California Future Changes
By Fishmomma
@Fishmomma (11377)
United States
May 30, 2008 8:01pm CST
There are three future changes to California that I would like to know if you think they should be everywhere?Restaurant chains with 15 or more places have to list their fats, calories, carbs and sodium for every item on their menu.
In 2010, banning helium filled metallic or Mylar balloons because they get tangled in the power lines causing power outages.
Charging grocery store customers a .25 cent fee for each bag they need to use for groceries, but no fee if you bring your own bags starting in 2011.
They have already passed in the Senate and I believe they will become law. I would like to see all restaurants list this information. Would you bring bags to the store to avoid the charge for each bag?
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
31 May 08
I think those are very good changes! I don't eat out very often because I have to control my calories and not knowing the nutritional values can really throw a monkey wrench into my fitness plan. Balloons are great but they should be kept under control. And the bag fee is just self-defense..think about the oil it takes for plastic bags, and you just throw them away if you're not frugal. I have so many it's ridiculous!! I take a few bags to the store but sometimes I get more than my bags can hold.
California is usually considered a "whacko" state where I'm from but in this case I think they're right. It's a few good moves for the environment and conservation and there's nothing wrong with that or with making people aware of what they're putting into their bodies.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
31 May 08
The bag is the one that barely passed in the senate and in the assembly is going to be a challenge to hopefully get it to pass. It would be good for the environment and I think people should save their bags and take them to the store.
The Republicans are fighting this bill saying its going to hurt low income people.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
31 May 08
Oh, bull crap!! People can take a sheet to the market and pack everything up in that, or a pillowcase! Lord knows how many plastic bags we have sitting in landfills just taking up space!
I have a year's worth of bright orange newspaper bags languishing in my basement. Eventually, I'll think of a use for them but I refuse to throw them away!
People can sew bags from old jeans they would normally throw away, all it takes is a needle and thread or even a stapler.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
31 May 08
I completely agree and think the Republicans fighting the bill are wrong. They are saying its "anti-consumer" I think its just the opposite, as people will buy more food, if the store could lower prices. I would like to see all grocery stores have lines where the consumer can bag their own groceries.
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@jewelenterprises (1996)
• Australia
31 May 08
Hmmm, that was news to me about those balloons causing power outages.
Regarding shopping bags, here in Australia they are doing similar things and I think it's a great idea. For the last five years large stores have been offering alternatives to plastic bags in the form of fabric bags either for sale or free with purchase. I believe there is to be a charge on plastic bags in the future but am unsure when. I think they need to take things further though since many people use those bags for garbage which means they will simply start buying garbage bags instead. Consequently I think they need to make all garbage bags biodegradable to lessen their impact on the environment.
The interesting thing is that a couple of years ago a major hardware retailer (Bunnings) decided to start charging 10 cents per plastic bag. It was expected that the charge would result in a 50% reduction in plastic bag usage. The actual reduction was around 90% because us Aussies are too tight assed to pay for plastic bags LOL.
Working in a grocery store I get a lot of customers commenting that they forgot their enviro bags. Honestly, if I received $1 for every person who said that I'd be earning at least 30% extra each week LOL. I guarantee though that when we start charging for bags people will stop forgetting to bring them.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
31 May 08
I completely agree biodegradable bags. San Francisco, California already banned plastic bags for large grocery stores. Now large grocery stores will have to use biodegradable bags made of corn starch or bags made of recyclable paper in San Francisco. You won't hear paper or plastic.
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@jewelenterprises (1996)
• Australia
1 Jun 08
I'd say that at this point 30-40% of customers are using alternative bags.
That comes from my perspective as a checkout operator in a major grocery store. I must admit that the bags make our job harder as we pack the groceries and many of the bags do not fit the bag racks correctly.
But I guess that is the price we have to pay for being more environmentally friendly.
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@sugarfloss (2139)
• Malaysia
31 May 08
hello fishmomma,I would definitely bring a bag to the store and also to help the environment!
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
31 May 08
I agree with you 100%. I'm willing to do my part and bring back the bags. Right now, stores just add on the price of the bag, which means higher priced groceries.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
1 Jun 08
Iwould love to see all restaurant chains here in Ca
list the fat, calories and carbs and sodium of each
meal. I would be so helpful for those of us who are
trying to live a healthy lifestyle. also the helium
filled metallic balloons that would be great to outlaw
them too.I dontlikethe charge a quarter for each bag thats
outrageous. hope it does not pass.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
2 Jun 08
The quarter charge may end up being lowered; however, if people just bring back the bags, then there is no charge. Participate in the Coastal Beach Cleanup just one time and you will see the serious problem with the bags. I picked up over 50 in the last cleanup and some were really dirty and yes I was wearing gloves.
@Rosekitty (19368)
• San Marcos, Texas
31 May 08
Ms Fish..
Rest. should post that info sure would help me decide to order healthier items then.. No Mylar will soon put the balloon people out of business..
I already take my own bags here in Texas to the store and soon it will be necessary since they will charge here too..I say its about time!
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
31 May 08
I'm all for no more Mylar balloons, as tired of the power outages in June because of these balloons. Every year, I have to throw out food and the price of food is sky high here. The power company is overworked and there is no reason balloon outages should continue.
The Assembly will pass this bill to save money. This year they will have to pass anything that saves money.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
31 May 08
Yeah when we lived in Tahoe the stores had something set up. I can't remember how it went but I think they charged you for bags or they gave you a credit if you brought your own. I can't remember which I just remember taking our own bags to the store.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
31 May 08
I use to receive a credit when bringing in my bags. My local store stopped offering it, but think if they did it again people would be happy to bring in bags.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
31 May 08
Our stores have started selling reusable bags. I would probably buy them if they offered a credit as well but they don't, so I just take my plastic bags back to the store and put them in their recycling bin for plastic bags.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
7 Jun 08
sure I would bring my own bags, because bags are expensive and the plastic never breaks down for thousands of years, we really do have to start going green
@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
7 Jun 08
My husband and I have discussed this one and we both realize its important to bring our own bags. We support this one. This one is in the most trouble of passing, but I think San Francisco making a stand will help this pass. People said it wouldn't work there, but its working.
@whittby (3072)
• United States
2 Jun 08
First of all, these all sound like changes I would support. The dollar store here sells the helium balloons and while they are cute, what a waste of plastic and where do they go once they get lost in the air anyway, power lines, break and litter the landscape. I imagine the companies manufacturing these won't be pleased.
As far as bringing my own bags, I would. On the other hand here - naturally - , I don't know if you have Aldi stores near you, but they have been selling their bags for years now. They charge per paper bag and a little more for plastic. I have to admit when we lived in Ohio and shopped there, I forgot to bring bags 50 percent of the time and ended up paying. At the least, I sometimes kept their bags in the car and reused them in my more efficient days.
@Foxfire1875 (2010)
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31 May 08
These seem all good changes but I would like you I would like to see all resturants list fats, calories, carbs and sodium for every item or at least have a info sheet for anyone who asks.
I do take my own bags as much as possible to shops and I noticed last Saturday that Marks and spencers have already started charging 5 pence for a bag. I don't have a problem with shops doing this as it will encourage people to use less.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
31 May 08
I agree think people will use less and many will bring their bags. Thanks for informing all the United States members that your country is already charging for bags.
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
1 Jun 08
I think restaurants should have to spill the beans about what they're serving. I think we'll all be surprised.
Mylar balloons? California must let loose lots of balloons for it to be causing problems with power outages. I've never heard that in states where I've lived - PA, MI, MO, TX, FL, OH. Weird. Of course, I don't see many mylar balloons here (or in the other places I lived). We certainly don't release them often. Hmmm.
I think there should be a charge for grocery bags. Those plastic things do cause problems. In FL and TX, that was a problem in the Gulf. Not good for fish or the birds that swoop down to the water for food.
@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
2 Jun 08
Mylar balloons are very popular in Southern California where they are a big problem. People bring them to many parties and my neighbors have parties every week and I see the power company every week getting balloons off the power lines. This is a big problem, as I'm tired of having the power turned off for at least an hour every week. They can't just fine them, as they don't know which house is letting them go. The power company has stated its happening on a lot of streets and its getting worse. I'm seeing a lot more home parties and this city isn't the worse.