Does Deuteronomy 18:18 Prophesy of Muhammad?
@vonkristoffer (833)
Philippines
June 15, 2008 7:59pm CST
"I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him." (Deuteronomy 18:18)
..^_^
I will put My Words in His Mouth...He Shall Speak to Them All that I Command...He Shall Speak in My Name
have any idea..?? ^_^
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@Gordano (795)
• United States
17 Jun 08
Thank you for staring such a topic That proves The truth of Islam, It doesn't Matter If it is a prophecy about Jesus or about Muhammad, Because in Both situations It Proves Islam Not Christianity, Now Let's Explain:
It is a prophecy about a PROPHET like Moses,
(*) If It is a prophecy about Jesus, Then Jesus is a PROPHET, Therefor Islam is The Truth because it is Muslims who Think that Jesus is a PROPHET.
(*) If it is a prophecy about Muhammad, Then Islam is approved.
Thank you once again for starting such a Topic.
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
18 Jun 08
yes he is a prophet.. and yet without sin and a God.. thats make him different from the other prophets.. ^_^
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@awapak (1275)
• Pakistan
20 Jul 08
Gordano,
Thanks for your excellent reasoning and reply,which has proved the ultimate Truth of Islam.......This has proved that Jesus(pbuh)was also a Prophet like other Prophets of God as Moses (pbuh).........But the polytheist people have to make him a God....There is no God except one God Almighty and it is the biggest TRUTH of this universe......
@awapak (1275)
• Pakistan
16 Jun 08
I think these verses may not be for Holy Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)but may be for Holy Prophet Jesus(pbuh).I think we should read complete book rather than relying on only few verses which may not be so clear.Why not to read Deuteronomy 33:2,which clearly mentions about the three Prophets of God i.e Prophet Moses,Prophet Jesus and Prophet Muhammad(all pbuh):
"And he said,the Lord came from Sinai,and rose up from Seir unto them;he shined forth from Mount Paran,and he came with ten thousand saints;from right hand went a fiery law for them."
Please see Prophet Moses brought the God's message from Sinai,then continued by Prophet Jesus(alludes Seir)and then Prophet Muhammad shone forth from Mount Paran(Farran)located near Mecca.He came with 10,000 saints.This is very clear.At the time of the conquest of Mecca,10,000 holy men were with him and he was also the bearer of the law of the Quran(a fiery law for them).
Please read all these verses and then decide did'nt they clearly prophesy about the Final Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)..?
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
18 Jun 08
yes you mentioned read it completely.. then read it.. the one that you quote.. did it clearly mentioned a prophet?? ^_^ read it all so that you will understand it... ^_^
@Harley009 (1416)
• India
20 Jul 08
I will raise up for them a PROPHET like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him." (Deuteronomy 18:18) As you written
I will raise them up a PROPHET from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
(KJV)
It says God will raise a PROPHET like MOSES from their brothers. God will put his words in his mouth and that prophet tell everything that God Commands.
* It clearly says God will raise a PROPHET
* That Prophet is like MOSES (so should not be son of GOD or GOD)
* If that Prophet is GOD no need to put GOD's words in his mouth again.
* If that Prophet is GOD no need to command at him.
@Harley009 (1416)
• India
20 Jul 08
Even Deu - 33:2 not directly stating like that it can be understood in such a way.
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
18 Jun 08
..^_^ surely not..
did i explain that verse to you.. already?? ^_^
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
19 Jun 08
..^_^
okey i got your point..
the answer is simple..
how can we love God if we don't have a choice or a freewill.. ^_^
@WhatsHerName (2716)
• United States
19 Jun 08
The only prophesy about Muhammad in the Bible is when Jesus warns of false prophets. Muhammad was a false prophet.
@WhatsHerName (2716)
• United States
20 Jun 08
"the Bible should be the Standard of right and wrong, truth and evil.. etc..^_^"
I guess Muhammad didn't understand that because he sure did change it to suit his own needs didn't he?
@moon317318 (692)
• Pakistan
20 Jun 08
prophet Muhammad did not speak of his own will, he did not chabged anything untill it was an order from GOD
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
20 Jun 08
..^_^
Matthew 7:15-23
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day,Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
God give us this Bible.. to know whether they are right or wrong.. see below..
2 Timothy 3:16-17
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
the Bible should be the Standard of right and wrong, truth and evil.. etc.. ^_^
@headhunter525 (3548)
• India
16 Jun 08
The Christians will refer that to Jesus. I don't know what the Jews would say. But if Muslim says it is referred to prophet Muhammad I would say it is wrong. I would say they got the interpretation wrong since they are not biblical scholars. I have not read any scholarly book on Christian theology by any Muslim. Blessings!
@Gordano (795)
• United States
17 Jun 08
On what standards you based your sentence;
"But if Muslim says it is referred to prophet Muhammad I would say it is wrong. I would say they got the interpretation wrong since they are not biblical scholars"
I 'm a Muslim, and yes I 'm NOT a Bible scholar, and Here is My View on Deuteronomy 18:18:
anyhow It is a prophecy about a PROPHET like Moses, Christians don't Think That Jesus Christ is a Prophet, But Muslims do.
-- IF It is a prophecy about Jesus, Then Jesus is a PROPHET, Therefor, Islam is The Truth because it is Muslims "NOT Christians" who Think that Jesus is a PROPHET.
-- If it is a prophecy about Muhammad, Then Islam is Proven to be The Truth.
You see, It is a simple Logic when you use your Mind, It doesn't Need a Sunday philosophers to tell you That Only Them Have The Truth and all Others are wrong.
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@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
18 Jun 08
..^_^
the Jews.. they didn't even believe in the Messiah..
they are still waiting for the Messiah.. but still they are the Chosen people of God.. ^_^
you know there are only three persons on this world.. the Jews, the Gentiles.. and the Church
@positiveminded1977 (7072)
• India
17 Jun 08
Well, I dunno how you expect me to respond to this. I have so far read only a few pages of the Deutronomy. Most of it I feel is a flash back of the Exodus and Leviticus. All this has got no bearing on present life. For instance, these prophets are supposed to be men. Does this mean God is averse to women? Why doesn't He put words in HER mouth instead of only HIS mouth? Looks like a very chauvinist male has written this. :)
Cheers and happy mylotting!
@positiveminded1977 (7072)
• India
18 Jun 08
You have not answered my question about why the Biblical God is averse to women. :) But let us not press the issue right now.
This Satan interests me. Why does everybody say Satan tempted Eve? In the Genesis, it is clearly given that the serpent got her interested in the forbidden fruits. A SERPENT... nowhere is it described that it is Satan.. only serpent, an innocent crawling creature that must have gotten interested in the fruits and asked Eve to accompany it (since it is easy for the first humans to interact with animals).. And who on earth told you the serpent is an enemy of mankind? I live close to a snake temple. There are heaps of serpents here, all worshiped by snake worshipers... harmless creatures that live in harmony with their devotees. No animosity of any type here. I myself have come across so many serpents in my garden. One even entered my house, but we did not kill it. In fact, we just waited for it to leave. No animosity of any kind between serpents and Indians, I assure you. Of course, not all Indians are snake worshipers, some of them also do kill snakes like they kill any other type of animal.
Now, I wonder where the word Satan appears in the Bible? So far, I have reached uptil only a few pages of Deutronomy, and still no Satan has appeared. Makes me feel Satan is a special creation of the Church to see that you behave!! LOL
Cheers and happy mylotting
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
19 Jun 08
yes it is a SERPENT.. but wait did it mentioned that a snake tempted Eve?? yes in the later part it crawled on its belly (Genesis 3:14).. but at the time when the SERPENT tempted Eve, does it said a snake tempted eve?? ^_^.. if you are Eve will you be tempted if a snake can talk?? ^_^..
in Genesis 3:1 it said
"Now the serpent was more CRAFTY.." then who is good in deceiving others???
see this..
Revelation 12:9
"The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient SERPENT called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray..."
now about your question..
again I said, God love us ALL (John 3:16).. does it said excluding women??
God made it easy for us on this new covenant.. girl.. ^_^
Proverbs 3:5 said
"Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;"
..^_^
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@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
18 Jun 08
..^_^
i respect your response..
well we all suffer here on earth.. not just you..
it all started here: Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.
..^_^
when the first Man and Women choose the tree of knowledge of good and evil.. Satan had deceive them.. until now some where deceive..
but God love us.. He gave his only Son.. that whosoever believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16) ..^_^
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@urbandekay (18278)
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3 Jul 08
If you read this in context it is clear it cannot possibly refer to Muhammad. In fact nowhere does any prophesy refer to Muhammad.
all the best urban
@roshand8 (1478)
• Sri Lanka
18 Jun 08
This is just about the Joshua. He was not telling about the long future event which is going to take place thousands of years after. Moses new that he is going to die someday so, he encourage the people to be still with new leader and obey his commands. Actually this is not a prophecy. Some Christian theologians always link these kind of verses of the old to Jesus and its not always. Remember Jesus is not a prophet he is the God himself.
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
16 Jun 08
yes bro.. your right.. ^_^
they have just mis interpret what God said.. "like Moses.."
..^_^ it means that.. a mediator [BETWEEN PEOPLE AND GOD] coz Moses in his time, he was their mediator (Deuteronomy 5:27)..
again like Moses.. Deuteronomy 34:10-12 said:
"Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD [KNEW FACE TO FACE], who did all those miraculous [SIGNS AND WONDERS] the LORD sent him to do in Egypt—to Pharaoh and to all his officials and to his whole land. For no one has ever shown the [MIGHTY POWER] or performed the [AWESOME DEEDS] that Moses did in the sight of all Israel."
who could it be.. ^_^ non other than Jesus Christ..
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
18 Jun 08
efc872.. you don't understand what is my point here and what i want to open up.. ^_^ i explained that verse to you.. is it not clear??
@mclendon (308)
• United States
16 Jun 08
This is Moses telling the nation of Israel that God will provide a prophet to speak to them and give them leadings from God after he is gone. He may be predicting the line of prophets generally that God provided. Some translations say "from among their OWN brothers". God will raise prophet after prophet to guide Israel from within Israel.
Christianity generally also interprets this passage as foreshadowing the coming of Jesus.
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
16 Jun 08
NO, it not Muhammad certainly not! But rather it is JESUS! It was Moses who was speaking in Deuteronomy 18:18 and he was speaking with the Israelites and the Prophet he was referring to is Jesus and no one else. It could never be Muhammad because Muhammad is not an Israelite. It is very clear that Moses was saying the Prophet to come is also an Israelite so how could it be Muhammad when he is not an Israelite. In John 5:46, Jesus said that if you believe Moses, you should believe me for he wrote about me.(And it is in Deut. 18:18 that Moses talked about Him.) Earlier in John 4:44, Jesus himself confirmed that He is a prophet.
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
16 Jun 08
yes.. totally agreed.. ^_^ good verse you quote there..