Man charged with killing unborn babies
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
United States
June 24, 2008 12:26pm CST
A man accused of shooting a pregnant teller during an Indianapolis bank robbery and causing her to lose the twins she was carrying is charged with two counts of killing a baby, among other charges. Isn't that very similar to an abortion? Sure, it was a stranger who did it, and that person had no right to invade that person's life. However, when a woman has her baby killed by a doctor, that is legal. In other words, it is OK to kill a baby depending on who kills the baby.
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@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
24 Jun 08
First of all, it's counted as a violent act against the woman as she was assaulted, whereas abortion is a consented medical procedure. However, the main difference is the level of gestation. Murder charges are commonly pressed when the gestation is past the point of viability, or at least passed the period of voluntary abortion.
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@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
24 Jun 08
The fetus doesn't see anything. It has no brain, no eyes, no lungs and no awareness.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
24 Jun 08
They always call it a medical procedure, but I bet the baby sees it differently.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
25 Jun 08
It is wrong to kill an unborn no matter what and to do it with the deliberate attempt to kill the baby, as in that back robber (who may have been the father, or may have been hired by the father to get rid of the baby as well as his girl friend) is evil. But would it not be just as wrong to kill a baby with the assistance of the doctor who forgot that Hippocratic Oath, "Do no harm?" or "not to give an aborative device--etc. ' unless he is doing it to save the life of the mother as in the case of an ectoptic pregnancy? After all the days when girls who were pregnant were kicked out in the streets in the middle of winter with a blizzard raging at 40 below are gone. And there are courts that will force the father to pay, adoptive couples, etc. And that baby is not likely to be the next John Gacey, social services, the Church,Pregnancy Crisis Centers, etc. In other words, there is help.
Now if that back robber killed the teller because he was impatient about getting the money, would he not be less to blame? After all, he might have just thought she was fat.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
25 Jun 08
I agree with you! And now people are so quick to look at the elderly as unproductive and not valueable to our society. There will come a time when they too will killed because they are considered useless.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Oct 08
That is what I am concerned with. I am on the way to being one of those elderly people. In a couple of decades, will it be so that I will not want to go to a hospital when I need to, because if I do I will be killed? Thanks for the best response.
@AmbiePam (91947)
• United States
26 Jun 08
This is something that has 'confused' me, and I think it confuses the courts too. I remember once the head of the National Organization for Woman speaking up for a man charged with murdering an unborn baby when he shot the unborn baby's mother. He appealed to them, and they in turn claimed he could not be tried for that because it was a fetus, not a human life. NOW got so much bad press from that that I've not heard anything like that again. It was years and years ago. But I don't see how people can straddle that line. It's the same principal, only one is legal, one is not. Perhaps they comfort themselves with the thought that abortions are sought, getting shot is not.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
26 Jun 08
Amber, very good point! And I cannot understand why NOW would defend a man who did such a thing.
@nelly5 (1424)
• United States
24 Jun 08
Are you saying that this man should not be charged with murder because of abortion being legal?? If so, I don't agree with that (I don't agree with abortion either). This man shot a woman and killed two precious babies. I understand that when an abortion is done, it is also murder but for some crazy reason it is legal as long as a doctor is performing it and as long as it is done within a certain time of becoming pregnant. As for these parents, they were expecting to have two beautiful babies and that was taken from them from some greedy, ignorant person who only thinks of himself. I hope that he is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
24 Jun 08
No, that is not what I am saying. I am saying he should be charged with murder of two babies and also receive the other charges. I am also saying that considering that people can see that he murdered two babies in the womb, why is is abortion OK with so many people. That is murder, too. Yet, so many people understand it and support it.
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@maclanis (2406)
• Belgium
26 Jun 08
You can't possibly expect for this person to be not charged just because abortion is legal... I mean, abortion is mostly committed when a person can't take care of the baby and probably for other reasons as well and those choose to kill their babies. There's a huge difference between these two situations.
@blackmantra_x (2732)
• Philippines
25 Jun 08
good day. there are two sides of the discussion. First doctors do abortion for medical reason and most importantly with consent, the bank robber had neither. 2nd. The robber caused the abortion committing a crime. So I think it's only prudent to charge him with that. Crime does not pay.