Who is a Christian?
By Pose123
@Pose123 (21635)
Canada
June 6, 2008 7:03pm CST
There are several hundred denominations within Christianity, some of which differ very little, while others have very different views. Some people say that you become a Christian when you join the church, others say that you don't need to follow any church, just live as Jesus taught. There are those who teach that you become a Christian when your are baptised, others say that baptism is not necessary. Many today say that being a Christian means having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. The latter however, is a fairly new way of thinking, as even the churches that broke with the Catholic church during the reformation still held unto baptism, whether it was infant or adult, as being the way of entering the Church. I know that there are passages in the Bible that seem to support both, but I'm wondering when ministers first started preaching about a personal relationship with Christ. I want to respect all points of view so lets not start condemning each other. I promise to respect all opinions given here, and not make judgements in my responses.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
7 Jun 08
Almost 1500 years ago an enterprising man dreamed up a Business that he called Christianity. He gathered up all the stories about God and Heaven that were floating around at that time and incorporated them in a book called the Holy Book of God, or the Bible. Up until that time there were no Churches. THis man was the first Preacher (priest) and he taught fire and brimstone. This idea caught on with the people and the Business prospered. Over the centuries the bible was changed (over 275 times) to reflect what the Church wanted to teach. People flocked to the Church and today Christianity is the most Wealthy and the most Powerful Business Organisation on Earth, bar None.
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
7 Jun 08
Yea, that huge church complex with the skylights, auditorium, gymnasium, Olympic size pool, playground larger than the cities that is close by to me is a good example of how well their doing. You could fit the whole population of the town in there comfortably.
Non profit my Arsh!
@headhunter525 (3548)
• India
8 Jun 08
barehugs, I am afraid your information is untrue. Christianity was started 1500 years ago. It was started nearly 2000 years ago. Where from did you get the information that the Bible was changed 275 times? What is your source?
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@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
11 Jun 08
a church is not a building.. ^_^
the Church is the people who is the body of Christ, and Christ is the Head of the Church
@II2aTee (2559)
• United States
11 Jun 08
Hello Pose. I really have no insight to offer you on this topic, but I really wanted to show you the respect this kind of open discussion deserves. It has been a very interesting read for Christians and non-Christians alike.
Kudos to you!
Tee
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@Harley009 (1416)
• India
22 Jul 08
I think it is very difficult for Christians or outsiders to find which one is the real Christian.
And as for Islam, there are only very few sects and there don't have much difference either and they follow the same Quran. The main two distinguishable groups in Muslims are Sunni and Shia, Most people think think only fight in Iraq while hearing sunni and shia, it is not like that they are just two different interpretations of the same thing many sunnis and shias are living together with peace and harmony. We are living together here(India) with Hindus, Christians and Sikhs so nothing wrong in living in peace with shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims.
As an Islamic believer, I would say the real Christian is a real Muslim LOL. that means who follow the teachings of Prophet Jesus(Iesa). We Muslims accept all prophets (Mohammad, Jesus, Moses, David, Abraham, Noah, etc...) and we do not consider any distinction between them, we have the Latest revelations from God through the final prophet Prophet Mohammad and it agree with the teachings of Jesus, Moses, and Abraham; and it completes the message of God.
Didn't intend a argument here. Just our thoughts in this matter.
No worries,
Peace
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@faith210 (11224)
• Philippines
7 Jun 08
Hi Pose123! I was baptized in the Roman Catholic religion. However, in my journey on my faith, I have adopted the new way of thinking as others may call it of being a Christian. I would like to think that I have a fairly good personal relationship with Jesus Christ but of course, He is the only who can tell me that my relationship with Him is good enough. I try my best to follow His teachings and to do what is right and good but of course, then again, I know I fall short of that every now and then. I could only speak for what I believe in and just like you, I respect others beliefs too. I am no judge of anyone and I have no right to say to others that what they believe is not true. I only know the difference between what is good and what is evil. I am no expert in theology nor any teachings in other religion. I have read in the Bible of the personal relationships of Jesus to His apostles and of the Holy Spirit guiding the disciples when Jesus has ascended to Heaven. I do believed that it is not enough that we know all the teachings and doctrines of the Church or the Bible but what is important is how our personal relationship with Jesus is. I only have a simple faith and don't want to complicate it more because sometimes it gets confusing when there are so conflicting arguments. I just follow my heart and I know it leads to Jesus.
Take care and God bless!
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
12 Jun 08
The word christian comes from the name of Jesus Christ and a Christian is one who believes that Jesus Christ is the son of God. It follows of course thatnif you believe thatmHe is the son of God, that you will follow and apply his teachings and one of these would include the sacrament of baptism. You become a Christian once you believe that Jesus is the son og God and Baptism is just a means of formalizing this belief. Yes, I agree that religion is a personal relationship with God and it does not mattet what church you join to practice your faith because in the end, it is how you worship and apply His treachings that matters. You can be guided by religious teachings but it is your personal interpretation which will decide the manner ,the depth and the extent of how you exercise your faith.
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@headhunter525 (3548)
• India
8 Jun 08
A Christian is one who follows Christ Jesus as Lord and Saviour, and to whom is given his or her total allegiance. 'Christian' is a term given by others to those followers of Jesus of Nazareth whose allegiance is not to the Caesar/Roman empire or anything else but to Jesus. The decision has to be made individually, but the decision has to be lived out in public as well in private. The Baptism is therefore the public declaration of that decision and hence entry to the membership of the Church. Baptism is useless if the decision is not made in your heart to give one's total allegiance to Jesus. The phrase 'personal relationship' is a phrase introduced recently. It was not used this way in the first century when Christianity first began. Till the beginning of the 4th century to pledge allegiance to Jesus was a costly affair. It would cost one's life.
Regards,
Headhunter525
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@SheliaLee (2736)
• United States
7 Jun 08
I base my response on the Bible which I believe is God breathed and is God's Holy word. I believe that when a person realizes that they have sinned and are sorry that they have sinned then they ask Jesus to forgive them of their sin and come into their heart to become Savior and Lord of their life. God Bless you dear friend and thank you for listening.
SheliaLee
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@Mirita (2668)
• United States
7 Jun 08
I'm a catholic ,so I believe in following all the holy sacraments and going to church ,but I don't think that you have to be a fanatic. To me being a christian means to try my best to follow the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ. To me actions speak louder than words and is more important to act like a christian than to brag that you are a christian.
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@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
11 Jun 08
A real Christian is a follower of Christ Jesus.. ^_^
Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the DISCIPLES were called CHRISTIANS first in Antioch.
see the disciples of Christ..
1 Peter 4:12-19 (Suffering for Being a Christian)
Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. However, if you suffer as a CHRISTIAN, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name. For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And,
"If it is hard for the righteous to be saved,
what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?"
So then, those who suffer according to God's will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.
..applicable only for Christians.. ^_^
@almasihealthcare (18)
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9 Jun 08
To me, a Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus Christ as his or her Saviour and has a personal relationship with Him. This relationship includes following His teachings which are in the Bible for the Bible asks us how can 2 walk together if they have not agreed? Therefore, to daily walk with Jesus, you have to agree with Him and do as the Word of God says.
This includes going to Church because the Bible tells us that we should not forsake the gathering of the faithful. It also includes baptism for Jesus Himself was baptized in the Jordan River by John the Baptist.
Being a Christian therefore includes all the things that you have mentioned and even more. What is important is that you start where you are one step at a time. Begin with accepting Jesus as your Saviour, read the Bible and pray everyday and then work your way down the 10 commandments. As you begin your efforts to sincerely live a life that is pleasing to God, He will show you the other areas of your life that you need to work on.
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@torchablazed (3218)
• Philippines
7 Jun 08
hi, let me share to you a wonderful poem by Carol Wimmer, which to me would be relevant to your post.
When I say "I am a Christian"
When I say I am a Christian, I am not shouting I am saved
I am whispering I get lost, That is why I choose this way.
When I say I am a Christian, I dont speak this with pride
I am confessing that I can stumble, and I need someone to be my Guide
When I say I am a Christian, I am not trying to be strong
I am professiong that I am weak, and pray for strength to carry on
When I say I am a Christian, I am not bragging of my success
I am admitting I have failed, and I cannot pay the debt.
When I say I am a Christian, I am not claiming to be perfect
My flaws are too visible, but God believes I am worth it.
When I say I am a Christian, I still feel the sting of my pain
I have my share of heartaches, which is why I seek His name
When I say I am a Christian, I dont wish to be judge
I have no authority, I am only being loved.
@torchablazed (3218)
• Philippines
7 Jun 08
I think this is the identity of person who is called Christian.
I don't think Christian isnt a religion per se.
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@Zergonipal (807)
• Poland
7 Jun 08
I think that the religion is a God's thing and Church is NOW nothing more then Human's thing. All of us are making mistakes. Those who are in the command of the church too. They only can keep walking in the dark like all of us. That is why I think that the most important thing for any believer (christian or others) is their personal attitude to the Maker and their fellings. Church isn't the most important thing in the world couse we are not worshiping peoples in them but the Lord. I saw peoples that is fanatically standing by their priest and when it comes to helping others they would rather split on them then help. This isn't religion for me.
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