A Serious View Of Police Efficiency In The UK, With A Humorous Twist!
By Darkwing
@Darkwing (21583)
July 5, 2008 7:40am CST
On Wednesday, I was convinced there was a serious accident on the A272, owing to the glut of police, ambulance and fire engine sirens, in the early evening. Sure enough, there was an accident, but way out past the Horsham - Worthing main road, so emergency vehicles from this area probably wouldn't have been required.
About an hour went past, and there were still vehicles moving up and down the Street in the village. I was due to go to the pub to sort out a dart team's registration, so I finished getting ready, met my neighbour and went off down. Whilst there, I was told of two dark guys who had been hanging about at the bottom of the church steps opposite the pub, presumably with weapons in their hands. In the light of so many recent stabbings and killings in the UK, England particularly, the police had been called... but wouldn't you know it? They arrived too late, and never did find these two guys. We have no police in the village, the nearest being some 41/2 miles away, and this was during the evening rush hour. Policing is bad these days and the government is still making cuts, despite increasing taxes.
Now, here's the twist... I can relate this, because I've been in the village a long time and know what goes on regularly, but those who haven't been here too long, wouldn't relate it at all. Once a month, there are two or three door-to-door sales guys who come down in a mini-bus, spend the day trying to sell their wares, and then often go into the pub at about 4-4.30 for a drink and to wait for the mini-bus to pick them up. They each have a big holdall, and they each carry their mobiles in their hand at all times. At least one of them is a dark guy... a very pleasant guy, from Leicester. Normally, after a half hour or so, they're picked up outside the pub and driven back to the Midlands. Well, I think that these guys were mistaken for weapon-carrying strangers, when all they were doing was, instead of going in the pub as usual, they were waiting to be picked up at the bottom of the church steps with mobile phones in hand. Because they were apparently just "hanging about", they were mistakenly identified as trouble-causers, and the police were called by people who don't know them. I saw one of the guys knocking doors across the road earlier in the day, so I'm pretty sure I'm right!I'd like to ask what the policing is like where you live, and have you ever had any strange occurrences, or cases of mis-identity like this occur?
Do you think this was a worthless exercise and a waste of police time, or a safeguard against a potential crime, and what can be done to improve public safety in the UK, or where you live? There are all too many violent crimes and killings these days, and all because of government cut-backs. We pay our taxes despite the cutbacks, so should we be allowed a say in our policing policies? Your views, please?
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@Wizzywig (7847)
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5 Jul 08
Both our police station and fire station have been closed in the last few years. The police now have rooms in the Town Hall which is open Mon - Fri , 8.30 - 5.30 (make that 4.30 on a Friday) and 9-12 on Saturdays. I live next door but one to a pub and, when we first moved here it was quite common to see a police car parked up across the road late on Saturday nights. Lately, the only place I've seen them is at the roundabout on the bypass at the edge of town. They are introducing a 'curfew' on youngsters out after about 10.30pm because of the increase in violence and vandalism. We are currently paying more than one tenth of our total household income in Council Tax.
Sounds like you're probably right about it being the salesmen - shows how cautious we've become - sad that we have cause to be eh?
@Darkwing (21583)
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5 Jul 08
Yes, I know where you're coming from. We have only one police station now, to serve many communities, and they're stretched to the limits. Our hospital has been downsized as well, and will eventually move to a hospital some fifteen miles away, in Brighton, thus becoming a cottage hospital... but guess what? They plan to build a supermarket on the site!!! It's all about government funding these days, my friend... to heck with Joe Public!!!
I think the curfew on youngsters might help a little in controlling vandalism and street crime, but not a great deal. They're not all under eighteen... far from it, but as you say, caution sometimes reaps rewards, or is justified, at least.
Brightest Blessings and thank you for your contribution.
@Wizzywig (7847)
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6 Jul 08
I've just read that the council have overspent on refurbishing the staff showers at their offices because of drainage problems ... they budgetted for £20k but its actually cost £20.5k That would explain why they couldn't afford to let me hang onto enough of my wages to have the spare cash to get MY shower fixed. Do you think they'd let me use theirs?? I'd take my own soap and towel...
@Darkwing (21583)
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11 Jul 08
Ha ha ha! Don't they have a shower at home? They're already supplied with a gym and all mod cons, plus a social club in each station, so what gives here? Are they not working class, just like us? You go girl! Take you gel and towel down there and stay in the shower for a good half hour!
@littleowl (7157)
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11 Jul 08
I agree with you Darkwing...the lack of police nowadays is ridiculous-it must of worried you a bit vandalism etc is so much on the rise here in billingshurst where I live there is more and the police always are late when needed there is just so much a shortage of them-I blame the government for not looking more in detail at this and yes maybe we should start taking the law into out own hands by catching these criminals in our areas then turning them into the police-but a big BUT would we get paid for it? I don'think so!! blessed be littleowl
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@Darkwing (21583)
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11 Jul 08
Yeah, right. I'm going to risk my life making a citizen's arrest while they're in the chippie or burger bar buying their supper. We never get the police here in under twenty minutes and if they don't think it's important... which decision they seem to take on their own bat... they'll be over half an hour. Sometimes, if they don't deem it an urgent call, you have to wait until the next day. We pay community taxes for the service, my friend... let's see some service, for goodness' sake, before our younger generation is depleted so much that the population plummets!
Brightest Blessings my dear friend and thank you for your contribution. xxx
@littleowl (7157)
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11 Jul 08
Oh no my dear Darkwing I didn't mean you to do such a thing but have seen a documentry that a small village near birmingham actually got the men together and they drive round keeping an eye out for vandals etc, and actually take them by citizens arrest handcuff them and take them to the nearest police station-the law didn't recognise it as policing and the people in the village didn't get paid for it they just did it off their own back...that's what I was meaning its definitly not a job for us women!!! bright blessings my dear friend littleowl
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
6 Jul 08
yes research also shows that when the economy is down, and people are out of work, no money etc, crime goes sky high. It sad but it is true, wish we all could live in a society where everyone could have just want they need.
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@mummymo (23706)
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6 Jul 08
Oh I do hope that is all it was Darkwing my friend and by what you say it sounds very probable that it was. It may have been an overreaction from whomever called the police but I think when they have had such a report it cannot be considered a waste of time for them to investigate so heavily as if there really was a problem and someone was injured or killed you can bet that they would get the blame! I know that the Police have good and bad amongst their number as does any other profession. I also know that they have more and more red tape to follow , more paperwork for every little thing they do and a much wider responsibility in far more areas than ever before and they are criticised for much that they can do nothing about!
Policing here is pretty good even though if you report you car stolen from a public place chances are they will not even come out to it - just take the details and put them on a computer and give you a crime number! I think the best police force I have ever come across were the Garda In Ireland when I lived there - they really went out of their way to help people!
I do think we should have a say in the way our police force is run sweetheart but like anything else there are such a huge range of opinions that would it really do any good?
Hugs xxx
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@Darkwing (21583)
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6 Jul 08
I understand that they're busy and that they can't come out for every little call, my friend. The fact is, we keep paying increased taxes which we can ill afford, for the service, and the government's few "good" men make all the decisions about cutting back on our services, despite the rise in taxes. Therefore, I feel that we should have more say in what goes on. They don't hesitate to take on board what immigrants say for instance, but those who have been born here and paid taxes all their working lives suffer, because they're too busy with other things. How many cops do you see laying in side roads beside motorways and such, trying to pinch a few pennies from speeding motorists and the like? They're so laid back these days, I can't help wondering where it's all going to end. Meanwhile, young kids are dying by the dozen. Sorry... I'm a bit overboard here... I realise that... but all the money that's spent on CCTV cameras and such, while the police sit in their offices or chase petty motorist fines, irks me!
Brightest Blessings, my dear friend, and thank you for your constructive contribution. xxxx
@raydene (9871)
• United States
11 Jul 08
Honey you shouldn't get me started.
Our police force are all local guys that are related to
half the town so ofcourse people get away with too much
until bad things happen then we get rid of the police
officer..and the cycle starts again.
xoxoxoxoxoxo
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@Darkwing (21583)
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11 Jul 08
Now, that's what I call a really sorry situation, my friend. It shouldn't be allowed to happen. Surely the records show that they're not doing their jobs properly, and perhaps they should be drafted to another town.
Brightest Blessings and thank you for your contribution, my dear friend. xxx