satanism

@LaHire (164)
India
May 24, 2008 1:34pm CST
im a satanist... and i want everyone to know what a satanist is... its not a devil worshipper... as it is mostly misconcepted!! a satanist doesn't worship anyone... im a god for me... there is no satan and no god... there is no hell no heaven... there aren't any sin... all this is just to make money... we are rational beings!! read more at my blog http://satanic-bible-for-lyf.blogspot.com
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@inked4life (4224)
• United States
25 May 08
When I was younger and started questioning spirituality etc. I took the time to read both the Bible and the Satanic Bible. Satanism, as I read it is much more about empowering yourself rather than a book of devil worship, which is what I imagine most people believe it to be. Neither of the 2 books inspired me at all and I chose to follow the atheist path that I am now on.
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• South Africa
24 May 08
I agree with a lot of what Satanism has to say but you would be surprised how many devout religious people can not conceptualize that it has nothing to do with worshiping Satan. In other words, enjoy your flames from people that don't know what is going on. By the way, try using capital letters and full stops instead of stream of ellipses. It will make you seem more sure of what you are saying. The way you have it now makes it seem like you don't really know where you are going with the topic. And for the crowd which will invariably respond with a variation of "ZOMG, YOU WORSHIP SATAN! BURN IN HELL!" Satanism is not devil worship. Satanism follows some of the ideals represented by the Satanic figure present in most religions (not only Christianity) and mainly just boils down to independence. Please do some research before condemning things that you don't understand.
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@swirlz (3136)
• Philippines
25 May 08
You're right shard. If you want to be respected for what you believe in, then respect others for what they believe in. How would you feel if I call you lame and crazy because you announced yourself a satanist?
25 May 08
You know, continuing to call other people's faiths lame and weak is not going to win you any brownie points. You believe God does not exist, some people believe He exists... and there's a whole plethora of other spiritual paths out there. Live and let live sir, and respect other's beliefs if you have no proof to the contrary.
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@LaHire (164)
• India
25 May 08
well for all the ones who say god exists.... well everything in the world has scientific reasons.... some have been given some remain.... you just cannot give credits to a person for it!! before the gods used to blow the winds... now the air pressure does :P plus the religion is satanism... simply because we oppose the lame theories of other religion... theories of heaven and hell and all!! also the term satan means a lot to us... it represents all the satanic believes!!
• United States
25 May 08
I am not a satanist but I am agnostic.. I do not care what people believe in god hell ect ect... As long as they do not toss it on to me.... WHO CARES!!! I hate when I am out minding myself not bothering any one and some one no a few comes up to me and say's we will pray for you and all this other crap.. because I was wearing a MManson shirt uuuggghhhh I hate that. I do not live my life day to day trying to get into "heaven" I live my life and do what I want to do. I live to live in the moment.. I live for myself not for the church!!!
• United States
25 May 08
ah yes the pentagram I use to wear a necklace with one and got looks all the time.. you are in India yes?? that is what your profile say's out of curiosity do the people there view the same on people like us with their religion see I am american.. and if you do not conform you are looked down at.. I am a goth and like many goth's get a bad rap... We just see thing for how they are and all that.. We are judged by how we look.. by yet the same people who say god is the only one who can judge then they judge people like us wtf...
@LaHire (164)
• India
25 May 08
yeah thats what it is all about... i made a pentagram sign on my T... well im fond of painting my own Tees so...!! and there were ppl staring at me... they were giving strange looks....!! well im all with science...!! if i can't sense anything its not there for me.... and sorry to say i didn't sense god with any of my sense organ!!
@LaHire (164)
• India
25 May 08
ugg... its worse in india man!! mothers force there children to pray.... ppl. here wan't reservations in examinations and public services on the bases of caste and religion!! goth is totally messed up here... ppl. wear k0rn's Tees and even iron maiden's... about 50% of em haven't heard of em.... rest say we are satanic... and the proof is every morning they abuse gods :P the whole concept of metal, rock , goth is shaken here!! and same for me dude... i just life for myself...!!
@Galena (9110)
25 May 08
good luck. a lot of people won't accept dialogue on this. I have had the pleasure of a small number of Satanists as friends, and had interesting discussions on what they beleive. my thinking is that the beleifs are a little selfish in nature, but the people beleiving it are no more selfish than anyone else. in fact, a lot of it makes a great deal of sense. I just think the naming of it is more than a little childish. a bit attention seeking. but then those who follow it now never decided what it should be called, so that is a point now irrelevant.
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@Galena (9110)
25 May 08
see, to me, nature itself is deity. that spark that causes cells to divide, causes things to reproduce and grow and prosper. yes, it's biology, chemistry, physics. but it happens. that drive is God. that energy, that natural force, is deity. who needs more than that as a higher force. nature and science.
• Philippines
25 May 08
I agree with Galena.... Besides most of the things in this earth are actually difficult to understand and some people just resort to think about Satanism as means to escape things. Moreover, as what we know morals (what is good and bad) is determined by people. So if people determine what is good and bad how do we now know what is really good or bad when one person may say that that thing is good and another one says its bad. See, if there was no God, a God who sets what is good and bad, a God who is loving and kind, then there would be no us. Also, when you look at the skies, you will realize that you are just part of a larger crowd. The sun and the moon and the earth will just fade away some day. If there is an end then surely there is a beginning. I wouldn't want to think that I was created out of big bang and realize that I was created out of chance. I would want to think that I was created not out of chance and I was created by someone. Satanists do not believe in God and they are created out of chances. Chances are they have no idea of what life is and what they are doing here on earth. Peace!
@LaHire (164)
• India
25 May 08
@^ well life is a biological process!! you can't say that you are alive because god gave you birth... you were developed... by multiplication of cells!! thats what i was trying to say.... you cannot just keep giving credits to the facts not explained by science yet to GOD!! as i said before... initially gods blew the winds later air pressure did!!
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
25 May 08
I think it sounds like naturalism rather than satanism. The things you mention are not very similar to what the lord of satanic people Lavey says.
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
28 May 08
actually christians and muslims believe in same god but the way they worship are different. In islamic historical sources, it mentions adam,eva, and all others including jesus. it mentions jesus and mehdi will come back in the last day of earth. it is same in chritianity and islam. islam even mentions the history of tevrat and the prophet musa. (the prophet of jewish people). This is why in islam we believe the former prophets also existed but Mohammad (sav)was the last of them. The people in older religions just don't accept Mohammad as a prophet. This is the difference. but actually the god is one in all these religions.
@LaHire (164)
• India
28 May 08
dude that is because... islam was formed from jewism... and so was christianity... it was after the down fall of jesus.. that both of em were formed!! the truth as told be a Christian to me was... that jesus refused to over throw the caesar at that time... and all the supporters were thinking he would do it... when he said it clearly that nothing like this is going to happen... then he lost supporters... coz they were thinking of getting good position when jesus becomes the caesar... so many of em went back... well others became rebels called as jihadis... and formed islam... under phropet!! while on the other hand jesus had a down fall and caesar hanged him!! so thats y you can relate these 2... but not all!! if it would have been same... then there would have been no problems!! the muslims throw stones at haj... saying that it is devil... well actually in hinduism that is lord shiv... who crys that if only one hindu could bath me with ganga water ( religious water from river ganga, india) then he would come alive.... and the muslims don't allow that.... issues like these have lead to religious disharmony... and thats what i wanted to say !!
@LaHire (164)
• India
28 May 08
actually its not.... it says not to hurt some1... but if he hurts you don't stand back!! and for the commanding thing.... the division of god over religion... i mean hindus/muslim/christians all have different gods... and they all just keep fighting for who's the best!! and its termed as survival of the fittest... darwin has said only the fit should survive... thats natural development!! they religions has just grouped ppl. now they fight as groups..!!
@cream97 (29086)
• United States
24 May 08
My dear friend, when you die, God is going to ask you this question.. Please give him an accurate answer when you do...
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@LaHire (164)
• India
24 May 08
well all i have to say is.... if god exists proof he does!! and even if he exists what good is he doing.... you mean to say hes sitting somewhere where you don't know!! then he can't help you... but when you die he asks you... lols!! sir the only thing real in the life is you... you govern it and no one else!!
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
24 May 08
Lahire, God does exist. How do you live without the existence of God. You cannot. He give each and everyone the breathe of life. I hope one day you will come to realize that there is a God
@Henjin (81)
• South Africa
24 May 08
kerriannc, you are a dangerous person, no one must ever deal in absolutes as it causes narrow-mindedness and intolerance
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
27 May 08
Actually, in a way, Satanist DO worship someone, they worship THEMSELVES...that being said though, you are right that Satanism is VERY misunderstood...I actually started a thread about it a long time ago here and ppl really dont "get it"..they hear any word with "satan" in it and they jump on the "ooh thats bad" bandwagon....Reality is though many if not ALL of us already live and follow many of the 11 Satanic Rules though I doubt ppl would acknowledge it let alone admit to it LOL
@LaHire (164)
• India
28 May 08
but satanism... just doesn't tell to blindly follow it.... if i don't like something i won't follow it simple as that :P
• United States
25 May 08
You are going to get a lot of crazy comments from some crazy people eventually. At least you were brave enough to step forward and let people know that satanism is not what people think it is. Just like a lot of other religions aren't what people think they are. People like living in their blind little bubbles pretending that everything they've been told is right so they can continue hating everyone that isn't like them. People need to know however that anyone that kills and does evil and claims that they are satanist really aren't!
@LaHire (164)
• India
25 May 08
yup thats what i mean... why should ppl like us suffer man.... we have to live in small communities... ppl think we are maniacs... they need to know the truth... ppl. believe in astrology... but they don't know it is based on theory of time being relative... everything is pre destined.... and if everything is pre destined... how can one change it :P a satanist knows the lameness lies in the seeds of it!! they don't apply logic....
24 May 08
I can see so many flames coming your way. Good luck! My partner actually met the head of the Satanist church once, being a crazed little occultist he walks in those circles. He asked why they called themselves Satanists and was amused by the answer; it separates the idiots that want to worship Satan from the people that actual understand the message of Satanism. Anyway, again... good luck!
@agfarm (930)
• United States
25 May 08
This is Interesting Information....I love learning about all people's Beliefs and Religions....That's what Makes Mylot such a Great place. There is a Vast amount of Information to Be learned here. I don't know much about this.......I firmly all people regardless of their Background and Ethnicity........See God everyday when we look into each other's eyes. ' Must be the CHEROKEE..................in me. I AM.....................CONSTANTINE! G'Day!
• United States
26 May 08
hiya~ one question lahire, if u don't believe in God or satan....(well 2 questions) 1. how can u call urself a 'satanist' (which implies a beliefe in satan) and 2. wouldn't that make u an 'atheist'? ~j
26 May 08
Spiritual Beings... - Don't have a religion, have a spirituality.
You can be very spiritual without believing in any gods, or worshipping any gods. Many branches of Buddhism believe in no gods, that doesn't make it any less a spiritual path. You know how the saying goes...
• United States
27 May 08
lahire~ i apologize, i mis read ur stance on satan....thank you for politley clarifiying (many ppl on topics of religion and politics turn away from politness) as to the second part....i've always been taught that an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a God (deity) of any sort....regardless of spirituality....but like i said...that is just as i understand it.... ~j
@LaHire (164)
• India
26 May 08
i said i believe in satan but not as a deity..!! satan for a satanist... represents the path of life!! the answer to second is.... atheism doesn't believe in spirituality... satanism does!!
• United States
24 May 08
Well, if it works for you and you aren't harming anyone..I am not one to judge? But how can yo be a Satanist if there's no Satan? (Ever consider that one?) Juts sound like ..I don't know..an atheist, maybe? that's cool. eevryone is free to identify as they iwsh, right? But..just a thought I happened to have. I think until you think things through a bit more..maybe I'll hold off on the blog. But..whatever does it for you, OK? (Aliester Crowley was a Satanist and I hear he definitely did believe in Satan.-You might want to read up?)
@Galena (9110)
25 May 08
Aleister Crowley was involved in various ritual Magic groups, such as the Golden Dawn. he was also a notorious self publicist, and would love it if he knew that people beleived half the stuff he said. as for the terminology of Satanism, I think to begin with, it was probably attention seeking. rather childish really, but that doesn't take away from Satanism as a spiritual path. those I have met that follow it, are, on the whole, decent, spiritually aware people. some of the tenets are a little indicitive of selfishness, but those that follow it don't seem to be any more selfish than the next person.
24 May 08
Aliester Crowley a Satanist and believed in Satan... *totters off to ask her partner... he's done the odd lecture in this stuff* No, he wasn't a Satanist, nor did he believe in the Christian Satan. Satanists follow the ideals that Satan represents; to rule one's self, basically. As far as I understand it, anyway. I'm no expert.
• Philippines
25 May 08
then your not a satanist then.. you'll be called an atheist.. ^^
@Galena (9110)
25 May 08
sort of. Satanism is a more spiritual form of atheism. it has no Gods, that's true. but it's still quite a spiritual path.
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@plantx (2)
• United States
25 May 08
i thought i read somewhere where satanists believe in god however they do not see him as the supreme being. also, the reason they were called satanists is because they saw Satan as equal to God in power. i'm not a satanist but i used to look into the satanist religion.
@LaHire (164)
• India
25 May 08
thats what i wan't to clear man.... all most 99% of world considers us as devil worshipers!! which we aren't!!
@poshboy (312)
• Indonesia
26 May 08
don't u think it's called Atheism when u believe in no GOD? :D i just want to comment about there aren't any sin, if u really think that there's no sin, i just want to ask u something :) the very first time you cheat on your exam or on something else, what do you feel? wasn't your heart beating so hard? :p it's because u were afraid right? your conscience know that cheating is not right, so can we call it something that doing is not right as sin? :D
• United States
27 May 08
hey all~ sin is an archery term meaning 'to miss the mark' in Christendom it the 'mark' is what is considered to be 'right or proper' 'moral or ethical' for someone who does not believe in absolutes, for humanists and for those who are atheists, sin would be to miss the mark that 'they themselves' set. what is sin to one man (or woman) may not be to another.....while i am a Christian and i do believe in absolutes, i have to say that to some.....there is no sin.....yet to others that very idea is a sin in and of itself.....(i know it sounds contradictory but if u think on that for some time you will see that i don't deny my belief in absolute or what sin is, i just acknowledge that some don't adhere to that and that i believe that everyone is free to make that choice) ~j
@LaHire (164)
• India
28 May 08
@poshboy even i don't feel the guilt in cheating the exam... :P plus y did pope benidict made owning riches a sin... does that make you feel guilty... :O well if that old man would have asked donations.... a billion ppl. would have done that!! and even more he himself owns so many jewels and jems... enough to feed a entire nation for an yr.... does he himself want to go to so called hell :P plus the biggest flaw in the whole theory is confession :P a person commits a sin... he goes and confesses... again he commits the same sin and confesses!! for a satanist... not believing in oneself is a sin... if at any point i got a prayer on my mind thats a sin... but neither it leads you to hell... infact i take it as a mistake and try not to do it again :P which theory is better :P
@poshboy (312)
• Indonesia
27 May 08
i don't say that getting drunk is sin. but the effect makes people unconscious with what they do/say which will mostly do something not right, like fighting, or stir up trouble :) when people do something not right than we can say that they're breaking the law & they'll get punished, sin also will get punished, so just say that doing something not right is as the same as sinning right since both will get punished? :)
@djmarion (4898)
• Philippines
25 May 08
we have the right to choose whatever religion we want to choose and to decide whether or not we want to worship God or somebody else, its your choice and we have no right to judge you or criticize your way of thinking, i bet you'll get a lot of negative remarks here so hold on.. rest assure that no matter how i disagree with your way of thinking i will not rate you negative. keep on posting.!
@mrsjbelle (1640)
• United States
25 May 08
All I have to say is to each his own. If thats what you choose to believe so be it. I am a Christian and believe in God and do not believe in forcing my views on someone else. Have a great day.
@Insung001 (740)
• Philippines
24 May 08
Please pardon my asking but I'm a bit confused. You said there is no satan and no god.. there is no satan... and yet you call yourself a satanist? I thought you said there is no satan? what's your basis then of being a satanist? believer of something(or someone)that you said doesn't exists? It seems contradicting to me.
@LaHire (164)
• India
25 May 08
as i said below.... the term satan has different meanings... for christians a satan is a being... for a satanist... it is a term that represents qualities of a satanist... it represents absistance, kindness to those who deserve while vengeance against the ppl who envy us!! and many more philosophies!! read satanic bible by anton laVey!!
@rane0328 (129)
• United States
28 Jun 08
hahaha cute... good luck with that... hope it works out for u. its funny their is no got and yet the bible has predicted all the stuff that has happened.. some that are not even controled men... so how would they use it to make money??