Ever wonder why the "Liberal Media" tends to be liberal?
By MrShasta
@MrShasta (15)
United States
July 2, 2008 11:27am CST
As a former journalist, I often took offense to the term "Liberal Media." From time to time someone would ask me, why is the media so biased toward liberal philosophies? My answer? Why do you think?
Believe it or not, it is not some sort of consiracy throughout the media to make conservatives look bad. It's a matter of intelligence, research, and working to understand the working of politics in general. I didn't become a journalist because I was liberal, I became liberal because I was a journalist.
This is not to say that we are getting the whole truth from our news.I mean, we get our information from corporations designed to make profit, that will sensationalize and manipulate the truth to the point that it is nothing more than a fragment of reality.
So I pose the question, do you trust the news you recieve and if you do, who do you trust.
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9 responses
@bravenewworld (746)
• United States
2 Jul 08
Liberal media is only liberal to those that think it's not conservative enough. It's actually conservative to those that don't think it's liberal enough. All depends on your perspective, doesn't it? If your standing at the far right of the political spectrum, main stream media is going to seem liberal, and I guess Fox News may actually seem 'fair and balanced'.
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@bravenewworld (746)
• United States
2 Jul 08
If I recall Noam Chomsky's, "Manufacturing Consent" correctly, mainstream media, considered by some as too liberal, is a propaganda machine for big business, capitalism, etc..
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@MrShasta (15)
• United States
2 Jul 08
I agree completely. Perspective is a lot of it. However, (other than fox news) I generally don't hear people complaining that the media is too conservative. I think it is safe to say that media does take a liberal lean. Right wrong or indifferent.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
2 Jul 08
In my opinion it's all about ratings. The more wicked the political dirt, the more grotesque or horrific a story, the more ratings it gets.
@MntlWard (878)
• United States
2 Jul 08
It's not a liberal media, anyway. It's a corporate media. Corporations generally aren't proponents of a leftist philosophy. It's not like the news media are all owned by Greenpeace.
Anyway, if a person whose viewpoint is far to the right, reality is going to seem biased to the left, and vice-versa.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
2 Jul 08
I take the news I receive everywhere with a grain of salt. While I don't watch a lot of news, I do watch news stations rather evenly. Every now and then I'll watch Fox, occasionally I'll watch CNN, and I'll watch MSNBC if they're talking about something interesting. More often than not, though, I get my news from watching conversations over message boards. I trust getting my news from message boards more because of the well-rounded conversation that most topics get. If someone says something false, someone else can point it out. If for some reason I distrust the source, I can always go hunting for more information on the topic.
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@MrShasta (15)
• United States
2 Jul 08
A grain of salt is a good idea. The biggest issue seems to stem from where the source of our information is coming from, and (more importantly) what we're NOT being told. It can be pretty difficult to point out who is right at any given moment.
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@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
2 Jul 08
I agree. The only way to arrive at trustworthy news is to consult a variety of sources, and ramp up the power of the BS-detector God gave us when we were given intelligence enough to think. Discussions such as these will also help us separate the wheat from the chaff. Too often, politicians go behind the backs of their constituents to achieve their personal goals, and the public only finds out, if at all, when it's too late.
I trusted Tim Russert, but now that he's gone, I can't think of any person of news source that seems to be truly trustworthy. Is this the warning sign that a fall such as what happened to make Rome fall?
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
2 Jul 08
What I found while working in the media myself was that those who came straight from college were still spouting their professors' views - very liberal. And when one is working at a mid-sized newspaper, the only thing the paper can afford are unpaid or little paid interns and new kids out of college. They spend so much time together, that they all start sounding alike.
Thankfully, being a part of the media didn't fry my brain and I was able to continue to be the conservative I was when I arrived.
I did learn to never trust any media, though. I learned that what's supposedly front page news is merely what one editor thinks is front page news. Or is there because the editors "owe" a front page story to a certain reporter. Or it's front page news because the photographers took fantastic pictures.
I learned not to trust the government as well, since my stint at the newspaper was right before and after 9/11. So much went on during that time that was never reported...because the FBI showed up and told everyone to keep quiet.
Today, I seek out all kinds of sources for my news and I decide what to believe from all of them. That's how we should all be viewing news and making up our minds. Sadly, the majority of Americans merely watch the local news - and perhaps the national news - and think the liberal news sources are telling it all in an unbiased way. Balogna butts.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
2 Jul 08
Hello MrShasta,
"It's a matter of intelligence, research, and working to understand the working of politics in general."
Sorry, but I'm going to respectfully disagree. Furthermore, I'll go way out on the line and purport that the overwhelming majority of today's journalists find their liberal views cemented into their psyche as a result of the experiences with collegiate academia, not their field experience!
I've been a guinnea pig of socialist/communist academecians. Fortunately, I survived, because I learned to use their own game against them.
Now to more directly answer your question: As to trusting the news; as in any area of life, there are both terrific and rotten apples. I tend to seek the grain of truth contained within the body of the text, then seek out the rest from contradictory perspectives. Usually, buried somewhere in the middle of the extremes, the truth may be found, if one is diligent.
My typical unravelling of a story begins with Drudge (voted as most balanced by a string of university researchers). Then, I'll hop on over to WND. Then, I check out the polar opposite by perusing the KOS.
If I have my choice, I try to seek out the news before the wires pick it up. It stands more of a chance of being more objective before it is bastardized by every newspaper from Peoria to West Palm Beach.
Though, speaking of the wires: I'm terribly fond of the fact that Matt Drudge makes so many of the international wires available to the public, at no charge. Pravda and The Islamic Republic are two of my favorites for intn'l news.
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@MrShasta (15)
• United States
2 Jul 08
Hmmmm... interesting response. Let's start with the last first.
I love and admire the way you research your information. Take the extremes and meet in the middle. Very resourceful. Very productive. Very Zen.
I did find it interesting that your argument that it is not intelligence, research, etc. that creates a liberal media falls back to acadamia. I would hope that my experiences have influenced my philosophies rather than individuals, but if they were influenced by people, I would hope that it would be academics who, in my humble opinion, base their political philosophies on intelligence, research, and an understanding of the working of politics in general.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
2 Jul 08
Hello MrShasta,
I apologize that I forgot to welcome you to MyLot. I hope that you thoroughly enjoy your time here. It is a fascinating community, with much to offer!
Which leads me to a friendly suggestion: Many members have reported that they are less inclined to respond to a discussion where the Best Response (BR) has already been chosen. So, while I thank you for the BR award, I would offer that you'll likely receive a broader variety of responses if you hold off on choosing the BR. I've noticed that many seem to favor a one week time frame. Anyway, just a suggestion that I hope you find helpful.
Also, thank you for the kind words about my research tendencies.
On to the meat of your reply:
"... academics who, in my humble opinion, base their political philosophies on intelligence, research, and an understanding of the working of politics in general."
Ahh, would that it could be so! Pointing to the wit and wisdom of the cliche: "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." Now to be absolutely fair, there are many, many dynamic instructors out there, with a commanding mastery of their respective disciplines. However, there are also a great many who achieve tenure by the hair on their chinny, chin, chin! To attribute "intelligence, research, and an understanding of the working of politics in general" to such miserable failures is a very generous act of kindness!
I'm reminded of my undergraduate days, where I knew many of the Ed. Students. To say that they were grossly underchallenged would be a serious understatement! I'll also point out that the Education department accepted H.S. students with a lower G.P.A. than any other department! This is not speculation or conjecture -- it's simply fact.
I effort myself to try to always give the benefit of the doubt. Though, experience and interraction soon replace novel etiquette, rendering us able to fairly assess or pass judgement (shudder to think that I would dare to suggest that passing judgement on word and/or deed is other than a mortal sin!).
In the same respect that there are terrific and rotten apples in the world of journalism, so too of the world of academia. If I had a nickel for every lousy teacher or professor that I have ever studied under, collaborated with, or known -- I would be a very wealthy woman!
On a slightly different note: I suspect that you would agree that the world of academia offers an insulation, a protection as it were, from the big, bad world. As such, I tend to believe that collegiate academia has the tendency to draw to itself those who lack to grit necessary to compete in the uninsulated world. This has a tendency to weaken one's intellectual elasticity -- as the realm of the theoretical rarely intersects the world of the practical.
While I am thankful that I have been blessed with a fine education, I am regularly humbled that many of the wisest souls that I have known have had no formal, post-graduate education. Including those who never finished high school, yet were voracious readers, and committed observational analysts.
My point is that academia is certainly no guarantee of intelligence or understanding.
@bravenewworld (746)
• United States
2 Jul 08
I agree, MrShasta. I believe academia generally represents intellectualism, and as such form opinions rationally and intelligently. Nothing conspiratorial or pernicious about that. Anti-intellectualism (and other means off smearing liberalism) is currently more of a problem in this country.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 Jul 08
To be honest, whenever I hear about the so-called "Liberal Media" I feel like screaming! That's right up there with the complaints about "Liberal Hollywood"! I've always thought that what you said probably would explain any liberal bias that may exist, if it exists. Journalists have access to more information than the rest of us do, they often get to know the news makers such as politicians and political candidates up close and personal and are privy to things we're not.
I try to get my news from a variety of sources so I can come up with my own balance. I find it frightening that so many people think they're getting the truth and only the truth from the likes of Fox News and talk radio. I also want to add that I didn't go to college so my liberalism can't be blamed on those evil professors. I've formed my own opinions based on true-life experiences and my own research.
Annie
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@redkathy (3374)
• United States
3 Jul 08
No, I do not trust the news or any media for that matter. Yes, some are better than others, but ALL of them present their opinion as facts. I go to different sources and try to extract the facts from the opinions.
I think the problem with the media is responsibility and truth has become less important and what sells most important! I have no problem with media, liberal or otherwise, expressing their views so long as it is reported as such. These days views are reported as truths. Since doom and fear sell, that's how everything is reported! This sets the tone nationally! For example, residential construction, yeah it's slow, yeah we had a huge boom and will probably never be THAT busy again but houses are still being sold and built. The media said the bottom fell out and everyone in construction going to starve. I even saw a headline that said "This is the beginning of the end"! How did that help anyone but the people reporting?Furthermore, blaming the corporations is bunk! It goes back to lack of responsibility. If journalists want to report the truth, investigate and then report the findings. Differentiate opinions and facts. I wish the media would report the facts, and as many good things as bad things. And stop using "scare tactics" to gain recognition! After all, isn't life all about the good as well as the bad?