do you think Avril Lavigne copied Alanis Morisette?
By aendzie
@aendzie (571)
Philippines
10 responses
@kaguvkov (1318)
• Davao, Philippines
5 Sep 08
Avril has the uniqueness of being a rocking princess. I don't like Alanis actually because of her voice. Compare to Avril I like Avril a lot because of the kind of voice she had and the way she sang every songs.
@1337sam (2)
• South Africa
9 Nov 09
Odd that you should say that because Alanis built her career on her unique voice, sound and insights through her lyrics. I believe the term that was coined through the Alanis revolution of the mid-90s was " stream of conciousness lyrics "... that said, Alanis took grunge and made it accessible to girls and women everywhere, as well as made men sit up and take note of a sexy female who was able to speak her mind, not just for the heck of it, but eloquently too with challenging, intelligent messages - and that is what is important about Alanis' overall style, i.e. it's not just style she relays, but a lot of substance.
So if we were to talk about who the uniqueness of a rocking princess, Avril falls flat because it was barely a few years ago from Avril's break-out into the music scene that Alanis stood out from a sea of female mainstream artists as a young, original rock princess - she has since become the queen of that category, if 'categorization' is anything to go by. Not because of clothes or punk stylings put together by a label, not because of anything she may have been told to say to the media by her managers, not because she is parlaying some cheesy faux-punk attitude, but because of the TRUTH in her music, personality and attitude. Those are precious facets Alanis will always possess. She is one of those rare artists that will not change her spots in a seasonal kind of way, unlike Avril - who's very career is built more on image than anything significant in terms of her contribution to music.
Essentially, Avril copied Alanis shamelessly - most notably in terms of vocal style and a grungy influence. Not only that, Avril has the audacity to brand herself as some original force in music, instead of showing humility and humanity, and referencing the artists who influence her. I am forced to admit that I have no respect for Avril or anyone who displays that kind of behaviour. Especially after female artists who belong/ed to a similar genre worked so hard (and gained a certain measure of success) to bring across messages that made you think, breaking stereotypes for women in the industry. Avril's very being / entity in the pop-scape undoes all that hard work, and it's a crying shame. I would have had respect for her were she able to carry the torch from Alanis and those previous "Lilith Fair" type female artists in a respectful manner, and not let her ego govern everything.
In short, Alanis is the one.
@1337sam (2)
• South Africa
9 Nov 09
Odd that you should say that because Alanis built her career on her unique voice, sound and insights through her lyrics. I believe the term that was coined through the Alanis revolution of the mid-90s was " stream of conciousness lyrics "... that said, Alanis took grunge and made it accessible to girls and women everywhere, as well as made males sit up and take note of a sexy female who was able to speak her mind, not just for the heck of it, but eloquently too with challenging, intelligent messages - and that is what is important about Alanis' overall style, i.e. it's not just style she relays, but a lot of substance also.
So if we were to talk about who is a unique rocking princess, Avril falls flat because it was barely a few years ago from Avril's break-out into the music scene that Alanis stood out from a sea of female mainstream artists as a young, original rock princess - she has since become the queen of that category, if 'categorization' is anything to go by. Not because of clothes or punk stylings put together by a label, not because of anything she may have been told to say to the media by her managers, not because she is parlaying some cheesy faux-punk attitude, but because of the TRUTH in her music, personality and attitude. Those are precious facets Alanis will always possess. She is one of those rare artists that will not change her spots in a seasonal kind of way, unlike Avril - who's very career is built more on image than anything significant in terms of her contribution to music. Avril revolutionized nothing.
Essentially, Avril copied Alanis shamelessy - most notably in terms of vocal style and a grungy influence. Not only that, Avril has the audacity to brand herself as some original force in music, instead of showing humility and humanity, and referencing the artists who influence her. She comes across as little more than a robot upon which has been painted some punk stylings and that has been told what to do and say. I am forced to admit that I have no respect for Avril or anyone who displays that kind of arrogant, self-righteous behaviour. Especially after female artists who belong/ed to a similar genre worked so hard (and gained a certain measure of success) to bring across messages that made you think, breaking stereotypes for women in the industry. Avril's very being / entity in the pop-scape undoes all that hard work that was quilted together, and that's a crying shame. I might have had respect for her were she able to carry the torch from Alanis and those previous "Lillith Fair" type female artists in a respecful manner, and not let her ego govern everything.
In short, Alanis is the one.
@myshoo (138)
• China
4 Jul 08
You said and I also like ah,Avril Lavigne is indeed a very good girls.the girls will be singing,and this is the reason I like her,but you are also very like her!
@greysfreak (1384)
• United States
4 Jul 08
Personally, I don't think that she copied Alanis at all. I am kinda on the border of the generations of these two different singers. Alanis was more adult alternative to me, I first listened to her in my pre-teens/teens. Avril was one of the first female singer that I really respected in a long time, because until she came along there were very few girl singers who I could really respect. I did like some of them, but their songs were like meaningless in my life, they were like the prom queens of pop singers. Then Avril came along a she was a little more like me, she wasn't super girly, she sang about things *I* could relate to. I still think there is room for more than one "angsty" singer out there. Music is about feelings, and more than one person has the same feeling! LOL
As far as who is better, well, I like both.. but these days I would have to go with Avril, but as for who is better in terms of talent, really I think it's a tie in my mind. Although, everyone has their own opinion.
@LordTimber (287)
• United States
4 Jul 08
No, I think Alanis is better. I don't know where they are right now, but I miss their music.
@myusername757 (2)
• United States
5 Aug 08
I don't think Avril even comes close to Alanis. She's a sellout, built entirely on fame. She's getting famous by being famous. Every new CD has new thoughts, new sounds, and a new Avril. For her, it isn't about the music. I think her lyrics are terrible and juvenile and have been from the start, and her entire career is a fashion trend and nothing more. I don't mind that much, this is what Hollywood is about. The music industry has become nothing more than a clothing line and if that is the dream she has chosen to follow, then good for her. No sarcasm. If that's what she wants to be, then it's wonderful that she got to do this.
But Alanis is an artist. Not only are her lyrics the most amazing I've ever come across, her voice is something unique and bizarre that says you like me or you don't without worrying about a fanbase. She is not a label, she is a human being. The fact that she is much older than Avril also has a lot to do with it, I guess. That's the difference between teen rocker and adult musician.
She just released a new CD called Flavours of Entanglement, by the way. And she's going on tour. The short story, she's back. Alanis.com has all the new info.
I also think that girlangst has been around for awhile and whoever showed up first and said, "A girl can sing about more than broken hearts and perfect hair, we have thoughts too," just brought it out. And since then female artists have spoken out against the original BritneyBop and used real voices. And I don't want to even start a conversation about Britney Spears, but I will say that she was one of the last icons of the bubblegumprincess that the music industry created and as women got real voices, she went in that direction too. It isn't a matter of who copied who, but someone started it and now it's out there. Girls with real thoughts and angst-ridden albums.
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Wow, did I just say a lot of nothing or WHAT?
@bianca0531 (427)
• Philippines
9 Jul 08
At first I thought Avril is copying Alanis style. But when I listen carefully to their compositions, I can see that they are truly different.
@agnes_griffins (6)
• Philippines
8 Jul 08
Good day everyone,
I don't think so that Avril Lavigne is a copied of Alanis Morisserte because each one of them has different personality.
Both of them are good and nice person and they have different skills and I guess no one is a copied.
The honor they received is a result of their hardworking and both of them deserved on it.