You know what bugs me?

I know I hate when people say things like this too....most guys, at least the nice ones and the ones that are worth the time, like ordinary, average woman...they do not a woman who spends all her time on her looks and is high maintanence!

I had never thought about this before. You have some great points here. And you are so right about the guys. I bet only about 10 percent of men worry about what women want or think of them.

This bugs me, also. I got this pretty much most of my life. I am a tomboy and don't consider myself very feminine and I used to be overweight. So, girls would say stuff like no one was ever going to love me because I was so fat or the like. Well, to tell you the truth, if anyone doesn't like me as I am, then I don't want them, either. I want people to love me as I am comfortable and don't think I should not be myself for someone else.

I find that extremely irritating. And I find women are worst at it too. I really do not care much what men as a group think of me. i am me, and do and say what I feel is right regardless of what men thinks (within the limits of the law, of course).

You are absolutely right women perpetuate this worse. I dont understand why women say those things always. Men may be after women or so but they never dress up for women in particular.

Yeah, I find these scenarios amusing as well. Women do not dress up for other men. They dress up to try to 1-up other women. There is only one problem with that, Guys, for the most part could care less. Guys think dresses are good for several reasons: 1. they come off easier 2. it is one piece of clothing....comes off easier 3. ill give guys the benefit of the doubt on this one: the girl chose the piece of clothing for a reason, so she's more confident in it. I just wear whatever I want to wear. The only time I will ever change what I'm wearing for my boyfriend is when he wants me to wear a corset. The thing is beyond uncomfortable, but he likes it, so i suck it up a few times a month for him.

i really hate also those kind of people just keep on judging others, maybe they cannot found one that why they are guilty, im sure those are the sign of there jelousy to the simple woman but rock :)

I would say it depends on what the women say. The first example, the woman should discard because if guys are like my husband, unless they are fat themselves and even if they are not, they do not like fat girls. As for the second example, guys like girls to be a little conservative, so in the middle, not dressed up to the gills but then again not looking like tr*sh. You dress like a tr*mp that is the type of guy you'll get, you dress all dolled up a guy thinks that he cannot afford you. So any advice should be taken with a grain of salt. If a woman is moderately dressed, she will have no problem. And if you do not be like yourself and marry someone who you cannot relate to, you have a problem.

You are right we do not have to live our life around what MEN want,what MEN like...We should be our own person and do ans dress the way it makes us feel..I like to be me....If a man comes along that does not like the way you are,then hes not for you..

I don't give a rat's azz what others think about me. I'll dress how I want and wear what I want. I'm also a woman of various and sometimes funny moods. If you don't like it, TOUGH DOODOO. Go collect yer dust somewhere else cause I won't waste my valuable time and space on ya. As the song goes-- I don't give a durn what other ppl think..whadda think about that?

well,i sometimes think its always like that but really its not all the time that woman think about what the menfolk think about how they look or what they wear,i think its more of an individual thing rather than a genearl thing

i hate that also lol i don't mind their business so they should mind their own business at all. guys will like you for who you are and what you are but not what you look like and what clothes you should wear

I totally agree with you. I have thought about this before, especially when people say that you're never gonna get a man if you don't (fill in the blank). First of all, I believe in fate and things of this nature. So, I don't think constantly preparing yourself to meet your Mr. Right is gonna lead you to meet a man of greater quality. I also don't like the idea of presenting myself to please others, especially others that I don't even know. I think that women often meet their boyfriends when they least expect it ... when they're in their sweats at the grocery store, the day before their appointment to get that broken nail fixed, when their having a bad hair day, etc... I believe that you go about life, concetrating on more important issues than how your gonna get your next man, and your next man will find you. We, as women, have a great deal of responsibility for the expectations that men have of us. What I often think of is that with all this plastic surgery going on, in the future, men aren't going to see any value in an all natural woman. So sad.

Thank you...Molly rocks... Women are supposed to support women, help women, not go against ourselves. "Guys like thick girls anyway" that's the nice thing they can come up with to tell their friend, yeah, maybe you should lose some weight? that doesn't inspire her to change things she obviously has an issue with. It gives her another reason to stay the way she is. Is that what friends do to each other? A good suggestion would be maybe working out with her, or setting up bike rides you go on together, tell her you think it's a great idea and you'll be there to help her. People need to just be themselves, that's the only way you'll find someone who actually wants to be with you...

thanks sweetie for the best response.

I could care less what men think I dress the way I feel comfortable

Actually women are horrible to each other. Our envy, makes us critical of other females. I suppose in some twisted way it makes us feel better about our own short comings to point out the flaws in other women. I agree with you Molly, it drives me batty to hear someone say something like that.

I couldn't agree more molly - I hate that! I think women should care how THEY feel about how they look - not about how men feel! xxx

well, i don't really care what people say...i even go out with my jammy's..would even go to mall to buy something with jammy's on..i don't care for it doesn't matter what they say...i am not fat but not sexy..i'm skinny..but i don't mind even if clothes doesn't fit me and have no sizes available for me...

Ugh yes that kind of thing really annoys me. I dress well because it makes ME feel good, I would never do it to get a boyfriend (not that I need to anyway luckily). Men aren't too bothered about how women dress, and anyway who wants a boyfriend who judges you solely on your appearance? Personally I would not want someone wh is that shallow.