Which one of the two is better?
By dpk262006
@dpk262006 (58673)
Delhi, India
May 21, 2008 6:21am CST
I have a close friend. He stays in joint family with his brothers and their wives. One of his brother’s wife is highly educated (double post graduate) and is a teacher in a school. However, she neither has proper practical knowledge of cooking nor does she is rated as a good cook. She just manages her cooking and her husband does not appreciate or feel comfortable in taking food cooked by her. She is very careless and does not know how to manage household affairs effectively, she just manages the show. Also, she is very introvert and not very social, does not keep in touch with near and dear ones. On the other hand, my friend’s other brother’s wife is only a Graduate. She is a working lady, but she is an excellent cook and a perfect household manager. Everyone appreciates her cooking and enjoy food cooked by her. She knows how to manage household affairs effectively. She is very social and keeps in touch with every near and dear ones.
My question is who would you rate as the better one, the one who is highly educated but a poor household manager or the other one who is moderately educated but a perfect household manager?
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
21 May 08
Easy choice for me...the second one...moderately educated (I wouldn't call a graduate moderately educated...but in comparison to her co-sister she is) but she's able to manage so many things. Just proves that education isn't everything and doesn't equip one for living in society.
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@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
21 May 08
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
21 May 08
Basically Deepak, I feel it's not only household management and skills. The second lady seems to have more skills....and I feel that way because you have mentioned them. Education seems to be the only plus point of the first lady. NOw, I'm not sure if she's got other good qualities.
Now, I fall somewhere in between the two ladies...and not perfect in anything that you mentioned (especially right now my self esteem on the home management front is quite low). And I think I'm great as I am...lol
Another thing about education. Honestly, I think education is an asset...but the problem with the education in India is that it doesn't really equip a person for practical life. I'm not talking about professionals here. But most people looking for life partners look for graduates and post graduates...while most of them lack other more important skills and sometimes don't even know anything in the subject they have specialized in. I have a neighbour who is a post graduate in GEography and she didn't even know the 4 south indian states and what languages were spoken in each! That's basic primary education and you wonder how someone like that can be a PG in that area!
I'm not even a graduate! But I have so many skills that were utilized in various jobs and I was earning much more than any graduate or post graduate. And I also got to live my life and experience and learn other things...because I wasn't limited by it.
Coming back to the two people in your post, though people have said otherwise (going by the other responses), it is easier to be attracted and like a person who is social and outgoing than someone who is an introvert and one has to make an effort to get to know them. I'm not saying the introvert is bad....but you just won't have too much of an opinion about her. That's human psychology at work...that's all. Because it's all on the outside and that's all one can see and judge. Coming from a joint family, I've seen people of both categories and though we are like one big happy family, I know when comparison arises how people see others...especially in India.
Actually, I've got lots of things running across in my mind on this topic...lol
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@checapricorn (16060)
• United States
21 May 08
I guess, they are both good in their own way! The first one is a good partner as far as finances is concern, she can help a lot to make life comfortable and meet all the needs and wants if she is working and the second one is a good partner as far as plain housewife is concern. We all have ou flaws and we may excel in our area and fail the other aspect but as long as they maintained their family happy and intact, I can say, they are both doing their role great!
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@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
22 May 08
Thanks for sharing, but I am afraid, you did not see the post thoroughly, both are working ladies, (first) one is a teacher in a school and the other one works from 10.00 a.m. to 5.00 p.m. in a office. Please see the post and then you may like to amend your views....LOL!
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
12 Jun 08
Many thanks for your revised views, I also endorse your views.
@checapricorn (16060)
• United States
22 May 08
hahaha..thanks for that! I will choose the second one! I can say that she is a whole rounded partner! May not have that post degree but she both manage to work and help her partner and at the same time, she makes a home for the family by being a great wife and mother!
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
21 May 08
Nether one needs to be judge. They are different.
In the first case, why her husband is not taking care of house management and cooking?
Man can cook very well. They work equal hours at work and they both are doing very important job.
I can only talk form my perspective.
I have double post graduate degree. I was busy in school when other people learned how to cook.
I was also busy and very successful in sport.
In age of 27 I was able to accomplish more than many people during the lifetime.
My former husband was working less hours (and making less money), but was expecting me to cook and serve. I was taking care of my daughter most of the time. He didn’t even know how her school looks like.
He didn’t even know what is in refrigerator and he never went shopping with me.
You got the picture of well educated, working 24/7 woman, who didn’t have time to take longer shower than 2 minutes, or to enjoy the weekend (means Sunday only)
I didn’t have time to spend money I was making, but my husband did...
The story can go on and on. No wonder I am divorce....
My boyfriend is cooking in our relationship, he is doing shopping with me and he doesn’t let me to take shopping bags from car, because it is too heavy for me.
We clean together and we are both responsible for our house.
This is only fairness for me.
If someone is as staying at home mother, than maybe she can be responsible for house management and cooking meals for family.
If the man is selfish thinking about wife as a cooking and cleaning lady, than forget about good marriage.
Today’s woman is well educated, ambitious, and smart and is ready for partnership not slavery.
Again, I am not judging any woman, we are all different.
I am judging man as too selfish sometimes.
In this case, show me the love. Selfish man getting ready for woman as a server is only making woman tired and angry.
(I admire Grandpa Bob talking for his cooking and gardening....
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@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
22 May 08
I may add here Pola that first one's husband holds a senior posts in a compnay and comes at about 10.00 p.m. and she is a teacher and comes at 1.00 p.m. at home, she gets plenty of time to look after her house-hold affairs, but she does not. Also, her husband is a good cook and whenever possible, he does help her in cooking. She is neither social nor has inclination to do so. While the second is also full time working lady, but she manages her house-hold affairs very effectively (her husband also helps her) and she is social too. I agree with you that all are different.
Many Thanks for sharing your story with me, I did not know many things earlier, till you wrote about it, this time.![](/Content/images/emotes/thumbup.gif)
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@worthy (2413)
• India
21 May 08
in my opinion the second one,who is a graduate seems to be a comparatively balanced individual.we live in a society and we like people by their behaviour and the manner of their interaction.being a double post graduate has not much significant role to play if one is lacking in other traits,eg. cooking,pernality,interaction etc.this is my frank,honest and according to me , a fair opinion of mine.:)
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
22 May 08
I really appreciate your intelligent thoughts and really delighted to know your thinking that social behaviour is also very important when we live in a society. You would go a long way in your life, I believe.![](/Content/images/emotes/thumbup.gif)
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@apsara60 (6610)
• Israel
22 May 08
Hi deepak,
It is said that man live in house, but when a lady comes in she makes it home. I think from the time man and women where created, making house a comfortable cosy place for family has been a talent of women and she surely is perfectionist in this field. In olden days girls where not even given any high school education as it was taken granted that girl will get her education about how to look after the house and other household duties like cooking , washing , cleaning , decorating house etc from her house and for that she had no need go to high education. So education was never important for girls.( of-course I know that was wrong, but since your topic is about house care, I mentioned it.)
So coming back to your discussion, I am with moderately educated young lady, and respect her for being perfect household manager. Women plays very important role in making a good family and for that you have to be well educated with practical knowledge of household management and not just theory in the books.........Have a nice day.
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@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
24 May 08
So what I gather from your reply is that you are thinking on the same lines, on which I thought. It is always better to be practical and social in life. If you practicaly and can manage house hold affairs, nothing like that (even if you are less or say moderately edcuated). Managing the house (of course with the help of partner) is a positive trait and must be appreciated. Many thanks for your wonderful response.![](/Content/images/emotes/thumbup.gif)
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@I_LUV_U (2519)
• India
23 May 08
I would rate neither one as better than the other just because they have opposite personalities and priorities.
Introverts are not essentially apathetic people, although they might be asocial by nature. In the above family, Lady1's husband may not be as co-operative as Lady2's (you said he is not appreciative); it can also be that Lady1 has a more tighter, hectic schedule than Lady2 which keeps her from focussing on her family.
Another strange fact is Lady1 is a teacher, although she is a double post graduate. This (her qualification) shows that she wanted to pursue a different career and somehow circumstantially ended up being a teacher. This might even be the root cause for her worries, as we often learn how profoundly professional dissatisfactions can affect our personal life.
I just feel, rather than comparing his wife with another lady, if your friend's brother1 loves her unconditionally, tolerantly gulping down his spouse's shortcomings and letting not her morale slump, day in and day out, she might justify in her role as a household manager too.
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
24 May 08
Deepak,
this isn't tough for me. I would most definitely choose the latter. Education is very important in life for it teaches us the true implementation of values and learnings. That is what ideally education gives us. But it seems that the first lady is well educated but all for what! I have little problem with someone being less able in household chores. We must not rate and balance someone like that. She might not be good at house hold chores but what makes me sad is the fact that she fails to do justice to her relationships. A person is known by his values but here we see she lacks that. On the other hand the second lady has imbibed the true essence of education inspite of being having less degrees. I am sure she would have been good with her colleagues as well had she been a working lady. She wins my heart undoubtedly.
Thanks.
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
26 May 08
If she is rude then I object to that outright but being an introvert is not a offense. Degrees hardly matter with respect to values we possess or should possess. I feel sorry.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
24 May 08
I have another point to make.
After re reading your post I got that she is introvert and not social. But deepak, I do not think that is any fault. Tell me one thing, Is she rude or not well behaved? If so then I would have taken it but being an introvert doesn't mean that she is bad. They are most miserably mis understood and no one knows better than me. lol..
So that makes me change my view a bit. Being not perfect with household chores should not make one 'bad' in the true sense of the term. In all fairness, there are graver things on earth that should be attached to the 'bad' tag, I guess. This I have already mentioned that in my response.
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
24 May 08
To your second part first, the first lady is not at all social and she is rude also. Though I rate her as introvert.She does not know how to maintain a relationship. To me practicaly knowledge and being social and be a good manager is more important than mere getting higher and higher degrees.
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@subha12 (18441)
• India
13 Jun 08
i think this discussion can be seen from different ways. i can make my mind that i will protest the education and tell everything bad against the first one, or it can be seen in other ways. also i am not sure if the first one is too bad in all other. does she not having any other quality? in that case the second one is acceptable. But have seen many women both managing fronts very well.
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
13 Jun 08
Your reply is not clear, which of the two are you supporting or favouring, if you have to choose one only?
@anonymili (3138)
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13 Oct 08
I do not feel it's fair to rate people by their education or social skills pal... I have a friend who has a PhD and is not that great around the house - her husband is a doctor and he is more houseproud than she but no one holds it against her as she makes up for it in other areas, i.e. is a very affectionate and likeable person. On the other hand I know girls who have married a guy and come here to the UK from India, have a Bachelors degree, talk big about their social standing in India and can't even put on a sari or cook a meal. In your example, who are we to judge who is better? The daughter in law who is lacking in cooking or social skills could be that way because she has been brought up in a family where woman were not expected to be domesticated (it's supposed to be more equal these days anyway) and she might just be quite introvert - how do you know that she doesn't lie awake in bed every night crying because her sister-in-law is so popular and so good at household duties? I'm not saying that this is definitely the case. I have so many examples I can give you but mostly I can say that people are different - just because one wife is the perfect hostess who manages a career as well does not mean the other one should be expected to be the same. You say she's a school teacher, how do you know that she is not a brilliant teacher and is imparting knowledge to children in such a way that they will always remember her? You and others would not have seen that side of her, but the parents of the kids she teaches might be eternally grateful to her that she's giving their kids such a good start in life... You asked for frank and honest opinions my friend and I'm just giving you food for thought - there are always other sides to the story - her need to be socially accepted might not be as important to her as say her need to educate children and give them a good basis for their futures :)
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
13 Oct 08
You are right we are no one to judge anyone. Yet a question came in my mind - the crux of the issue was - Is not it important to be a good house hold manager and to get connected with your near and dear ones socially. I think the one who manages to get connected with her near and dear ones would be a bit better in comparison to the one, who is not very much interested in social links. Your reply is apt and very logical on the basis of facts furnsihed in the discussions. There are some hidden facts which I did not mention in the discussion due to some reasons. If I tell you those facts, I feel your opinion might change.
Nonetheless, many thanks for sharing your candid, fair and frank views with all of us. Full marks for your bold reply.![](/Content/images/emotes/thumbup.gif)
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@faith210 (11224)
• Philippines
21 May 08
Hi dpk262006! I think that the woman with moderate education but is a perfect household manager is the better one. Because both wives have husbands and having a family, women should know how to balance both her career and family life. The one with higher education lack the skills in being a good homemaker while the one who is with moderate education has her own career and at the same time manages her household perfectly. So, i think she has balanced her career life and her family life very good.
Take Care and God Bless! Happy Mylotting!
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@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
22 May 08
So you agree with me that the one who is more social and more skills is better. Thanks for your wonderful views.
Deepak
@bellaofchaos (11538)
• United States
2 Sep 08
OK here it is my honest opionin at 2am. I think they both excelle at certian aspects neither is better than the other and to compare them is like comparing apples and oranges. Some people are social others aren't, some are great cooks others aren't, some are intelligent book wise and knowledge wise and above average in that area some are not. Do you see what I'm saying while the first wife excelles in having knowledge and a career where she is good at her life experiences lead her to by shy and introverted and maybe not so much a great cook and maybe her family is the eh type when it comes to loved ones and friends. While wife two may have been educated she is not really book smart but great at cooking and handling everyday affairs and maybe her family was one of those that just kept really close. It takes all kinds to make the world go round.. None of what you said matters as they are not your wife. But here is what truly matters does each one of them love their husbands and have a good marriage. If yes then why judge either of them why make it a contest.
@sang2k2 (1833)
• India
1 Sep 08
As a women is always related to cooking, managing house and family in our country i think obviously the less educated one would be rated the most...as earning is one things which a woman does to either spend her time or support family and husband in financial matters as well.but its always said that cooking is sumthing which is manadatory for a woman to know and is must after getting married..kids and family is sumthing which is her responsibility which is nvr taught but it is learnt by oneself on its own....
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
2 Sep 08
So what I gather from your reply is that you are thinking on the same lines, on which I thought. It is always better to be practical and the one who is able to manage her house would prove to be a better partner. Many thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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@evansw (43)
• Indonesia
22 May 08
High education is something received by someone. Whether or not the person is able to put the education into useful practice is another.
Even greater person will be able to maximize on moderate education, yet create extraordinary value.
Thomas Alva Edison, Albert Einstein, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs are not highly-educated, yet we all know what values they've created and how they help shape the world.
BTW, do you need a doctorate degree to be a housewife???
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
22 May 08
You appear to have thinking like me and are agreeing with me. In nutshell practical things in life are equally important. Thanks for sharing.
@landi927 (657)
• China
21 May 08
i want to be a perfect household manager...actually, i think the moderately educated one is much better not only because she is a perfect household manager, but because she is very social~ in my eyss, a person who wants to be successful must have some friends who can help him to clear up some difficulty in his life~
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
22 May 08
So you agree with me that the one who is more social and more skills is better. Thanks for your wonderful views.
@rsa101 (38180)
• Philippines
23 May 08
Well I think they both have their own special skills and intellect to be proud of. They should never be compared with one another as one has special skills that the other does not have. What is important is that they are happy with what they are doing in life. For the teacher let her passion exude in what she is strong at her teaching skills it is a very noble job as he molds a lot of minds and most of us has passed thru our own teachers and that is exactly her. For the other one since she does not excel intelectually she is gifted as socially good and manages her role as wife which at that point is her best effort that is with her. Her role is also a noble as she is managing to be the best mother and a wife to her children and husband.
For me we should not discriminate women that are good in the house to be the better person. There are two sides of it and we should learn to accept the weaknesses and their strengths too.
@Sharon38 (1912)
• Jamaica
21 May 08
Well here in Jamaica she would have been labelled as a "hot girl". I understand from our lingua that a hot girl cannot cook, wash or clean due to the long nails and time spent at hairdresser and shopping for the latest style.
I can only use myself as an example because I am a country girl and had to learn to cook, wash and clean from an early age. I dont do much cooking now (only on Saturdays and Sundays) but in my younger years I had kitchen duty and had to do it well. There were times when I experimented with the meat and most of the times it turns out very well and the next my mother and step father laugh at me and show me where I went wrong. Maybe housewife number one did not have such a background as mine or maybe she did but did not practice the cooking as she should have. If she had even perfected one dish that she could cook very well I think her husband would have appreciated it and in Jamaica terms "she needs to read a cookbook". Housewife number 2 however is my choice - she is a good wife, mother and will be loved and appreciated by all. She loves herself and her family and is not afraid to show them that love and let others know. She is just like the virtuous woman described in Proverbs 31. DOnt you agree?
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
8 Oct 08
Thanks for your detailed explanation and narration. I am sorry, I somehow missed your response and could not see it earlier. Full marks to you for your fantastic reply.
@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
24 May 08
Hi deepak
its common situation in most of the houses, thats why if parents look for girls then they keep all these factors in mind so all have almost same participation and joint family can go on.
in above case, definetly the other one with graduate degree and best household will be preferable by all as its social ties and domestic responsibilties u have. if man cant find a proper food and maintained house than how can be he satisfied in Sub continent environment. But to take joint family, its important that other share work as well and develop strong bond between two of them that her lacking can be covered and all can stay happily
Take care
@kiran1978 (4134)
• Australia
21 May 08
Hello, I don't like to judge people as we are all unique individuals with our own special talents and qualities. I think it is great to have an education however I do not think that makes a person any better then the next just because they are more educated. Also some people are naturally more extraverted then others, sometimes that can be a positive and a negative thing. As some extraverted people like to be the centre of attention and not listen to others aswell. In regards to cooking and managing the house, well we are not all great chefs, lol. The husband should be happy with whatever cooking she does as she is his wife. (that is my opinion).
So overall I think there is no better wife, they both have their own positive qualities that they would bring into a marriage.
@POONCH101 (1)
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22 May 08
If somebody have have extra ordinary talent. He should have to utilize it on a better way.It is not perfect thing that who have a talent and utilizing his talent in good way.
Some people who are dul they have ability to convey his good opinions to others
@jessieBee (1046)
• Trinidad And Tobago
21 May 08
I would have to say the second woman is better. She has good social skills,she can cook properly, and can manage a household. I guess that's every woman dream, to be the best wife they can be. I know for one that's my dream, even though i haven't learn to fully cook as yet, but thank god i still have some time. Lol
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
8 Oct 08
Thanks for the second one's choice, I also hold the same view.
@maclanis (2406)
• Belgium
21 May 08
I think it's rather awful to rate someone in a way that you say that one is actually 'better' than the other... I don't think it is necessary that the woman is able to be a good cook. Why can't the husband cook if his wife isn't very good at it? And how would moderately educated make someone a little less good than someone who is highly educated? I think it's kind of cruel to just say that one woman is better than the other.
@dpk262006 (58673)
• Delhi, India
22 May 08
You have not read the enitre post, it appears, please see it again, I have not spoken about being a 'cook' only. I agree with you that her husband can cook, but for she is there, she is a teacher, she has plenty of time, once she reaches home at 1.00 p.m. and her husband is a senior officer in a compnay comes at 10.00 p.m. at night, almost every day.
Thanks for sharing.
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