How People Choose To Go To Hell

Well, would you quit fanning the flames toward north Texas??? Sheesh! LOL!

You are so hung up on your own personal views that you see everything as white or black. Its a shame. As a Pagan I can see all viewpoints, in many different religions. So I guess in this instance we will consider your obsessive need to believe everyone will go to hell as YOUR viewpoint and I won't try to make you see ANYONE else's viewpoint. That would just be pushy now wouldn't it? LMAO

That's a lie... EVERYONE pushes their religious views on others... anytime a Christian mentions anything about the Bible... people claim its pushing a belief on them... yet, Pagans and everyone else do the same exact thing... Nobody forced you to read this thread... and nobody forces you to listen to anyone with a different religious point of view... Why does everyone assume that hell is a threat and not a warning? Is it a threat if the government says, "obey the law or go to jail?" Its the exact same thing... if you choose to break the law, then you have only yourself to blame for going to jail...

Yes, but strayed away. It's not once saved always saved unless you strive toward living for Christ and asking him to forgive you. So called Christians like that give other Christians and God a bad Rep and will have to account for their sins.

Thank you, I really appreciate your response.

well, i'm not Catholic... so that is something you have to ask a Catholic priest... they don't represent me or what i believe in... i don't think every Catholic is like that just because of the actions of a few... at the end of the day, priests are no more special than the peopel that sit in the church... they just have a title that people assume makes them holy...

have u been there? have u seen hell and heaven even in dreams? u can sometimes feel the presence of god and the angels but can u feel hell? I made u crazy couse u think that god punish us if we don't belive in Him. But what if there is a man who lost his fate, no longer belive in God, no longer want Jessus as his saviour but he commits good deeds, he help people, and so on...were is he going?

prove it? you are crazy if you think there isn't...

lol... lets see, God gives us FREE WILL... so if he rejects God and Jesus, why would God FORCE him to be with Him for all eternity? That doesn't sound like love, more like slavery... so based on my belief, he would go to hell, because he didn't want to be with God anyway, but it was still his choice. almost all people know that there is a 50% chance that hell exists... and if they make the wrong choice they could end up there... its the same thing as betting money at a casino... you know the odds, but some people still do it and lose big...

Ok, so you don't believe good people even exist now? There are no "good" people? If thats the case then what would be the point in having a God at all? Let your devil have them all. If there are NO good people, then won't they all end up in your hell? So if thats the case then there is no point in having a heaven is there?

no, there isn't anyone "good" enough to get into heaven... what makes one a good person? what makes one a bad person? stealing is stealing... if a man steals a penny, is he any worse than the man who steals $10,000? If a man joins the army and goes to war and kills hundreds of people, is he a good person? If I kill 1 person to save another person's life, do the two deeds cancel each other out? If I lie to keep a family member out of jail, does that make me a good person? If I think dirty thoughts about someone, but never say it out loud, am I a good person?

Sorry to say, but good people don't exist... everyone sins everyday... The idea of a "good" person is something man makes up to justify to themselves that they can get into Heaven by doing good deeds... A white lie is just as bad as any other lie... stealing a penny is the same as stealing $1,000,000... sin is sin and NO man is without sin... God knows we aren't perfect... and if you sat in church and couldn't figure out why hypocrites can still go to heaven, then you missed the whole point...

Thanks for your nice reply......It is a good discussion,which reminds us our responsibilities,which we have forgotten.

i agree 100%

Since I don't believe in the rules that govern the Christian God, his opinion or views don't really matter to me. I don't believe I'm wrong for me and my life. I don't govern anyone life but my own. I don't believe in hell and refuse to be scared into it. The fact that you are fearful enough to threaten me with eternal damnation just proves my way is right because I have never once had to threaten anyone because they didn't believe as I do. Threats, fear and intimidation should never have to be used to persuade anyone into believing anything.

Do you honestly think that if what you believe is wrong, that God will just say, "oh well?" You don't have to fear God to be a believer. I don't fear God. I respect His power and who He is. The problem is people want to believe that they know what's best, and most are too prideful to submit... If I was God, I'd probably create a hell just for ungrateful people who want all the joy that life has to give, but are too arrogant to even acknowledge my existence... The more people who don't believe in God talk on the subject, the more I understand why there has to be a hell... You freely choose to reject God, so He is going to let you stick with your decision for all eternity...

did i miss something? lol... when did i threaten you with eternal damnation? LMAO...

He doesn't send them. He lets them pick where they want to end up... If God says, go left and you'll get to hell, or you can go right and go to heaven... why is it God's fault if we CHOOSE to go left? He warned us before we made our choice. If you CHOOSE not to believe God, and you don't want anything to do with God, then how is it loving for Him to force you to be with Him if you sincerely didn't want to?

nope... they have to truly accept Jesus as their savior and mean it, then yeah, all is forgiven. people make mistakes and people change... and it also depends on what you consider the worst thing ever. some people consider torture worse than murder... and some vise versa... so who's to say what is worse than the other? only God can be the judge of that.

i'm guessing someone around here can prove that people created heaven and hell?

If someone could prove heaven and hell exist, then maybe.

*If someone could prove heaven and hell exist, then maybe.* i absolutely agree with you, lavender *'m guessing someone around here can prove that people created heaven and hell?* there is even no proof of the existence of heaven and hell. maybe you can refer to the bible or other scriptures. that is not proof. you just assume that the bible is true, as it is the words of god. btw can you prove that the bible is the words of god? don't worry, nobody can do that. the bible is written by human.

people have a misunderstanding about predestination. knowing the future doesn't mean that it is set in stone. God may have a purpose in mind that you CHOOSE not to follow. Personally, there have been many times that I've been in many different churches and someone random will walk up and tell me that I'm supposed to be a preacher. It was strange at first because none of these people knew me, but all said the same thing, seperately, over years. Well, I'm not a preacher. I've had dreams, and a close relationship with God, but not a preacher in the traditional sense. Again, I'm assuming they meant traditional. But the point is, you can CHOOSE not to follow your predestined plan, if that was my plan.

You assume I haven't read "the whole thing." You would be wrong. Your response to my comment is pure balderdash. Your presumptuousness is both judgmental and arrogant. You posit that all those who believe and practise a faith that is different from yours are off to hell in a handbasket. There is nothing about your attitude that promises "good news" or invites conversation with others of goodwill. By the way, in case you failed to notice, Jesus spent his entire life as a practising Jew. Christianity is the religion about Jesus, not of Jesus, and it has dismissed much of the faith he followed as irrelevant. If you are interested in the whole Bible, you might start with the Law, which Jesus preached as a necessity. I wonder if you follow that Law to the letter--honoring the Sabbath and keeping it holy, as he did? following the prescribed dietary laws, as he did? Also, when you take the entire Bible literally, as you seem to do, you find all sorts of contraditions. The genealogies of Jesus by Matthew and Luke, for example, differ radically. The Bible is full of enigmas. Your certainty of your own absolute knowledge and your narrow vision represent just the sort of pharisaism that Jesus so often railed against. Yours is just the type of rhetoric that drives people of faith away from houses of worship. Thus, in the final analysis, it is counterproductive, keeping away those you would attract. You might consider that next you launch into one of these crusades that you present is public service announcements.

another assumption... i take the literal parts to be literal, not the entire thing... Jesus was a practicing Jew, but He also did things that practicing Jews didn't do, like heal on sunday... The Bible says, "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting lif: and he that believeth not on the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 3:36 I don't recall the Bible telling people to sugar coat the message, so why should I?

you assume i'm "religious" and telling someone they are "hell bent" is not judging anymore than telling someone that the they will die if they jump from a plane with no parachute... the Bible also says, "go ye therefore and teach all nations..." its not just referring to the good parts, or the parts you want to hear, but all of it... the entire book, and it teaches that you will indeed go to hell... so you might try reading the whole thing before selecting parts that you think fit your position. just some advice for you to try on for size.

exactly...

The good news part comes in that fact that you don't have to go, according to what we believe. That's the good news.