Religion - a lunatics saving grace?

Evidence of one thing does not mean that thing is true. You have to look for what the majority of evidence supports. There is a bag of hamburger buns and a package of cheese on my table right now. This is evidence that I ate a hamburger for lunch, however, I really ate a sloppy joe. Looking deeper would reveal this to you, because the left overs are in a bag in the fridge.

Unfortunately, its not that black and white. There is evidence that Muhamed existed as a prophet of Allah, and by your reasoning you should belive in Allah as well because it has the same amount of evidence as Christ. I urge you find a better explanation.

Hi again gwamster, After reading some of your comments to others I see you as a lot like myself, in the sense that you are a seeker after truth. Do not stop seeking, there are many new ideas out there. I am convinced that we are spiritual beings having a human experience. I don't think it is really possible for us understand the idea of God in this existence. Jesus Christ gave us some great teachings, especially in what's called, the sermon on the mount. You will note that it deals mainly with how to live this life. I think that should be our main concern. Mahatma Gandhi was quoated as saying, "I could be a Christian, if it wasn't for Christians, they are so unlike their Christ". Blessings.

Hi gwamster, Where are you searching now and what have you discovered? Blessings.

By following my own rules, I mean my own rational rules such as no killing because then that means that I would have to live a lonely life, do not hurt others unless you yourself would want to be hurt, and if you think that it is wrong then it probably is.

I agree with you exept for the last line. By following your own rules, you can make up your own rules and this can infringe on other peoples happiness. As long as you remember that because humanity and nature is interconnected, your happiness relys on the well being of the other beings which share the earth with you.

Religion keep insane people together, that's my point. It's very dangerous. "Sanity in numbers"

Fisrt of all; sorry for the ridicule. As much as you feel strongly about the issue, so do I. If we can both agree that feelings have no part in this discussion, then we can make headway. That also means that to have faith in your heart doesnt mean that God exists, because you 'heart' is full of emotions and feelings which jump around according to situation. There is a bigger picture out there. I would like to ask you something. 1) Can any human be a Christian? 2)If someone is so menatlly ill that they don't have emotions and don't understand what you mean by 'heart', can he/she be a Christian? It means that for this person, sound argument is needed for them to convert, they won't fall victim to emotional tactics which are sometimes used.

I didn't take your question as ridicule so no apology is necessary. This is a legitimate discussion or I wouldn't have responded. "If we can both agree that feelings have no part in this discussion, then we can make headway. That also means that to have faith in your heart doesnt mean that God exists, because you 'heart' is full of emotions and feelings which jump around according to situation." Ok, we can keep feelings out of it but having faith is more than a feeling. It's based on knowledge and observations. Look around the world. Everything in it from the air we breath, to the creation and release of rain, to the oceans, to the plants, to the life on land and in the sea is interconnected. I don't believe that all of that was accidental, it's too coordinated. "I would like to ask you something. 1) Can any human be a Christian?" Any human can be a Christian but that is not to say that every human *should* be a Christian. There are many religions that are just as righteous and true. So, everyone has the ability to believe in a higher power and to live their lives according to their particular beliefs. "2)If someone is so menatlly ill that they don't have emotions and don't understand what you mean by 'heart', can he/she be a Christian?" If someone is so mentally ill that they have no emotions it does not necessarily follow that they are unable to understand things such as acceptance and unconditional love so they may have the ability to understand what Christianity is but may not be able to embrace it. "It means that for this person, sound argument is needed for them to convert, they won't fall victim to emotional tactics which are sometimes used." So, if you're talking about convincing them that God and Jesus Christ are real, yes, there are factual discussions that you could have with this person but, in order to convert, which is a word that you used, the person would need to possess the ability to accept God and Jesus Christ into his life and that would require emotion.

So everyone is right if what they believe is true to them? Am I understanding you correctly? So, as the old example goes, you have no problem with the likes of Mother Theresa, Hilter, Charlie Chapman, Stalin, Osama Bin Laden and of course Micky Mouse, because they all do what they believe is true to them and that's fine. What if they did what they did because they are removed from reality? They did what they did from no reasonable and logical reasons other than selfishness. If we agree selfishness is the base for all our decisions than we will all believe different things. And to prove my point, we won't all believe that our decisions stem from selfish attitudes, because it's not what we want to hear.

The how do you "hear" God's voice in your life if not by an "outside voice" which only you can hear (ie. in your head)?