Islam is the manpower of Roman Catholic??
@vonkristoffer (833)
Philippines
July 1, 2008 12:07am CST
A Jesuit Cardinal named Augustine Bea said that Roman Catholic desperately wanted the Jerusalem at the end of the third century.. then a scheme have been developed to make Jerusalem a Roman Catholic city..
the ones that have great power to this is the children of Ishmael..
Let us see who is the Children of Ishmael..
In the Old testament of the Bible, in the book of Genesis, God choose a man named Abrahan to become the Father of nation..
God promised Abraham a son, but his wife, Sarah was barren. So she offered him her Egyptian handmaiden, Hagar, to bring forth a Child..
Hagar gave birth to a son and called Ishmael.. The Bible says Hagar then despise her mistress (Gen. 16:4)
When Sarah was 90 yrs. old she bore a son named Isaac who was the child promised by God..
Sarah nagged Abraham until he cast out the bondwoman and her son. Sarah wanted Isaac to be the heir. This was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son, Ishmael..
Hagar left with Ishmael, but God told Abraham that this son will become a nation. "because he is thy seed" (Gen 21:13)
In the desert without water, God heard the voice of the lad and sent an angel who told Hagar that Ishmael would become a great nation.
She picked up the lad and saw a well of water that save their lives.
Now Islam claims that Abraham and Ishmael built "the house of God" beside the well (Zamzam) which saved the life of Ishmael and her mother, Hagar.
to make the long story short...
In the Vatican, a wealthy Arabian lady, who was a faithful follower of a pope.. played a tremendous part in this drama.. She was a widow named "Khadijah"
She had given her wealth to "Mother Church" and retired to a covenant.
While there she was given a strange assignment, and sent back into the world..
Her Job was to find a brilliant man who could use by the Vatican to create a new religion and become the messiah for the Children of Ishmael.
This man is Muhammad.
My source.. "The Prophet" published by Chick publications..
what do you think??
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@Gordano (795)
• United States
2 Jul 08
There is no intelligence in Blindly Quoting all lies from web pages to Bring it Here without Thinking for a While about it.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia says that during the time of the Muhammad(PBUH) :
The Hijaz [Arabian peninsula] had not been touched by Christian preaching. Hence organization of the Christian church was neither to be expected nor found.
New Catholic Encyclopedia, The Catholic University of America, Washington D C, 1967, Vol. 1, pp. 721-722.
That is a proof That Arabs in Mecca during The Time of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH Knew NOTHING about Christianity, Let alone to use the Vatican to create a new religion.
That Destroy All Lies in Your Post, Try to Think for a While in The Future Before posting.
Good Luck
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@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
3 Jul 08
^_^
speaking of your source its from the Vatican..
read about Alberto Rivera.. cause this is a testimony...
@avidwhit (1492)
• Mexico
2 Jul 08
With all due respect everyone can Quote whatever record of history they choose Catholic or website and preferably the Bible. Each writter of these histories has their point of view an interests. The truth stands always and easy to see if you really want to and let the Holy spirit and Chirsts love guide you. Bless all love all
and keep up the fight we have a great enemy who controlls his present domain.
@mclendon (308)
• United States
1 Jul 08
I'm not sure what the question is... Why would the Vatican want to create a new religion?
I do know that Jerusalem was part of the Roman Empire in the 3rd century, and that Emporer Constantine was the first Roman Emporer who was Christian and legalized Christianity in Rome. So I'm not sure there was a Roman Catholic Church as we know the institution today and I don't know why Catholics would want Jerusalem when Constantine was on "their side", so to speak.
I have heard the Islam belief that Ishmael was the father of the Arab nations and in that way related to the Muslim faith.
By the way, Constantine was the first to create a Christian State by legalizing and encouraging Christianity within Rome. This is the beginnings of "Christendom", where people in a society may profess to be Christian and may practice the religion because of its social and political advantages, but without being true disciples or adherents in private.
This public practice without private conversion leads to corruption, of course.
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@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
2 Jul 08
Sizi read the description of this topic above.. ^_^
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
1 Jul 08
Hi vonkrisoffer, While your account of the story from Genesis is correct, I am not familiar with the other things in your discussion. I know that both the Arab and Israeli trace their ancestry back to Abraham. According to the story, God sent his angel to Hagar to save both her and the child. The problems between the two peoples began with a dispute between two women, Hagar and Sarah, and has continued to this day. While I don't feel that the two religions are related, certainly the people involved are, if your are to believe the Biblical story. Your post however is very interesting, lets see what responses you get. Blessings.
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@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
2 Jul 08
^_^
just read my comment on mclendon..
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@freethinkingagent (2501)
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2 Jul 08
Well it makes good fiction. The truth is Mohamad spent some time in the company of s Fransiscan monks. This is where he learned about mono-theism and Jesus. He then went back to madina where he instructed his family andclan uin mono-theism. He mistook some of the sayings of christ and other prophacies to mean that it was he that would unite the world into one religion. He bekleived that the Jews and Christains would welcome him as a prophet of God. This is why there is so much diference between his writings in madina verse meca. When he was rejected by Christains and Jews he then went to meca to convert arabia to his mon-theism. By this time his anger with jews and christians is obvious as he starts saying things like kill the jew and christin, lay in wait for them. and other even more violent instrutions to followers. before in medina he wrote about the Jew as saying God gave jerusal;em to the jews forever, and later in his life said in the last days trees and rocks will call out "there is a jew hiding behind me, come and kill him". The Church of Rome will be involved in the last days as an enamy of God and his Christ, and will be delt with saverly
@Gordano (795)
• United States
2 Jul 08
Dear freethinkingagent,
"He believed that the Jews and Christians would welcome him as a prophet of God."
How It Comes That Muhammad Believed That Jews and Christians would welcome him as a prophet of God When He Tell Them Quranic Verses Like:
about The Jews
[002:091] When it is said to them, "Believe in what God Hath sent down, "they say, "We believe in what was sent down to us:" yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what is with them. Say: "Why then have ye slain the prophets of God in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?"
[002:092] There came to you Moses with clear (Signs); yet ye worshipped the calf (Even) after that, and ye did behave wrongfully.
about Christians
[004:171] O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs.
"This is why there is so much difference between his writings in Medina verse Mecca."
I Think You Missed The Point Here, There is Indeed difference between Verses of The Holy Quran in Mecca and Verses of The Holy Quran in The Medina, Because The purpose of Verses In Mecca in to Introduce Islam to People so it is about The Basics of The Religion Of Islam, and after people Knew What is Islam and The Number of Followers increased, Verses of The Holy Quran in The Medina were about The life of Muslims and How They Deal with neighbors, Friends and enemies and How To Deal with Day to day life Problems, Marriage, Divorce, and So On.
"When he was rejected by Christians and Jews he then went to Mecca to convert Arabia to his mono-theism. By this time his anger with Jews and Christians is obvious as he starts saying things like kill the Jews and Christians, lay in wait for them."
The Prophet Muhammad Came Back to Mecca Where The Ka'ba is the holiest site in Islam; the Holy Mosque was built around it and because of it and Muslims are Ordered to go on pilgrimage to The The Ka'ba in Mecca.
The Prophet Muhammad pulled off a diplomatic victory and captured the city without a battle. All measures were taken to prevent a battle. The prophet asked the assembled Meccans: "O people of Mecca, What do you think I am going to do with you?" He continued to the crowd in silence: "There is no blame on you this day. Go to your homes, you are all free." This was a general amnesty for the people of Mecca despite the fact that these were the same people who persecuted and attacked the Prophet and his followers for 20 years.
As for The Jews and Christians or Any one Else,
[060:008] God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loveth those who are just.
[060:009] God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.
I hope That Clarify Something, Good Luck and Best regards
@freethinkingagent (2501)
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3 Jul 08
thankyou gordano, Alway I injoy hearing the other side of a discussion. A one sided discusion does not teach us anything
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
2 Jul 08
^_^
you have your point.. in Chick publication.. it stated their that a monk warned his uncle that he is a prophet.. because of his marked.. and the ones who helped him study is the Vatican (they send and finance him a teachers, to educate him) and the cousin of his first wife.. which is a devoted Catholics..
@moon317318 (692)
• Pakistan
1 Jul 08
well , i think yes.... thats because... prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was because of the prayer of Abraham(PBUH)... He prayed to God that rise a man from his blood (means his generation) which shall be the prophet... like you said.... above
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