - they expect their main course.
It is funny that you said you like wieners and beans. A few weeks ago, one of the guys who uses 90% of his speech to request food tells me he wants Hot Dogs. I try to engage the guys in conversation and ask him what he wants with the hot dogs - his reply is Beans. Then he added in Ketchup.
I think it is interesting that he remembers the food he eats so well. One day they had Tiramisu for snack. Two weeks later he requested it for snack at night.
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
25 Apr 08
You can make chili with no meat, or have beans & rice for a meal. What about tofu or complete vegetarian meals?
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
25 Apr 08
Maybe once you show them the difference the budget they will get moving faster on a change of menu.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Apr 08
Well we are just starting this process and are looking to ease into it. And we are just starting on the learning curve.
I just finally got them to buy brown rice and that took almost 14 months of convincing. Last week they bought their first wheat pasta. It will be a long slow haul before they cook vegetarian.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
26 Apr 08
You could do what vegetarians call Hay stacks, that are like a taco salad. On each plate you start with lettuce, corn chips or Brown rice then grated cheese, and pinto beans top with chopped tomatoes and chopped onions, sliced olive, salsa and sour cream. You can cut the calories by using large curd cottage cheese. Drain the cottage cheese then blend with some lemon juice. My family find these quite filling. There are also a number of vegetarian burgers that use beans and or oat meal that are filling. Oatmeal is a very filling and lasting food. You could also get the beef stewing meat and cut it up more put it in a beef gravy (I use mushroom soup) and serve it over rice or noodles. There are also some bean sandwich spread recipes on the net. How about a stir fry with tofu or chicken.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
28 Apr 08
Use the cottage cheese will bended with enough lemon juice to make sour cream. it doesn't matter how the stacks are put together. Every one builds their own.
here is a recipe but I don't use the Boco burger or the avocado
* 1 large package of BOCOBurger (ground meat style) OR 1 lb lean hamburger if you prefer.)
* 1 large onion (minced)
* shredded cheese or Mexican mix cheese
* 1 large tomato chopped
* 1 head of lettuce chopped fine
* 1 can of pinto beans drained (or use refired beans if you prefer--just heat them first)
* 1 avacado cubed
* sour cream
* salsa
* taco seasoning or your own favorite mix of Mexican seasoning
* 1 large bag of corn chips (I prefer the small size frito's not the big dippers.)
Directions
1. Put BOCOBurger in a non-stick skillet and brown slightly.
2. Add the taco seasoning and liquid as package suggests
3. When the taco meat has bubbled add the beans.
4. Assembly: Place a handful of corn chips on a warm plate.
5. Add a couple of spoonfuls of taco meat and beans.
6. Add a bit of cheese and then onion, tomato, lettuce and avacado as desired.
7. Top with a dollop of sour cream and salsa and dig in.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
28 Apr 08
HAystacks..that sounds good. Where do you use cottage cheese in them.
Oatmeal, these guys go through 30 servings a week for breakfast in 3 days...along with their other food.
Your ideas all sound great.
Thanks,
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@GardenGerty (160978)
• United States
26 Apr 08
Besides saving money, you will be helping stabilize their blood sugar, making them feel full longer, for less money. I had a really filling "out to eat" meal with my clients last night. I went to a fast food taco place. I had a bowl dinner. In the bottom was rice, and refried beans, on top of that was the lettuce/tomato salad, and then well seasoned chunks of chicken, cut fairly small. I was so full and it stayed with me better than some meals I have eaten. It would also be good with seasoned beef, or ground turkey. I also use a pork roast, boneless, in my crock pot. I brown it, put it in the bottom of the slow cooker, and pour a can of refries on top of it, and then a large jar of salsa over that. You cook the pork until you can shred it with forks. Use it in tortillas, tacos, on top of a big potato. Make a hot sandwich with it. You do not even realize that there are beans in it, but again, you get the fiber and the economy. You could use the bigger can of refries. Beans and rice, with a little bit of ground meat sprinkled in, or sausage is good. I use brown rice. I do buy an instant brown rice, store brands are usually inexpensive, but with people speculating you do not know what will cost like gold.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
27 Apr 08
Yes, we finally got brown rice in the house, I just bought it this past week. I was hoping to find a big bag..but I could only find small bags. It seems like the stores don't want us to eat healthy.
@hockeygal4ever (10021)
• United States
25 Apr 08
Check out Rachael Ray's website. She utilizes beans a lot. You can use beans in place of most any ground beef in recipes like tacos/tortillas/burritos, add them to a soup base for protein in the soup or stretch your ground beef by crushing the cooked beans and adding them to the meat.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
27 Apr 08
Tonight, we made spaghetti, instead of the usual 3 pounds of turkey I did 1 1/2 pounds and then added 2 cans of kidney beans.
I figure that is a start.
@slickcut (8141)
• United States
25 Apr 08
Meat , especially red meat does not need to be served all the time..It is very high in calories...I have almost cut all meat out except for chicken,fish and turkey,i use a lot of ground turkey..You can make anything from ground turkey and it is much cheaper..All you do is add steak seasoning it to the meat and you cam make anything with it that you can hamburger...These 300 pounders needs to loose a little for their health sake..Beans is very good for you..You could also have a vegtable day,and cook only vegtables that day...
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
27 Apr 08
Yes, I do the grocery shopping and I only get the lean ground turkey...93% lean ground turkey is the same price as the 75% lean ground beef. I am trying to help those guys lose a little weight in painless ways.
@slickcut (8141)
• United States
27 Apr 08
IT is so good to know that others are getting the ground turkey..That is about all i use anymore,you can make anything with ground turkey that you can do with hamburger...Sometimes i will mix steak seasoning in it when i make burgers...it is so good for you,but you know that...
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Apr 08
How about chili ? Everyone likes chili and have some cornbread. then there are bean burritos and tacos and bean soups . Also you might try texured protein that looks like hamburger but its made from soy and you use the same w ay you would hamburger and make pasta dishes andd spaghetti with tomato sauce. Also theres the old standby peanut butter for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. also you might mix rice and beans for a santa fe style dish.Also another idea is polenta fried and its tasty.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
28 Apr 08
Well 2 of the guys have stomach problems and we are told to avoid tomatoes in cooking, and what we end up doing is making separate meals for them.
They get peanut butter and jelly for lunch.
I have not looked into the soy protein yet but am concerned about the price.
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@ruthinian (2309)
• United States
25 Apr 08
I guess you are right. Cooking less meat does not only help in budgeting expenses but managing health issues among the guys. Beans as a meat substitute is good as well as other food that are rich in fiber. there are lots of recipes that you can find online like from Raychel Ray, she makes a lot of dishes that are goods as meat substitute.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Apr 08
Mm...I never thought of rachael ray..I bet I could get my son to look on her web site too...I think he secretly has the hots for her.
@danishcanadian (28955)
• Canada
12 May 08
Beans are a good idea in theiry (I love chilli and burritos), but 300 pound guys eating too many beans will likely produce A LOT OF GAS!!! I coudln' imagine all of those guys eating all of those beans.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
26 Apr 08
what type of meat are you talking about? any meat or red meat? Either way cutting back on the meat and adding things like large salads, rice, fruit plates etc etc would be helpful...also making meat meals with less meat and more veggies etc in it would also be a good idea IMO..
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
28 Apr 08
He didn't say, he just said meat. They get a large bowl of salad everyday with dinner, and we spend about $35 a week on fruit. I don't think rice is such a great idea, they eat tons of carbs and I am just getting brown rice into the house.
@whittby (3072)
• United States
25 Apr 08
We use beans in our meals in very simple ways that you probably already know about.
I mix pinto beans with the ground beef and add it into the burritos with cilantro rice, salsa, lettuce, tomato or whatever.
I use beans for bean soup with ham hocks or ham.
I use dried beans and cook them to make bean dip - I spread this on tostadas or burritos.
How about a bean salad - with black beans or whatever and a nice dressing - put a little corn and chicken with whatever else you like.
I like baked beans with corn bread - put a little meat int the beans if you want and it's a whole meal.
You can make chili and put more beans than meat in it - healthier.
Here's a link to a bean website:
http://www.beanbible.com/
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Apr 08
This is great. I have been using beans a bit and know about these things but the people I work with who also cook are clueless and seem to prefer to remain that way.
Thanks for the link
@creative_genius (992)
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25 Apr 08
I find Soya mince is a good substitute too. Try using pulses to up their protein too. Chick peas, red kidney beans and lentil all make filling meals. When trying to eat on a budget it is often cheap to buy supplies from authentic Indian and Chinese stores. You can pick up larger bags of rice and pulses for a very reasonable price. Good luck!
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