The American Gray Squirrel
By worldwise1
@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
June 15, 2008 10:14am CST
There was an amusing piece on Sunday Morning on CBS this morning about a different kind of American invasion regarding England. It seems the American gray squirrel has all but taken over due to their fast breeding thereby creating quite a problem in England. This is not a new problem since the squirrel was introduced there back in the late 1920s. The piece stated that many thousands of these critters have been either killed or trapped but they are a long way from reducing the population to a manageable level. The red squirrel is native to England but it is a smaller and less aggressive species whose population has greatly declined. The upshot of the situation is some are questioning whether these gray squirrels should be viewed as invaders since they were purposely introduced into the wildlife population in the beginning. This leads to the question, Is it a good thing to introduce a foreign species into another wildlife venue? How do you think this problem should be handled?
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
15 Jun 08
I didn't know they were called American grey squirrels. lol We ahve the same problem with those little rascals here in the states. I remember a time when we had plenty of cute little red squirrels running around but I hardly see them anymore. The grey squirrels have taken over and run off the red ones.
Why would anyone introduce them to England anyway?
I really don't know how it should be handled. I guess they're there to stay. Damn Yankees! lol
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
16 Jun 08
Nice bit of humor there, piasabird!The squirrels were originally taken to England by someone who thought they would be fun(probably a hunter). I am remembering a house I lived in about 20 years ago that I really liked so much. I had to move out because the squirrels set up housekeeping in the attic and we could never get rid of them no matter how hard we tried. It is against the law to kill them in this area. The critters were so smart that they evaded the traps that were set up to capture them. I was told there was a strong possibility they could eventually gnaw through the wiring and that would be very dangerous.
@heleni0 (322)
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15 Jun 08
I was born and bred in England and in my entire twenty-three years of living I have NEVER seen a red squirrel (not including TV and pictures, obviously). I am very familiar with grey squirrels though, and I absolutely adore them. You'll find them in most parks and gardens here. When I was growing up we'd have grey squirrels come into our back garden and take food right out of my hand. I still get very excited when I see one though.
Apparently you can eat grey squirrels, but the red ones taste yucky. Some see this as a good thing, since eating the greys would get rid of them and make way for the reds to thrive again. The Isle of Wight is the only place in the United Kingdom where you won't find squirrels. It seems they didn't manage to make it that far.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
16 Jun 08
You probably have not seen a red squirrel, heleni0, because there are so few of them left. I don't know that you would find them so adorable if they took up residence in your home the way they did in mine.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
17 Jun 08
When I even see a mouse I run in terror, helen0! I absolutely refuse to share my living space with them.
@Aurone (4755)
• United States
15 Jun 08
It is never never never a good idea to introduce a new species or what biologists call an invasive species to an area. Usually since the constraints found in their natural habitat are missing (i.e. other competeting species or natural predators. Therefore their population can explode and be detrimental to natural populations.
Other examples of invasive species includes Kudzu in the south, zebra mussels in the great lakes, Japanese honeysuckle, Salt cedar (has been really detrimental to the Mojave Desert replacing the natural cottonwood species on which birds are dependent on for nesting). And Australia has had a heck of a time with invasive species like cane toads, rabbits and cats. Here is an article on Supercats (Savannah Cats) which pose to be the next problem in Australia.
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/14/next-to-invade-australia-supercats/
Getting rid of the invasive species would be the best possible solution but sometimes they introduce one species to get rid of another--Cane toads are an example. I think trapping as many grey squirrels as possible and perhaps start a breeding program for the red squirrels might be a good answer to the situation. Its always hard to remove an invasive species once it has taken hold.
btw just because an organism was introduced on purpose doesn't make it any less an invasive species. Cane toads were introduced on purpose and they are considered to be quite the pesky invasive species.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
16 Jun 08
You are so smart, Aurone, and I always look forward to your responses when I post on certain topics! What you say is all true and it only makes me wonder why man feels the need to interfere with nature in the first place. Most things are as they are for a certain reason and according to a plan. Thanks for the link.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
17 Jun 08
After checking out your link I decided that this is just plain scary!
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jun 08
LOL--maybe the overpopulation of the American Gray Squirrel is getting even with England for introducing the house sparrows, pigeons and starlings....did you know that they aren't indigenous to this country but were also introduced to us around the late 1800s??-those three birds aren't protected precisely due to their not being originally from this country. It's a shame though that the squirrels are being trapped and killed..even though some consider squirrels as glorified rats with bushy tails I happen to like them. We have our own problems here as well,...not with squirrels but the large pigeon population...I suppose you've no doubt heard of the yearly pigeon hunts they have usually in the PA area..were thousands of pigeons are killed off. I guess way back when, no one thought of the problems it would cause to introduce species of animals to places where they didn't origniate
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@paid2write (5201)
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15 Jun 08
Grey squirrels can be seen in every park and in most gardens and woodlands of England. The red squirrel can only be found in a few small woodland locations. It is not just that the Aemrican squirrels are more aggressive than the native red ones, but the natural habitat of the red squirrel has been much reduced too.
I have seen red squirrels. They are smaller and much more shy than the grey ones. I don't know why the greys were introduced, maybe for food or as pets. Some people kill them, cook them and eat them!
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
16 Jun 08
You are right, paid2write. Having grown up in the southern United States, I can attest to how popular they were as food years ago. I don't know about now. I do know that I could never eat one.I believe they were introduced into England for the benefit of hunters.
@jer31558 (3683)
• United States
15 Jun 08
I am one that is against the introduction of wildlife into another area for the most part. I think it can have bad side effects for both the wildlife and the people life. What to do about it? Well I would suggest setting traps and using them to feed the homeless. I used to eat squirrel growing up and the taste isn't bad. That would kill two birds with one stone.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
16 Jun 08
That's a good suggestion, jer, because I have a feeling that hunger will be an even bigger problem for more people in the near future. I've never eaten squirrel before but I know some that have, and if it came down to a choice of starving I would eat them.
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@hockeygal4ever (10021)
• United States
20 Jun 08
I think it's what happens when you start messing with nature. We, as humans, are way too quick to both rid the world of it's natural resources and life, while just as quick to try to change it.
@shantiquarian (146)
• United States
9 Aug 08
What's fair is fair. English invaded the American Indians only fair that their squirrels invade England.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
20 Jun 08
An exodus of course. The English should round up All the gray squirrels and put them on a ship back to North America.That way the red squirrel can be revived.
@Deea48 (1166)
• United States
17 Jun 08
I saw the same story, I love that Sunday Morning show ,it is one of the few shows I have to watch every week. I had to giggle just abit when I foundout they were imported over, some english man just had to have them there as well. I suppose they will have to keep doing what they are, hunting them down. It is too bad though, those little Red squirrels are so cute. Would be shame if they couldnt control the grey squirrel to the point they loose the cute red squirrel.