Barack Hussein Obama? Is No One Questioning His Name?
@CallieWVU2 (520)
United States
June 18, 2008 4:25pm CST
Maybe this sounds horrible but I hope to God that Barack doesn't win it, not because he's a "black man" if that's what you want to call him, but because of his name, what kind of name is that? Just like on this Comedy skit I saw some guy was saying Barack couldn't have a worse name if his name was "Hitler" and then there was another name he had, but anyways, sure the guy seems nice enough, but that name has to mean something, I mean what if he does become President and then we suddenly become ruled by Saddam Hussein who we later find out is his biological father, or something to that effect...I'm not saying that's going to happen, but if something like that does, the US is going to look pretty stupid.
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@mynameismine (771)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Well the fact that you feel strongly enough to put black man in quotes automatically means, to me and many others I know, that it means a whole lot to you and what exactly to you mean 'if that is what you want to call him'. I'm curious being a mother of four very beautiful biracial children just what do you call him. Sounds like you have issues that are deeper than who is president.
But for the record the name Barack is African for blessed.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
19 Jun 08
I think she was pointing out the fact he is from a biracial background himself, but people are labeling him as a black man. Most likely for a minority vote.
But I don't pay attention to it, because it is yet another topic for gossip mongers (the press and media in general) to get people fired up--which does not help the progression of easing racial tensions past and present from either ethinic group.
ANd for someone who was unknown before he is surely known now. Ask around why people are voting for him and chances are they are not voting due to what his doing politics wise...
Have a great day.
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@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
19 Jun 08
actually I was sort of pointing out that I don't think he's a black man at all I think he's Middle Eastern.
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@Stiletto (4579)
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18 Jun 08
Are you being serious? Jeez - if that's the sort of criteria Americans base their electoral decisions on then that explains Bush I suppose.
Actually until a couple of weeks ago I knew very little about Obama. I'm British so I'm not that interested in it all. However, some of the stuff I read on here about him (which was mostly pretty silly stuff like he didn't salute the flag correctly or whatever!) piqued my curiosity so I've started paying more attention to him now. I quite like him. I'm a bit miffed that Hillary didn't go the distance but I think he's ok.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
22 Jun 08
Babe, I really hope that you aren't another confused Islam basher. So what this man has an Islamic/African name. MILLIONS of people carry the same name throughout the world you know. It's like you can say Charles Manson was an evil man so every one name Charles should be labeled as such.
The problem really lies in the tearing down of Islam in the public media. Maybe you don't know any Muslim but they are not "terrorists." In fact Islam is the largest religion in the world and if every person who practiced Islam was a terrorist the world would've been doomed long ago. The news and government controlled media want you to associate Islam with terror so anything related to Islam, such as Senator Obama's name, can be subconsciously deemed as evil. YES there are some extremists who, in the name of Islam, may have committed some acts labeled as terrorism (and I don't mean 9/11, our government did that) but they do not represent the entire nation of Muslim in the world. Every religion has fanatics, Hitler was a "christian." It was Christians who came to this land and slaughtered the native American in the name of the Bible, why are they not persecuted this way?
I just really want you to have some more understanding about this because before Sadaam Hussein, I am sure many men have carried this name and still do like Johnson or Williams or McCain for that matter. I am not trying to influence your political choice but if you don't vote for the man don't let it be because you think he's a relative of Sadaam and a terrorist. I know you are wiser than that and you're really cute.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
1 Sep 08
It's funny you say that because I still think McCain is going to win, regardless of what popular opinion says. That didn't make a difference in our last two elections
@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
24 Jun 08
I'm just saying that given the recent war, that people would be more cautious about it, but apparently they have no qualms. We'll see who's right and who's wrong when he becomes President, which I have no doubt that he will, and then we'll really see what happens.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
18 Jun 08
Well, I for one do not judge anyone by their name...and I for one am pretty darn sure I will not be voting for Barack Obama. And that is because I have been reading up on a current bill that he sponsored and is moving through the senate....and whoever the president will be will have to "develop and implement" a strategy to further the US foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty....in other words....our taxes will be raised to help end global poverty in connection with the UN Millennium Challenge Act....and there is quite a bit of controversy on this bill. ANd we the taxpayers will be paying this...
For some reason people who are for Obama are excited for a change to happen and so far the change seems to be more taxation and again helping the world's poverty, which is fine and dandy, but we have our own people who are starving in the streets, people stuck on welfare, etc. And again Obama sponsored this bill.
Focusing on issues like religion, gender, ethinicity is only taking away the spotlight on the actual issues that matter. And I for one want to be educated as a voter when I enter that booth. ANd I will also read his book....not because I am for him, only because if you get a glimpse of a person's past and character and see what they are doing now as a senator you can pretty much peek into the future.
To me, actions speak louder than words. And so far I am not impressed with the "time for a change" spin.....People need to remember not all change leads to a positive end. ANd his supporters might be the ones who will be complaining the most when and if the bill leads to higher taxes.
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@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
18 Jun 08
Thank you for the education, I don't really try to listen to much of what they're peddling, it's all crap anyway, nothing's ever going to get better, it's going to get worse from here on out.
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
18 Jun 08
but if you read up on these issues and pass on the information then that will surely be more of a favorable way to pass on a creditable vote. And people can actually debate issues that will affect us. IMO, the media plays up these fears of people and encourages the gossip, kinda like the gossip mills we see at work.
I wasn't trying to demean anyone, merely trying to help pass on the information.
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@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
18 Jun 08
You weren't demeaning anyone, didn't mean to make you think that, other responses on here have been a bit attacking, but not yours, thank u.
@fafinette79 (943)
• United States
20 Jun 08
Picking a president of the US shouldn't be based on a person's name, but on the character and plans of the person. I wouldn't vote for Hiliary Clinton because she is the wife of a president I liked. Hiliary basically just repeated everything that Obama said about change. I'm glad she dropped out. If she made it as president....who would she copy after once she came into office. What you are speaking of is a form of discrimination. Why does the workds a black man have to be in quotes? We don't question his skin color. We put Bush in office twice and look at the mess we are in now. Gas is rising everyday and tuition rates are up 30%. Bush has it where we can't go far and can't get a decent education without putting more money in his pocket. You can't really compare Obama to Hitler or Saddam when you actually listen to his message. Obama doesn't want to kill anyone because of their background or religion and he doesn't want to destroy other countries. Obama's name means "slightly bending". Barack means "blessed" and Hussein means "handsome one". So he's a blessed, handsome man that can bend in different situations.
@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
20 Jun 08
I put black man in quotes because I don't think he IS a black man, I think he's Middle Eastern, and I consider black men to be different than Middle Eastern men.
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@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
20 Jun 08
which is still a biased opinion on my part, but 9/11 wasn't so long ago, so I think I have a bit of a right to be wary at least.
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@fafinette79 (943)
• United States
22 Jun 08
My husband wasn't born in the country, has an accent, and doesn't have an American name. Should I have been cautious of him? 9/11 was because of some sick people, not because of a particular religion. They want to break down the ties and bonds in the US, but we do that enough on our own. We judge just by looking, but don't we know our eyes can deceive us? His name only means that his mother and father took their time and named him after what they wanted him to achieve, which is what most did before Christ was born. Now we mostly name our children because it sounds good. I named my daughter a name that means "mightest girl" because five doctors told me to abort her because they believed I would miscarry or die during her birth. Would you be cautious of my nine year old daughter because of her name? It's time for a good change and not for hatred and discrimination.
By the way, my hubby isn't a citizen of this country, wasn't born in this country, but fights for his country everyday as a US Marine. Maybe Obama will do the same maybe he won't. Listen, research, ask questions, and then make an intelligent decision.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
19 Jun 08
A lot of people have expressed concerns about Obama's past ties to Islam and the fact that his name is shared with some of America's worst Muslim enemies of the past. I have always been highly suspicious that he is in fact a Muslim trying to hide fact until after the election. His election committee has taken such great pains to try and distance him from his jihadist relatives in other countries, and even gone so far as to remove Muslim women from his backdrop of supporters so they's not be visible in news photos as he makes his speeches. One of things that most amazed me was when someone early in the primary referred to him as Barack Hussein Obama, and everyone had a fit because they were supposedly trying to hide the Hussein part of his name(as if...?) from the front of his political image. I share your views on this completely.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Read the following post and then come back for a rebuttal if you want:
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1556336.aspx
@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
19 Jun 08
FINALLY someone who's not shutting me down completely THANK you.
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@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
19 Jun 08
rats...i mean it's going to stay secret.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Of course his name at first was kind of weird..questionable but still, it isn't right to judge someone on something like that alone and so I didn't. I did find him to be likeable and charming but other issues came in to question along the way and much more legitimate than a name. What i'm most frustrated with at this point is our lack of choices. I'm not a big mccain fan either. I loved john edwards and thought I had my mind made up but then he dropped off and now he supports obama....very frustrating times we are in.
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@Xdrowninghavocx (3117)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Name shouldn't have anything to do with being eligible for president. This election has made me more nervous than any other ones. I don't know how this is going to work out. I just wish that people would stop focusing on little things like ethnicity and gender and look at the big picture. Anyway the US is already looking kind of questionable. And I do believe we've already begun to dig ourselves into a hole. Now we just need a way out.
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@fluffnflowers (1594)
• United States
19 Jun 08
There are hundreds (most likely thousands) of people with the name Hussein. I know three people with the name Saddam -- are they all evil, horrible dictators? I'm also related to a handful of Adolfs -- they must be all ruthless, murdering dictators.
Hussein (and it's variants), by my understanding, is a very old name meaning 'handsome'. So, yes, there is a meaning to it.
The name is only playing against him because people are ignorant and don't realize that many people have names that can be traced back to less than savory characters. I have a very common female name and googling it with 'criminal' returns hundreds and hundreds of people who have committed atrocious crimes.
Does that make me the same?
(btw, America already looks stupid to the rest of the world. )
@blueandgreen (29)
• Philippines
19 Jun 08
Judging a man by his name is like judging a basketball player by his looks.
What is the logic behind it? NONE. It's all about the capabilities of that person. Even if his name is Adolf Hitler Stalin Obama, it doesn't matter as long as he will be able to deliver.
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@jesslg127 (49)
• United States
19 Jun 08
I would like him to win because we need a different view on the world. But when it comes to his name, I thought it was pretty funny at first, it would be crazy if the leader of cuba was John Smith. It hasn't changed my vote though.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
19 Jun 08
So what is the different view of the world that Obama can offer? So many people are stating this and not saying why or what his views are....other than he seems to be back and forth....and in my opinion how is that a different view...only a different face....one of a chameleon.
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@koharukusumi (1539)
• Malaysia
19 Jun 08
what is there in a name? The guy could be called Saddam Osama and i will still vote for him because of his heart and vision. Are you saying his supporters are dumb?
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
20 Jun 08
What is his heart and vision, exactly? I haven't been able to figure that out yet. Help me out here.
@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
24 Jun 08
And I'm embarrassed of how naive YOU are Serenade. Are you twelve or do you just trust everything that you want to hear and see?
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@paroloza (140)
• United States
20 Jun 08
What a superb reason to diffamate a person! One should discuss the programs, promises, personal lifestyle ... in short anything that depends on the man himself. But his name! It speaks very well of his character not to buy popularity denying the name his parents gave to him. This is the kind of character that enabled him to vote against an totally unnecessary war.
As to the US looking pretty stupid, you should include British... German... French... Spanish... etc. news and papers into your sources of information, then you would realize that somebody with the pretty name of George already took care of it!
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
25 Jun 08
Hussein is a popular Muslim name, jut as Smith is a popular American name. Joseph Smith founding the Mormon Churh. Are people who may not believe in Mormonism, but amed Smith, going to question Smith's name?
A name does not relect a person. Saddam Hussein was not evil because of his name, and his name was not what was evil, rather it was him.
He would have been just as evil had e been named Brian Brown, or something like that.
@samimkardar (828)
• United States
19 Jun 08
I think America do not need to have Saddam Hussain to make them stupid ............ Actually, It is already a stupid country with the people of ur type, with the stupid thinking, that proved that America already have stupids, he do not need to have more.
@mynameismine (771)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Well now isn't your intelligence just shining bright. Remedial English 101 maybe?
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
19 Jun 08
well, I am not antiamerican or anything like that but when Katrina was occurring and while I watched it on the news and how volunteers were being turned away and supply trucks being held up because the supplies weren't on the "list" and meanwhile people were living in horrible conditions being aired on public tv....meanwhile our president was on vacation....well, that was an example of how I think we need to focus on our aide for our own people and some may have witnessed it as a joke....which was not funny. And did not help us look good.
I know it does not pertain to Obama, but it pertains to how we are viewed publicly...and again I was not saying we are a stupid country because we are not. Only misguided and unprepared....
@samimkardar (828)
• United States
19 Jun 08
I was pointed out the comments of the CallieWVU2 in her topic where she ommented on the name of Barack Obama and refuse him to make the Presedent because she don't like his name. If the people of America voted to select their Presedent on their look, name and facees, than I am sorry to say the USA do not deserve to lead this Global world with people having immature thinking, like "CallieWVU2".
U should select the presedent on the bases of his/her honesty with the nation, either he/she is black or white, either he/she has long or short nose, either he she is beautiful/smart or ugly face.
He/she should be intellegent, should have leading quality, Should be sincere with the nation,
Do not go to vacation when the nation need him/her to be there at the time of crisis like Ketrina, Rita. God Bless U and whole World.
@firstcontact1990 (1784)
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19 Jun 08
Whats wrong with it, just because he has that particular name doesnt mean he is like Saddam does it, does everyone with hussein in their name mean their a terrorist or something..... Im not Aerican but thats what I believe anyway, what you worrying bout, in a way it is Racist!!
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
19 Jun 08
I realized that but it still was my point about how a name can change the way people view others if based upon someone else bearing the same name...the john Smith reference summed it up much better by someone else on here.
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
19 Jun 08
it actually is a biased view, not a racist view. Because the original post was concerning the name, not the ethnicity.
But I agree names do not mean anything....and historical figures have weighted down many....not just Hussein. I mean do we think John Wayne was a horrible, dispicable person just becase John Wayne Gasey was a serial killer who preyed on little boys....
A name is important and no matter what your name is, attached to influential or disastrous figures, it is up to you to own your name.
And this topic is turning out to be rather interesting as there are people who are bringing forth actual issues helping people to further understand their civic duty as voters, not the high shcool popularity contest some people are trying to turn this election out to be.
@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
19 Jun 08
John Wayne Gacey happened long after John Wayne came into being famous, I don't think that's really a good comparison. Besides John Wayne's real name was Marion Morrison.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Welcome to myLot! Hey, this is the funniest post I've read yet here, you must be a comic genius! I'm still ROFLMAO over the idea that the U.S. is going to look pretty stupid for electing the biological son of Saddam Hussein because his middle name is Hussein. Whatever comedy skit you were referring to, I must say it couldn't possibly be as funny as you post right here. I think you should send a resume and a sample of your work to SNL and Tonight!
Annie
@CallieWVU2 (520)
• United States
19 Jun 08
I was trying to be a bit funny about him being related to Saddam Hussein, I mean I definitely don't believe it's true.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
18 Jun 08
Well, I will not be voting for Barack Obama. And it is not because of his name. My vote is based upon the fact that I have been reading up on a current bill that he sponsored and is moving through the senate. And in the bill it states that whoever becomes our president will have to "develop and implement a strategy to further the US foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty".
In other words, our taxes will be raised to help end global poverty, in connection with the UN Millennium Challenge Act, and there is quite a bit of controversy over this bill. And we the taxpayers will be paying this.
For some reason people who are for Obama are excited for a change to happen and so far the changes that the bill expresses are higher taxes and again helping end global poverty, which is fine and dandy, but we have our own people who are starving in the streets, people stuck on welfare, etc.
Focusing on issues like his name, religion, and ethnicity only takes away the spotlight from the actual issues that matter and will affect us no matter who is the office after the elections. And I for one want to be an educated voter, and plan to read his books. Because if you get a glimpse of a person's past and see what is currently happening then you can pretty much peek into the future.
To me, actions speak louder than words. And so far I am not impressed with the "time for a change" spin...People ned to remember that not all changes lead to a positive outcome. And his supporters might be the ones who will be complaining the most when and if the bill leads to higher taxes.
Senate Bill 2433
www.opencongree.org/bill/110-s2433/text
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
18 Jun 08
typo on the link, sorry
www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2433/text
@lvaldean (1612)
• United States
19 Jun 08
So in reading the bill, which can also be read in the congressional record where, pray tell do you find any mention of raising taxes?
I know this is the bogey man used by the Republicans regarding this issue. But I want to know where you actually see in the bill itself any mention of burdening the US taxpayer with the reduction of global poverty.
Let me help.
It isn't there. It isn't there because that is not the intent of the Bill.
The Bogey Man of misdirection has struck again. Let me suggest that you reread the bill. There is an intent to find solutions. There is an intent to find venues for trade. There is an intent to find the means to resolve debt, but not to wipe the slate clean. There is intent to offer aid if possible (key words).
There is no mention of burdening the American Taxpayer with additional taxes. Reread the Bill. Please provide factual, paragraph and line of the part of the bill that demands that the next president create a strategy that further taxes the US Taxpayer.
It doesn't. Run from the Bogey Man. But please make sure that it is the right one.
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
19 Jun 08
Well I thank you for checking the link, and I am searching for the Millennium Development Goals and the Challenge Act of 2003 so I can further understand the full facts behind this bill....and I have reread this bill a few times already.
And as for the actual statements requiring the next president....well the opening statement states "To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective by promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 a day."
and in sec 2. (findings) paragraph 7 it states " 'America's national interests and moral values drive us in the same direction: to assist the world's poor citizens and least developed nations and help integrate them into the global economy.'"
Also in Section 2 parapgraph 8 it mentions in reference to Terroists attacks upon the US a stratedy to include economic policies....
paragraph 11 "the us has recognized the need for increased financial and technical assistance to countries burdened by extreme poverty, as well as the need for strengthened economic and trade opportunities for those countries, through significant initiatives....icluding the Millennium Challenge Act of 2003.
My question is what type of assistance will be made if it is not in monetary form? And even if it comes down to any type of aide....doesn't that involve dollars and cents? and won't our own economy be affected by this?
Oh and I do not believe in the bogey man either...I am not a republican, democrat, liberal....
@agladiator (233)
• Bangladesh
18 Jun 08
name is not a factor i think. i vote for obama. the us is not stupid, now a days us is the present hitler in the world. us is more then the hitler. & i think u do know who is the man named "hussein". i'm not talking abt saddam hussein. my suggetion is try find the main man who's name is hussein. he is great man in the earth.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
20 Jun 08
I guess with all of the outsourcing, Bangladesh aquired the right to vote!
@agladiator (233)
• Bangladesh
21 Jun 08
ha ha ha, if america give me an opertunity for there citygenship, i think i ignore it. so i think u get ur ans