What do you do about toxic people in your family?
By mommyboo
@mommyboo (13174)
United States
May 19, 2008 8:52pm CST
I had a horrible morning and it has to do with toxic family members. I don't even live NEAR them any more and they still manage to reduce me to a mess. I found out today that my male gendered parental figure (sorry, I can't bring myself to call him DAD right now) is still holding a grudge against me for every single perceived slight I have ever caused him. I was actually looking forward to seeing him when my husband and youngest daughter and I flew up to visit in late summer, but now I have absolutely nothing to say to him. I don't want his bitterness and negativity around my precious family. He is still angry with me for moving in with my ex, marrying my ex, divorcing my ex, moving away, getting remarried, and for all I know, having children.
Do you have somebody like this in your life? Have you written them out? Should I? I still don't have a clear head about this, I cannot believe his attitude, it's like he doesn't want anybody to be happy - because HE isn't. I worry about my mom, I wonder about his life, he has no friends and nothing that occupies him. I had hoped to heal this relationship someday but I am thinking it's gone, totally gone.
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12 responses
@tessah (6617)
• United States
20 May 08
a relationship cant be healed if only one person is trying to mend it, and from the sounds of it.. your "sperm donor" same as mine, doesnt care to heal it. ive had the same relationship with my own prettymuch all my life. he disapproved so much f my husband that he even despses our daughter just simply because shes his.. and refuses to even acknowledge she exists. shes 8 years old and has only seen him twice in her life. he had started running his mouth to other family members about me and mine, and thats where i ended the relationship.. i dont even answer the phone anymore if he calls.. gotta love caller ID feh . sometimes, regardless of yer connection to oters.. such as blood kin, inlaws, etc.. you need to remove certain individuals from your life in order to not allow them to harm you any longer. their behavior doesnt just affect you negatively.. but spreads to the rest of yer immediate family as well because they are watching you hurt because of them. i got fed up with my husband and daughter watchng me cry because of others all the time.. and chose to be happy, and send my time with those who dont poison my life.
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@tessah (6617)
• United States
20 May 08
your husband. simply in loving you.. neednt be an actual witness to your meltdown in order for it to affect him. same with yer kids. i do understand the need to try that "one more time" though.. ive done it countless times myself. but there does eventually come a time when you reach that line of enough is enough.. and yer through with it. strength to you in it all.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 May 08
I only feel a responsibility to try and remedy our relationship because we may be around him in a few months. If it isn't to be, then after my sister's wedding my husband and daughter and I will return home and not give it a second thought. I won't be acknowleding him anymore in any case. My husband didn't have to see the worst of it, I bawled on the phone to my best friend early in the morning. I am so grateful for him, at least our kids have a good dad.
@34momma (13882)
• United States
20 May 08
I have said it before, but everyone is not meant to be in your life forever. I know it is a little different when it comes to parents. but you can love and respect your father and not be around him. You can't allow him to get you down, or make you made. don't ever give anyone the power to bring their negative thinking around you. You know the old saying Misery loves company. Nothing is impossible, and you can let him know how you feel without being mean or nasty about it. just don't talk to him in anger but from the love you have for him being your father. forgive him of his harsh words, then let it go and move on.
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@34momma (13882)
• United States
20 May 08
there is nothing wrong with reaching out to your father. and no matter what he will always be your father. you can't change people who don't want to change. but you can change how you react to those people. you know who he is, and you know that he says those things to get you upset. now that you know that, then don't let them bother you.
Love him, forgive him, know that he does these things out of his own pain, and then let it go. it is not about you, it's about him. so don't take it personal.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 May 08
Thank you momma for your response =) I'm pretty good at giving others advice but not so good at taking my own. A parent is supposed to be a parent for life, you know? They aren't supposed to be ridiculous and petty and nasty to their kids, but I guess he is what he is. When I don't have to think about him, everything is great, i guess it was my mistake for trying to call my mom. LOL!
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
20 May 08
LOL oh hell how I can relate...My mother has ALWAYS hated me (even though it was her idea to adopt me but that could ahve been so she could keep my male gendered parental figure off HER back )..the older I got and the more I REFUSED to hide our families horrible secrets the more and more she hated me....I live in another country knwo and up until about 2 (almost) yrs ago that woman could set me off in the most dangerous of ways (dangerous in the sense that I became a danger to myself)....I realized that I needed to STOP giving her the misplaced loyalty that I had been and I needed SERIOUSLY START realizing that her and I will never have a relationship and that she will NEVER have remorse for what she did or allowed to be done to me since my childhood..
Toxic parents and/or family members really can destroy a person and yes misery loves company is a factor as is jealousy (thats the big one wiht my mother, she's jealous of me)
I can't tell you whether or not you should cut ties wiht him...thats something that only YOU can decide BUT I can give you some pointers..such as
- get a copy of Toxic Parents from your library
more than that though
- you need to sit down and REALLY DECIDE what YOU want for your children, yourself and your lives...are you really willing to have you and your kids be the martyrs for this man..OR do you think you have the inner strength (no offense meant its just that doing this is HARD) to call him out on his attitude and behaviour THEN depending on how it goes either work on the relationship OR walk away..
I have other thoughts on the subject but I'll leave you with that one for now because it really is a tricky and painful situation to be in ESPECIALLY when there are children involved
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 May 08
Heh. The interesting part of this WHOLE situation is that I am also adopted! I mean you think that a couple who wants kids badly enough to adopt really wants kids, right? In his case, wrong. I don't know what happened. My guess is that when I got old enough to form my own views and opinions and I no longer agreed with him about everything, he felt threatened and then spent all his time trying to control me and get me back to when i agreed.
I don't know why he is jealous and miserable, it does seem that's what it is. Since we do live in another state, I don't have to worry about daily interaction with him, the only sad part is that my daughter has no grandpas at all. I am caught between knowing for sure I have done all I can and the possibility that I am not giving him a chance, although I really think I have done all I can. I know I can't change another person but I want to make sure that I am truly not the one being nasty since two wrongs don't make a right. As a parent, I err on the side of NOT exposing my kids to people I feel are rotten influences, even if and maybe I should say especially if those people are family! I am one of a few who would rather choose a friend as a guardian in the event something happens to me than risk somebody in my extended family having the misplaced opportunity to raise or influence my daughter. I don't want her to be taught how to be intolerant or unaccepting in any way, as those things are the opposite of what I stand for.
@mikeysmom (2088)
• United States
20 May 08
oh, boy, family can really do a number on us. i fee for you. i have been through some real "stuff' with my family over the years and thankfully things are better now. two things have to happen for you to get passed this. one is you need to change the way this man has the ability to affect you. by that i mean, you must no longer take crap from him in any form. if you are on the phone and he talks nasty or says something mean and offensive tell him you will not allow him to talk to you that way. if he doesn't stop then hang up on him. if he calls back do not answer. you take control. if he lives far away then that is a good thing for you and your family. no one deserves to have things held over their heads for years and years. the past is the past. tell him to get over it and that you do not want to hear about it anymore. he sounds miserable if you will forgive me for saying so and i you know what they say. "misery loves company." you do not have to be a party to this treatment. the hard part is that you love him. am i right? why do you love him? because he is your biological father? has he shown you love in your life? did he nurture and take care of you? you nee to ask yourself why you put up with him. would you take this treatment from someone not related to you? probably not. so i think you have to take hold of the reigns and you make the rules and if he does not want to follow them then end the relationship. i hope i helped. these are the things i did and it made all the differenc for me.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
22 May 08
Oh, he seems very miserable to me. When I think about his life, it seems there are many things he wanted to do that he never pursued. He can't blame it on us because even when you have a family and kids, people still find ways to chase their dreams, know what I mean? I guess I feel like any normal person does about their parents - appreciative that I have them. However, you are also right that he doesn't actually deserve unconditional love and respect because of his actions. It's too bad, I would be willing because I was raised to treat my parents this way simply because they are my parents but parents are not supposed to abuse their kids either by refusing to accept them just the way they are. I guess I would not put up with this treatment from another person because my ex treated me that way - which is why he's my ex. Unfortunately you can't exactly divorce a parent or replace them with anybody. That would be a nice option. Thank you for your input =) It helps to know that I'm not alone.
@vicneedscoffee (1259)
• United States
20 May 08
I am the baby in my family and for a long time all my siblings and such felt the need to tell me every little thing they thought I did wrong. I finally got fed up and told them I have one life and I refuse to spend it feeling guilty or wading through drama. I have basically told my family this is my life and you have a visitor's pass to it. It can be revoked at any time. Since that time my life has been good. Family get-togethers are much easier on me. Some people are miserable in their own lives and misery loves company. His grudges are HIS problem. You can spend today feeling bad about it, but it will not change how he feels or you can live your life. You need to worry about you, not his views. Life is hard enough with toxic people causing extra drama.
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@lucy02 (5015)
• United States
20 May 08
This sounds very much like someone suffering from depression.
Could your mom convince him to get screened for depression? I would say to try to keep family contact minimal unless he does get help. The negativity, isolation, and lack of interest in things all together really sound like depression to me. He's got to be willing and want to get help though.
@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
21 May 08
that was really sad your own dad whose still holding a grudges on his biological daughter!!not a fatherly act i guess since im a mom too and whatever misgiving my children did especially my son...i still love them and forgive and forget about all those things..thats what family's are for...
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
3 Aug 08
I know exactly what you mean. I have such people in my family. Actually two of them are living in the same house as me. We made the huge mistake of buying our house together with my in laws.
It took me a long time, but I was able to learn how to live in the same house - different apartment - without allowing them to poison my life and my marriage.
I didn't completely write them off. I will still help them out if they need something, but I don't allow them to affect me and my life anymore. I'm done with feeling down and loose my self confidence. I don't stop chatting, I don't socialize with them, I don't even do small talk. If they need me, they can call me, if I am available and in a good mood, I might help.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
20 May 08
I think that toxic people in a family need to be avoided
at all costs. the harm they can do is so great and it
can go over many miles too. It is sad but so true.
Your precious family should come first and that is only
right. Your father needs to get over his negativity if
he wants to bond with you and your family. I do not have
anyone like this in my family but I would tend to stay
away from someone like that myself.