McCain's Your Guy? Tell us why. . .
By fiona08
@fiona08 (454)
United States
June 28, 2008 11:51am CST
There are several mylotters out here that post discussion after discussion about the horrors of electing Barack Obama president. Why don't some of you, instead, try to convince us that McCain would be a better choice. You've failed so far at making me, and many others, think Obama is the villain you portray him to be. Maybe you can convince us that McCain will be our hero.
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I think it's telling that the McCain people can go on and on forever with smears against Obama, but when it comes to laying out the virtues of their candidate, they suddenly go quiet, or at least have a LOT less to say. It's Rovian politics at work, and it's a sign of desperation as far as I'm concerned.
If you look throughout history, the majority of the American public has always been on the same side as the Democrats when it comes to the issues. Republicans don't win elections because the most people agree with them--they've been winning elections because they relentlessly smear their opponent with everything they can, truth be damned. And that's all they seem to have--it's pretty clear they KNOW that if they just campaign on the issues without the 'swiftboating', they will lose every time.
Hopefully, the American people wake up and stop letting fear-mongering ("terrorists will attack us again if Obama is elected") and other 'he's-not-one-of-us' nonsense ("Obama's an elitist/Marxist/radical liberal/Muslim/etc.) get in the way of voting for the candidate who's actually got the most on the shelf.
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Can I see that 'arab blood' link? Sounds interesting.
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@fiona08 (454)
• United States
29 Jun 08
You know Clarus, I suspected this would be the case when I started this discussion. There are a handful of Obama bashers, here on mylot, that have made smearing him seem like their life's mission. Mostly, their strongest ammo against him is easily dismissed, by anyone who has a little common sense, and knows the difference between a newspaper and a tabloid. Or a credible website and a video game site (a lovely link posted to prove Obama's percentage of Arab blood, it was great). I didn't think I'd get many responses with any substantive reasons to vote for McCain.
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@gitfiddleplayer (10362)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Hmmm, convince you that McCain is the better choice, well, you've already made up your mind who you think is better suited for the job of pres in the casa blanca. But, I'll give it a shot. First, McCain is not a conservative, he's more of a liberal in Republican clothes. He did bring forth the McCain/Feingold bill that had all his GOP buddies scratching their heads while he scratched the libs backs. I don't condem him for that but if we are playing hangman I've already drawn the head. He's a war veteran and that accounts for his respect of our military, that's where B.O. has none and that's a strike against Mr. Perfect. McCain's stance on the war is touchy, primarilly because he's been in one, he just wants our troops to be safe and finish the job, he gets points for staying with the "mission" but since everybody says the war, mostly the media, is failing, he's seen as an apeaser of Bush. The man was a POW for seargents sake. I think he knows a thing or two about sacrifice and committment. Even if you think its ill guided. He's playing the "global warming" sad song too much, probably to get votes from dems because they would rather hike oil higher just to prove that the spotted owl is more important that cheaper fuel. I don't like his position on that but, he can change the course of history by drilling on our soil and lowering the cost of importing fuel, he's instead trying to spark inguienuity by creating competition to create something that will help us in the long run. Call it a reality show ploy but at least he is offering compensation for free enterprise. I don't see B.O. doing that, the dems hate competition, because they can't compete with it. McCain is no choir boy, I can't change what he's done and if elected he has an uphill battle with the house and senate regarding laws past. The war in Iraq will seem like a walk in the park if he starts to mess with the mess that the dems have created since taking over the senate. If you are looking for a hero in government then don't look to McCain or B.O., they are only elected officials. You need to look in yourself for the greatness this nation is/was/and will be built on. I just think McCain will do a dilligent job of keeping our country safer, I think Obama would rather sit down and try to talk to someone who wants to kill us. Of course they will behead him first and then show it on our TV stations. The people who consider us infidels would have no problem doing that and more. Regardless of who's elected, I'm an American and a conservative, I will never give up my freedoms because that's what makes the U.S.A. what it is. McCain understands what that costs, B.O. just wants to know how much its worth. Its power, pure and simple. If you give it the wrong guy, he'll never give it back.
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@fiona08 (454)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I respect your thoughts on the subject. I don't actually need a hero for president. Obama is the candidate who comes the closest to representing the things I, and many others hold valuable. His liberal views on healthcare, women's issues, and foreign policy, for example, are some of the reasons I will vote for him. I think it is wonderful when people look at real issues in order to decide who they will vote for. Thank you for your response.
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@gitfiddleplayer (10362)
• United States
30 Jun 08
I still won't vote for a junior senator from Chi town especially one with a single page resume. Yes, it does come down to picking the lesser of two evils, but if John Mc picks a decent VP then I'll have hope for a conservative agenda. I said before that I know what McCain is, plus he's too old to change into anything else. I just don't believe that B.O. will keep our country safe, he's a whimp plain and simple. Yes, there is irony, but the dems are the ironic ones. Thanks for a spirited debate.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Fiona,
On a scale of 1 to 10 and 10 being the most liberal and 1 being the most conservative I would rate Obama a 10 and 1/2 and I would rate McCain a 5. I'm going to vote most conservative EVERY time so that is where my vote will go!
On that same scale Hillary would rate as about a 10 and 1/4 so if it came to a vote between her and Obama guess where my vote would go(and I can't stand Hillary)
Obama is selling you people the sizzle and he is refusing to show you what the steak looks like! I can tell you right now, it is a rancid piece of meat!
@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I seriously think that abortion is the ONLY major topic McCain hasn't flip-flopped on.
Frankly, even if I wanted to vote Republican, I wouldn't feel I could trust McCain to 'stay put' position-wise. This is a man who has made it clear time and time again that he is willing to suddenly flip to the other side of an issue if it turns out that's what the people he's currently trying to get votes from like the most. For crying out loud, this is the only candidate I've EVER heard of who is against legislation HE HIMSELF introduced! Even if you agreed with McCain's (current--they might be different tomorrow) positions, he obviously can't be trusted not to suddenly change them with the wind.
I wrote about what I think is the most severe example of this on my blog: http://clarusvisum.blogspot.com/2008/06/reason-not-to-vote-for-john-mccain-9.html (it's reason #10)
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
10 Jul 08
"I'm voting for John McCain because I can sleep at night trusting when he answers the red phone at 3 A.M. any morning of the week he would die before he would sell out his country."
So you're saying he's a zombie, then? 'Cause when I hear he wants to give $1.2 billion a year in tax breaks to Exxon-Mobil, the company with the largest profits in the ENTIRE WORLD, and no tax breaks to the working class who are going extinct because of all the rising costs, the truth becomes obvious:
He's already sold out his country, and himself. Votes now mean more to him than his conscience (how else can you explain him supporting a veto of a bill that bans torture?). Maybe they didn't before, but I'd bet you anything that the McCain of 2000 wouldn't vote for the McCain of 2008.