Am I the only one who thinks it's disrespectful for a man to swear

@anawar (2404)
United States
May 21, 2008 7:09pm CST
in the presence of a woman? I know that in today's society, swearing is more widely tolerated. I've never met a man who isn't more than happy to refrain from using vulgar language if I ask him not to. What about everyone else? Do you think I'm a prude or unreasonable? Are you offended by foul language? One note, if I'm in a guy's territory, in a guy's world, I keep quiet. It's their turf. After being with me for awhile, they stop swearing anyway, without my asking. Some men still know how to treat a lady? Guys, what's your take? Ladies, are you offended?
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
22 May 08
Although I used to cuss like a sailor, I don't see why people need to do it so much. Words lose their power when they're not used correctly or timed right. In guys' territory, I don't expect anything to change but someone in my house or that's invited me somewhere should treat me with respect and that means having a little class, speaking like a gentleman. I'll act like a lady anyway, but if he doesn't follow my lead I'll cut the visit short or just tell him point blank that he's acting like an ignorant cretin.
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
Yea! That's telling 'em. Thank goodness its not just me.
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@wooitsmolly (3613)
• United States
22 May 08
It doesn't offend me at all. I don't believe men and women should be forced to act differently... (From your post, I doubt you swear, though.) I don't think it's unreasonable for you to not want a man to swear, mainly because I am not a man so I would never date you. If you asked me not to swear for some reason, though, I would be like dream on! I grew up around swearing, though. I still do not cuss in front of my parents... I just feel uncomfortable with it for some reason, even though they wouldn't care. When it comes to people I date, I would kind of be weirded out if they didn't swear.. okay maybe not, but if they asked me not to I would just let them know it wouldn't work out between us. I don't swear a ton, but it happens.
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
I get your point. I've known some women who are offended if they're not counted in on the swearing. I don't feel like I'm forcing anyone to do anything, but you're right. I am asking them to meet my standards. It depends on whether they think I'm worth it or not. Let me clear this up, I'm not talking about casual swear words, I'm talking about the down and dirty. I think when the swear word adds to the vehemence of the sentiment, it's funny and I like it. I don't like it when people have to use that one word in every sentence they speak. That's boring! By the way, I do swear. Usually only under my breath and in German.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
22 May 08
I don't think it is. I am not offended by foul language, but I use it. I get tickled by the guys at work who will say damn then apologize.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
22 May 08
I work in the office of a cold storage warehouse. The guys are just polite. Regardless of the environment they act like that. What I think is really funny is that it is okay for us to curse in front of them, but not them in front of us LOL Even the most professional offices I worked in involved cursing - not in front of customers of course - on a daily basis.
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
The poor guys. This is even funnier than before! Talk about double standards. Ha!
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
What is the guy to girl ratio? What kind of place do you work in? An office setting? In some jobs it's okay to swear. Because damn is such a common word now, it doesn't rattle me as much as the other swear words. It is comical that the guys apologize to you.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 May 08
I think it's disrespectful too. I don't know why. I guess it's okay when they are with the guys...though I don't see why they need to do it then either. But I'm not comfortable around someone who is swearing all the time.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 May 08
I've heard men swear in the local tongue...and since I grew up with boys who didn't swear, I always felt that men who did are uncultured. I think it's quite common in the present generation among the boys (some girls too) and have heard the kids in high school (at my son's school) swear. But I think these kids have come from the US and children who grew up here don't do it till they reach college and try to be part of the 'hep' crowd. But I've heard lots of college going boys use it when I am in malls with my kids. And I see that my husband swears in the local language when he is with his friends. He's careful not to do it when the kids are around....but you never know when he can slip. I wish he'd just stop.
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
Thanks for expanding on your comments. I thought maybe swearing was an American habit. That's sad that we are bringing this into your culture. I wonder what the swear words are in your local language and if they imply the same thing as ours? You don't have to answer. I'm curious, that's all. No offense meant. How would your husband react if you asked him to stop before the habit got out of control? It might be too hard for him if he listens to it all day. Do you think the other men might notice he stopped swearing and your husband couldn't be 'one of the men' any longer? Your request might be unreasonable. Maybe you already figured that out?
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
I don't think we need to ask why we don't like it. It's important to protect ourselves from things that offend us. How common is it, where you live, for people to swear?
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
22 May 08
Well I can't say anything about swearing but I am sharing something that was taught to me in my 8th grade.[You would find it very strange but this is what happens when habits are taught young. In my class, once my teacher said that we should never use the epithet 'shut up!' because it is considered UNLADYLIKE.I did not us this till I was 45+ and even after that I would have used it may be once or twice[that too in jest].There is something that prevents me from saying this [my teacher is not standing behind me now] and this is why I feel habits die hard. I cannot tolerate vulgar language, and so you are not the only one.I have joined your club now.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
22 May 08
The teacher was a nun and she was teaching English and that is when she said that this use is very inelegant and unladylike. I used to feel it was a big crime to say these words[that sort of intensity is not warranted I guess] but as I said earlier, we are taught when we are young and it stays with us for the rest of our lives.
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
Wow! I don't like to use the words 'shut up' either. I don't know where I picked that up. One day I heard a husband scream at his wife to 'shut up'. I was so astounded I had to turn my back so they wouldn't see my discomfort. What kind of teacher exposed you to the this suggestion? It's not really off topic if 'shut up' is a phrase that you don't like to use.
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• Lubbock, Texas
22 May 08
The phrase "shut up" is usually used in mentally abusive relationships by the abuser to let the mate know that they (the abused) have a valid point and the abuser doesn't want to hear it. Of course I didn't know this at the time that I was taught that "shut up" and "stupid" were words that absolutely would not be tolerated, any more than the swear words.
@kun2349 (23381)
• Singapore
22 May 08
I do use vulgarities and swearing as freely as i want whenever i'm with my guy frenz.. But however when i'm out with gals or in front of gals and kids, i will control myself.. I think it's just a kind of respect for them and basic manners to treat them.. As a guy, u wun want a gal to be swearing and cursing in front of us too.. And even if were to meet one, i will still control myself too..
@kun2349 (23381)
• Singapore
22 May 08
Wat i mean from the last comment is that, even if a gal can swear openly and freely in front of me, and though it's ok for me to do so in front of her, i wun do it too.. because in general she's still a gal/woman.. hehe
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
It's very polite when you control your words in front of women and kids. I know I would appreciate it. I got a bit confused with your last comment. I think you meant you expect the same respect from a girl_ and you're saying if you met a girl who swore, you would still control yourself? I would do the same. Thanks for the guys point of view. I never thought about a guy's reaction to a girl swearng.
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
I like your attitude. I'm getting the impression that men who don't live in America treat women with more respect than men who live here. Or, if a guy moved to America from another country, he holds onto his respect for women. I appreciate your caring, your humour and your respect.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
22 May 08
Swearing doesnt bother me..I swear like a drunken sailor in a wh0re house LOL Its actually my husband who is the NON-foulmouthed one and my bf since finding god has been refraining from using foul language as best as possible...Me..Pfft...If I feel the moment or mood calls for a long string of profanity I'm doing it UNLESS I'm around ppl that I need to really mind my mouth with (ei: elderly, small children etc etc)..
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
You're a very smart and funny lady! Is it hard to remember not to swear when it's inappropriate?
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@lucy02 (5015)
• United States
22 May 08
I would prefer it if they didn't swear in front of me. It is disrespectful. I especially hate it if I am with my elderly mom. I was in a restaurant once and seated by a young man who had had too much to drink and every other word was the "f" word and very loudly. I never returned to that place.
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
It amazes me how people swear in public places such as a restaurant. I think the manager of waitress could ask the person very quietly not to use those kind of words. Do you think that's possible, or do you think the restaurant could lose business? They lost your business by not doing anything. If I owned a restaurant, I'd be grateful to lose the business of swearing and rude people, but I would cherish your patronage at my restaurant. How very kind of you to take care of your mom.
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@agfarm (930)
• United States
22 May 08
This is a Fascinating Topic!!!!!!!! I am a Female whom uses bad language , not all of the time Mind you....But I have a short -fuse ( I'm still learning patience ) My professor is Teaching Me that Swearing Shows a Lack of Intelligence. I agree w/ him! I'm not un-intelligent so....why do I swear ? Furthermore.....Why have I swore without even acknowledging that I was swearing in the first place! Wasn't Bad Language Created for emphasis? Today we use Bad Language as if it is completely acceptable! Hey....guess what?............I AM.....................Learning!
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
A tricky point. It's a tough call to bring intelligence into this discussion. I think people might be offended. But I want to remind everyone that we are all entitled to express our own thoughts. No one is being judged. That being said, I think it's a valid opinion. I think people swear because it's a bad habit. It's so mainstream now in our society. Once you start noticing you're swearing, you'll correct yourself and soon those words will disappear from your speaking. I swore all the time when I was in my twenties and one day I thought 'wow, this really sounds bad using these words.' Right after that I started paying attention and stopped swearing. What course are you taking? I was wondering why a professor would educate his/her students in this area? I'm impressed. Pat yourself on your back for learning. Nice going.
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@jayman32 (267)
• Australia
22 May 08
hello, i think it comes down to what sort of manners the guy has & how much respect he has for women. i dont think your a prude or being unreasonable, i think you have a good approuch to being in a guy's world. decent men will always reframe from using vulgar language in front of lady's..
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@jayman32 (267)
• Australia
23 May 08
your welcome...
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
My point exactly. Thanks for helping me restore my faith in men.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
22 May 08
No, I totally agree with you. I do think, however, that there are so many women that swear nowadays that men don't think it's direspectful to use vulgar language in front of them.
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
You're right. And some women get offended if they're not included in the swearing. It's a way for them to feel like they are on solid ground_ equal with the guys. Does that make sense?
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@Emma_Wang (210)
• China
22 May 08
in my mind,there is no right word that whenther man or woman has the right .
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
Do you mean men and women both have the right to swear? I agree. It's okay if someone wants to swear, it's not comfortable for me to be around them. Did I understand you correctly?
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• Kenya
22 May 08
I'm a man and though I would not call you a prude I must say that I also know some women who swear. I believe swearing is offensive, whether you are a man or woman, or whether in the company of men or women, or even when you are alone. Personally I think swearing makes one unpleasant to be with and it will definately put your relationships with others in jeopardy. Okay, so some people say that letting off a few swear words does help in venting pent up frustration but, if you feel the need to swear with every sentence just because things are not going your way (which many men I know tend to do), then that's just not on. Before we let loose with all those swear words, we should first consider the people around us, and I don't just mean the women around us! I'm talking about the other men who are offended by this and the children around us who tend to quickly pick up these bad habits.
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
I wondered how many guys would consider me a prude? Thanks for understanding. Yes, it's true. Swearing is mainstream and women swear also. Can you explain why you think swearing puts a relationship in jeapordy? You expanded on this topic_ good job. I didn't think about another man being offended by other guys who were swearing. Other people talked about not exposing kids to these words. It's a valid point, and I'm pleased mylotters are picking up on that.
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• Kenya
22 May 08
Hi anawar, You ask how I think swearing jeopardizes relationships? Here's what I think. Whereas swearing might be considered mainstream in today's society it does jeopardize relationships in a number of ways, more so where those who do not condone it are concerned. Even those who do are affected by it especially when the swearing is misconstrued to be directed at them. It portrays a bad impression of you during those times when things just don't seem to go right (and we all have those days, don't we). You end up looking like someone who looses control of situations rather too easily and this erodes whatever respect people might have had of you. Whenever we use the "F" word or any other such epithet, we need only look at the people around us to see that the look we are getting is not one of admiration. People tend to be uncomfortable with the use of such cuss words and when it becomes habitual they don't want to deal with you and thus try to avoid you when they can. Equally the use of abrasive language (I never heard anyone use pleasant swear words) often turns what might have been engaging discussion or other activity into arguments, fights or contests of wits and this contributes to the decline of civility. Whereas it may be said that people swear mostly when they are angry or frustrated, I still believe there are other, more productive ways to express these emotions which would help us get along in a more pleasant manner with those around us. One might say that I want to live in Utopia but then again I believe there are other options.
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
Thank you for your excellent and succinct comments. I think people who read your post might start thinking about the way they talk to someone else. Not everyone sees it as degrading, but I agree with you. Maybe society will calm down and stop this endless pursuit of what they think they want. Maybe they'll start thinking about the things that matter, like relationships. If you live in Utopia, I do as well.
@deedles88 (297)
• Australia
22 May 08
I think swearing is alot more tolerated these days then it used to be. My partner has 2 brothers and all 3 boys swear, and I accept that. I dont mind that they do, because I occasionally bust out one or two words, but if they are swearing every 2nd word, I say something. There is no need to sound like a sailor. I feel more accepted if they are comfortable enough to swear in front of me.
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
Yes, swearing is more tolerated. Sometimes I'm passing by when my kids are watching one of those reality shows. Every other word is bleeped out. But that's what those shows are for. The confrontations are the show. I don't care. I think its dumb and boring. I'm not judging anyone, I just don't watch television. My kids are grown now and I don't care if they swear while they're talking. You're right about feeling more accepted. After they're with me for awhile though, I notice, without my saying a word, that they tone down their language. I think it's 'kinda sweet.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
22 May 08
I realize some of you may not know me that well yet. I'm the person that deleted two people from my friend list for swearing. I'm a lady and expect to be treated with respect and no swear words around me. My husband and daughter know that swearing around me is not fine. I respect others and don't think its asking to much in return. To my friend list, if you have a problem with this post or any other please delete me from your friend list. This is one of my high standards that I have in my house. I realize some people will say I'm asking to much now.
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
fishmomma_ say your piece freely. I'm not going to say you're asking for too much! We all have freedom of choice and those that don't like swearing can hang out with mylotters who agree with them. No one's feeling should be hurt. To each his own.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
22 May 08
I also think its rude and disrespectful for a man to swear in the presence of a woman even in todays let anything go culture.I do not think you are a prude or unreasonable as people who are educated should be able to be articulate without resorting to swear words, I am offened by vulgar language.
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
Very well spoken. I wonder if we're part of a dying breed?
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• Lubbock, Texas
22 May 08
I find this attitude waning with each generation. Women swear as much as men do, so fewer and fewer of the younger generation males refrain from swearing in front of a woman. My son-in-law told me once that, to him, the f word was just another word. One that you hear every day in almost every conversation you have. But, even though his mother cusses like a sailor, according to him, that word was one that made her very uncomfortable. I think he was letting me know that it might slip sometimes in my presence and wasn't meant as disrespectful. It was just part of his vocabulary. I find this very sad. I think that an intelligent mind could find so much more forceful adjectives to use!
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
beaddoodler_ Excellent point you made earlier about being in an abusive relationship when you the words 'shut up' are used. I wouldn't have thought of that. I hope a lot of girls find this comment and think about their relationships. It's easy to miss the signs of emotional abuse.
@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
I noticed the same thing. People put that word into almost every sentence! There are some adjectives falling by the wayside. You read into your son-in-laws comment, looking between the lines. When I was growing up, we learned that what was said meant something else. I don't think your situation is the same, I was wondering if your family often hides meanings in innocous sentences. For all my upbringing, I'm amazed I don't notice it anymore. I was expanding on this thought and realised it would be too far off topic. Okay bye.
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• Lubbock, Texas
22 May 08
I didn't grow up in a family that used innocuous wording to mean something else. I didn't encounter that until I married, very young I might add. As I got older, and began to really pay attention to how people behaved, I found that many people apologize in other ways than saying "I'm Sorry", and I have come to value those other ways because they're not just two words said out of habit. As for the "shut up" bit, yeah that was personal experience and many years before I realized the actual meaning behind it. I did try to teach my children not to say it because I always felt demeaned when it was said to me.
@sisterjinx (1135)
• United States
22 May 08
I've been around a lot of guys who will refrain from swearing because I am there. The reason I know is because if they slip up they apologize and tell me that they try not to swear in the presence of a lady. I always thank them and then kindly inform them that they do not need to do this because I probably swear worse than them. lol I think that it is very nice when a man is respectful in this way but for me I make sure they realize that it is not necesary for them to not be themselves. It doesn't offend me. I probably swear worse than most of them or at least within the same league. Although I do refrain from using fowl language when I'm around someone that I know it bothers or if I think it might bother them.
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
sister_ you are too funny. That's great you fit in with the rest of them. And, very considerate of you to take other people's feelings into account even when you don't have to. But that's part of who you are. Special.
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@Essie119 (673)
• Canada
22 May 08
I'm afraid that I find it offensive when anyone swears. I hate to hear men, women or children using profanity. There is no reason to resort to vulgarity to get a point across. I think that most people don't even think about what they are saying anymore.
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
22 May 08
It's true. Most people don't think about it anymore. I'm so shocked when I go out and I hear a mother swear at her child. Then, I almost fall over when the kid responds in kind!
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