I felt it happen when I became pregnant.

I thought I was doing what I was suppose to to stop these little Angels from being born, LMAO But I am a blond and oppses happen. the antibiotics I blame my doctor for, he never once told me they might render my birth control ineffective. And well Jake was a product of Dad having beenon the road for business and we were at a Christmas party, which I rather really enjoyed and came home and raped my husband then, having been hung over forgot to take the dang things... rotflmao.

Angel, my first was planned and second was a .. surprise, but i'm a quick learner!! i got my tubes tied! LOL.

So let me ask you. Do you enjoy surprises in general? Maybe you just like to be surprised. And scraped off the floor with a spatula, lol, darlin, good one. Sounds like a hell of a Christmas party and I'm talkin about the one AFTER the party. Those can just be the bessssst times, can't they? Wild abandon, just "give it to me!!!", and you ain't meaning later, either. Go give that kid a kiss for me, would you please? Really, go do it.

I knew it, and tried to ignore it! it wasn't a planned thing! I dunno if it was intuition or if it was paranoia nova, but i knew!!

Intuition, paranoia, the gift of sight, a woman keenly in touch with her body, call it what you will. But it's something that you certainly can't ignore when you feel it - as you well know. I can see it - trying to push that feeling away, nah, couldn't be true, but you know in your heart of hearts and your soul of souls that it IS true, there, a presence, a force. Sissy, this discussion has brought me closer to some of you, here in my heart where I hold you. Thank you for sharing with me and validating me. It means so much.

See? You knew, Sissy. You just knew, didn't you?

I'll be enjoying the sparklers on July 1st (Canada day of course :D ).

CG, I've never had anyone else tell me that they felt what I did. Now, however, I've had a couple of women tell me that they felt something similar, if not exactly what I felt. Very gratifying to hear. Thank you for your open mind and heart. And this year - light a sparkler for me, please, on the 4th of July....

Thanks Annie. My grandmother always said I was 'fey' Irish. For the longest time I thought that meant that one day I'd be kidnapped from my bed by fairies and leprechauns and forced to make gold coins for the pots at the end of rainbows for the rest of my life! LOL

I have a rather unconventional belief system nova, and so yes, I do believe it was an 'outer' awareness working too. Could be the pure Celt in me, I don't know. But I believe in, for want of a better word, Angels and forces in nature and the universe that are 'not dreamt of in our philosophy'. And the awareness of that, is a gift I think. It keeps my mind open and searching and my heart touched by things that most people can't even imagine. You have the same mind and heart nova - I can feel it. It's what drew me to you so hard and so quickly.

This isn't the first time you have just 'known' something. You seem to make a habit of it, now that I think about it. I think you have a touch of 'the gift'. You really do 'amaze' me.

What a day that must have been, Ellie! Oh sh*t, that means it must be my husband's, ha! So, did you stay apart after that? I would assume you must have, honestly, and I'm so sure you're the happier for it. It's odd, how we can so keenly feel what's happening within our bodies. Funny, I've been told in no uncertain terms here that the conception did not take place at that moment, but whether or not that's true doesn't matter in the slightest. I knew what was happening, if not what had already happened. It wasn't a knowledge I wanted. But it was there and it couldn't have been clearer if it was written on a huge board in front of me. Thanks, Ellie, for sharing your story with me. This is an immensely personal thing for me and having you here is comforting. Thank you.

I agree absolutely, and thank you Ellie - it doesn't matter at all what anyone else has to say about it - I knew what I knew. Their facts don't change my reality. So after getting rather angry with one, I think I've got an easier attitude about it now. Let's see if that continues......

Hi Nova, no I never went back he was too controlling and I am much happier. It doesn't matter what anyone says on this one Nova, YOU knew, and thats what matters just like Mikeysmum had the dream that night and she knew. Ellie :D

I understand how it could be difficult to believe, but it was not a figment of anything, not illusionary, not imaginary. It was real. And yes, the memory is still very fresh, something that will always be with me.

oh , i am sorry if i have hurt you in anyway but i never intended it to be that way rather i feel it is difficult to believe .at the same time i admire the depth of your feelings and even after passage of t.i.m.e long enough you have cherished your feelings and explained and put forth and shared with us all.shere appreciation.........

Kushank, you didn't hurt me, but I so appreciate your sweet words about it, thank you very much. You appear to have a lot of kindness in you - it's evident here in your comment. Thank you again.

Nova honey - why is it that I always get a warm glow when I speak to you - even though I know that there is sadness tinging things! i am sorry if I am wrong here but I just cannot help think there is and I probably shouldn't have said anything so I will shut up on that bit now! I have given Niamh her hug and kiss from you earlier and she was very intrigued and wanted to see your avatar! She send hugs back - only Mom and occasionally dad and her big brother get kisses I am afraid! I am glad that you can feel what I am trying to put across - as I do write from the heart , the only way to go! As for the other babies , they are little angels and you know whilst it was obviously sad when I lost them I was never overly distressed - I knew they had gone to heaven with my mum and she could spend all her time with them as I knew she was devestated to have to leave me when I was a baby! That made things a lot easier for me! I don't know why sweety but I want to tell you that everything is okay and that you aren't to be so worried! I know this sounds like nonsense and I am not sure what it is all about I just know I have to tell you that - I hope that you don't think I have lost the plot! Hugs and love xxxxx

Mummy, I have no doubt that what you experienced was every bit as strong as what I did, if not stronger, frankly. I say this for reasons I don't particularly want to go into, but anyway. I can't tell you how sorry I am that you lost your baby, it breaks my heart. How wonderful it is that you were blessed with the children you have now. Do me a favor, will you? Go give Niamh a kiss and tell her it's from me, one of her cyber-aunts, and that I love her. She won't understand, but that's ok. You will. And, mum, when I think about it, I'm so not surprised that you felt what you did. You're like me, I think, in that what you feel is felt so deeply and when you write, when you answer these things, you transmit some of that feeling through your words. I feel it all the time from you. It's very soothing, too. A little 'love vapor' floating around my head. Thank you. xxxxx

You haven't lost the plot at all, mum. There's sadness, and regret, and resignation, and faith too, faith that things work out the way they're supposed to. There's also a lot of time gone between and that's the only real healer - well, nothing gets healed, but things get easier to deal with, the sharp edges dull, and that's good. Anyway, I think we have a mutual admiration society started here. I'm very gratified when you say you get a warm glow when we talk, because I do too, very much so. You and I have a connection, period. It's sort of like a bit of an invisible thread, you know? running between us. And I guess that in our case, the plot just thickens and gets richer, but never, never lost. XXX

Ok, it takes 7 days, but that doesn't discount the fact that no matter how long it takes, sometimes we know when it takes. Before it takes. I have no way to explain what I knew. But I knew, and I knew at that very moment. What was started then was what I felt, I guess. So maybe it took whatever amount of time to fully 'conceptualize', as it were, but I felt it before that. I felt it at that precise moment. Maybe it was some sort of premonition? No, that's not right. Not premonition. Doesn't matter - whatever it was, call it what you will, nothing will change what I felt and what I knew. But thank you, makingpots, for what you've said here, I so appreciate it. And the way you've said it is loving and kind and I thank you again for it.

I think maybe for part of it she was in denial, but I do think she really didn't know until she was very far along - and no one else knew either! As to wanting to know for myself, I actually don't plan on having children. Maybe my thoughts will change in the future, but I can't forsee that happening, as I have many reasons for not wanting children, and none of the circumstances influencing that decision are likely to change.

I understand, kris, about your not wanting to have children, believe me. It may never change, and there's no reason to try to talk yourself out of your decision and certainly no reason for anyone else to. It's no one's business but your own. I didn't want children either. I never did, till I got into my 40s, and that was more of a romantic notion than anything else, which I recognized for what it was, thank goodness. I love kids, and I adore being around them, but I don't need to have my own. I've even worked with kids for the last 8-9 years. And now I'm in my 50s and I'm, for the most part, completely content about the decisions I've made in my life regarding children. I wish you success and happiness in your life, whatever direction you decide to take.

Wow, 7 months!? That's pretty amazing - I wonder if she was just in massive denial. Poor thing - I hope she's ok. If you want it to happen, kris, I hope that it does for you. So, when your mother and your sister told you about that, how did it make you feel? I think it must have given you a sense of wonder. And it also let you know that there are things like that that can happen, which is a most positive thing. Thank you for answering here, and sharing your experiences and thoughts. Have fun out there.

OMG Cyn, I cannot catch my breath....Oh my sides hurt, it had to be that butt flying in the air that made the contact with sperm and egg! Too too funny Sugar, Thanks for that story...

I'm rather surprised at myself for posting this in the first place, Cynical, to be honest. I'm a bit concerned about what this might get into, ya know? But - now, back to it - you felt it too. It's the oddest thing, isn't it? So did I - and I was on top too, and still on top when the knowledge happened, when I 'felt' it, when it became abundantly clear that I was indeed pregnant. I was terrified. But that's another story. Your story about propelling yourself off of the bed, and onto your head is hilarious. Your poor grandpa, what a sight he must have seen, with your butt up in the air, and whatshisname in a stupor on the bed, omg, I can just imagine. And yes, the little avatar...You knew she was a she. No matter what his history of offspring was, you just knew. That I believe with all my heart. But see, you're so in tune with your body, with your insides, just like I am, I'm not at all surprised that you did know. And I wouldn't be surprised about anything you might discern through your own personal communication with your inner self, your physical, and your spiritual self. And about that family tree thing? Well, darlin, it certainly is possible that we have a bloodline in common. It might not be that it's in this life, but it's entirely too possible that we were blood related in another life and will be again too. There are people in our lives who we have in all of our lives - we don't always know it though. But sometimes, just sometimes, if we're very lucky to have been given the gift of personal knowledge, we can recognize each other again. I think we might have done that here, Cyn, here in this life. Like you said, it's eerie. But very nicely eerie.

Cyn, you are hilarious! What a wonderfully hilarious predicament. Sorry, just too funny. Your avatar really is a miracle.

Ldyjarhead, is that what you've told all the women into whom you've deposited your sperm?

I stood over her Tessah. She has made a couple of the calls. But she needs more pestering.

come monday morning, i shall commence further pesterng until she makes the calls

btw.. did you make that freakin call this morning? i sent you a tell in msn..but you were set to "away" ..;shakes finger atcha;..

Mikeysmom, I so deeply thank you for this response. You have validated me, you have lifted me, and you have gratified me with it. I feel your love, for your son, your gift, your precious joy. And I also feel your love just for the sake of it, just for the reality of it and I thank you for sharing it with me here. Bless your heart. That sounds a bit trite, but it's not. Not even. If I had the words I would type them. I just hope you feel what I'm trying so lamely to say to you.

Thank you for sharing that, jdyrj - we are among the few, I think. It seems that most women don't experience what we have.

yes! I have been impregnanted 6 times and i felt what your saying with each one. This feeling came any where form minutes after to before waking in the morning. Most beautiful feeling ever.

Have u ever had dreams that have happen? Or when something happen you feel like you seen it before?

Hi nova, your're sweet. I just blew that kiss and told her and she paused long enough to give me "that look"....another one who thinks i'm nuts.

Sid, you may be nuts, darlin, but you knew what you knew, didn't you? Thank you. I needed that smile you gave me. Hey, next time that 4th kid comes by you, blow her a kiss from me please. And then, feel it coming back to you. From me.

It's a reflect. Mentally, he knows better than us.

aowaow, yes, we feel some things more deeply than men do, certainly when it comes to our own bodies. I think women are so much more in tune with their bodies. Maybe we just pay more attention to what we're feeling, I don't know. When we feel something, we want to look at it, see what it is, and then decide what to do with it. Does that make any sense? You probably know what I'm trying to convey here. Thank you for being here, aowaow. Great name, btw.

Yes, Byola, sometimes we just know things that it doesn't seem possible to know. You did. I'm happy it turned out that way for you. And thank you very much for your comment here. I appreciate your openness and the story you shared with me.

yes i just knew i dont know how but i was just convinced and it did happen

Aww, p1ke, thank you for this magic you've given me too, baby. You know me - you know how I feel things, you know that I DO feel things. The biology doesn't come into it, not into this. Because no matter what is happening biologically, or the time frame involved, which is what everyone seems to be so stuck on, something IS happening, on it's way, in the process, and I just happened to be sensitive or intuitive or psychic enough to feel it, to sense it, to intuit it. This seems to make some people a bit angry. That's their problem. My life is rich with magic and wonder, always has been, and I'm the better for it. They can disbelieve, laugh at me, write me off as daft. It doesn't and won't change my reality. I'm kind of surprised to see you here, darlin, but very happy that you are. Thank you so much for that beautiful compliment. Kisses to you.

You're the funnest fish on the planet, p1key. Yes, I know you and women's things, sure enough. And wow, I've gotten way more responses than I expected here on this thing. And what's so cool is that most of them have been positive and friendly and accepting and there have been several other women who've shared their own experiences with this feeling, this intuition. Your own 45th response just adds to the positivity. And you know I love having you.

You know me and women's things Nova. LOL. Anyway, I thought after 44 comments you wouldn't mind one from the fish. We lay eggs you know and the insemination bit happens afterwards. Not as much fun as you humans.

Catching them both around 1 month is pretty soon, don't you think? It doesn't matter that you didn't feel what I did. I'm sure there are things within yourself that I'll never know, that I'll never feel. Not in the same way. You have your child and you're happy. What a gift that is. Thank you for coming into my discussion, Shawchert - you're most entirely welcome here. And welcome to Mylot. I hope you have as much of a blast as I do. There are some beautiful people here - I know you're finding that out for yourself - you're not a complete newbie. Keep typing, darlin.

i think it was easy to find outbecause my little friend has never been late before, till i had my son. :) and thank you for the warm welcome I'm no newbie though, i've been posting on all sorts of message boards since i was 14, so I'm quite at home in this place :D

icecandies, welcome to Mylot! Congratulations on your pregancy, darlin. I can hear how excited both you and your husband are and I'm so very happy for you. You've got a lot of wonderful years ahead of you and I hope you have many, many blessings.

Thank you so much for the warm welcome. May you have so much blessings coming too.

...and i'll tell you once it's confirmed that we're going to have a baby boy..sorry, i'm just excited to tell the whole world..