why did no woman write even just a single word in the bible?
@sutanhartanto (4122)
Indonesia
July 8, 2008 12:32pm CST
i have no clue about the old testament. they are likely anonymous works. but in the new testament, all the authors are male. you know: matthew, mark, luke, john, paul, peter, judas,....
can you imagine that mary magdalene, mary the mother, lazarus' sisters and other women in that time wrote nothing about their wonderful experiences and life with the presence of jesus?
i know that the church did selecting the content of the bible. what actually happened? no women's works exist or the church select none of them to be the content of the bible?
what do you think?
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@paroloza (140)
• United States
8 Jul 08
Because the books of the New Testament were written in the 1st century C.E. Very few women (upperclass) had access to education. Greek especially liked to keep their daughters and wives ignorant, and at the same time, they despised them for their ignorance.
Jewish women -although they were considered with more dignity- were mostly peasant, or, in the cities, occupied with taking care of the household. Their society was dominated by the scribes and priests class, and a woman pretending to teach men would have been considered acting agains nature. There were still some women who felt free enough to follow Jesus and to support his ministry with their donations (Luke 8:1-3).
That there are only male authors is definitely a matter of the historical and social circunstances, and no sign of hostility against women.
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@sutanhartanto (4122)
• Indonesia
9 Jul 08
hi paroloza,
thx for the interesting and thoughtful views. maybe you right that it's because of historical and social circumstances. i just wonder that why even mary magdalene wrote nothing. do you think it is because she was illiterate?
@rebeka (364)
• Romania
8 Jul 08
u better ask why there is no gospel written by a women in the bible. Have u heard of Mary Magdalen gospel? I think not....I saw an document on Discovery on how a man decided who from the gospels should be included in the bible and he said if there are four cardinal signs there sould be 4 gospels. But among the apocryfical gospels are also the gospel of Mary and Maty Magdalen.
@paroloza (140)
• United States
8 Jul 08
Well, you should not believe everything you see in TV. The formation of the Canon of the New Testament was a matter that lasted over centuries. No man alone did decided about what books will be included. Also, in that time, between the first and fifth century, the concept of "cardinal signs" - which is used in astrology!- did in no way interfere into the selection of the canonical books.
The very few pieces that exist of the apocryph gospels of Mary and Mary Magdalen, that you mention, show clearly why those writings (dated probably at least a century after the two Mary's life), were not approved, as were'nt the gospel of Thomas or the gospel of Peter, either. There is of course no prove that those two former gospels were written by woman.
@sutanhartanto (4122)
• Indonesia
9 Jul 08
hi rebeka,
i tend to believe that mary magdalene wrote something. if not a gospel, at least she wrote her personal experiences with jesus. you know, many people has a blog now. even if they get their hair cut, they will post it on their blog. maybe the circumstance during jesus presence and now is much different. but i can't imagine that a woman who got such a wonderful experiences wrote nothing about that.
thx for responding
@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
9 Jul 08
How about Bunda Maria? the mother of Jesus?
the saints? are they not in the bible too? Joan of arch? How can this be?
@sutanhartanto (4122)
• Indonesia
10 Jul 08
hi diansinta,
thx for taking time to be here
well, mary the jesus' mother and some of the saints was mentioned in the bible. joan of arch are not there, since she live after the bible was written.
what is not there is mary's, mary magdalene's, and other women's works. i wonder it because they wrote nothing of the church select none of their works to be included in the bible. thx for responding
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@Elixiress (3878)
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9 Jul 08
I think it is the same reason that women did not write anything until the modern day, they did not have the rights and were seen as inferior. You never know that Matthew, Mark or Luke etc were not woman, because many woman did write but published it in the name of a man, so that they could publish it.
@sutanhartanto (4122)
• Indonesia
15 Jul 08
hi elixiress,
that an interesting thought that Matthew, Mark or Luke etc are possibly women. i won't say it is impossible. thx for responding
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
9 Jul 08
i think they wrote it but it was thrown out.. there are a lot of books that they didnt include and mary magalene was rumored as one of them.. since women werent valued as much it seems back then they prob thought it wasnt of importance
@sutanhartanto (4122)
• Indonesia
9 Jul 08
hmm, maybe you are right. i just wonder what criteria they used to decide which works should be included in the bible, and who gave the authority to select it. thx for responding.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
i would like to know how they chose too.. who gave whomever the power
@baileycows (3665)
• United States
8 Jul 08
I have never really thought about it, but I am sure it has something to do with women not speaking.
@Pitgull (1522)
• United States
9 Jul 08
I cannot for one second believe all these women never opened their mouths. I have never had a problem with opening mine and stating when things are unjust and I will not stand for them. I will not be a part of something that blatantly disregards women...
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@keep_onwatch (2680)
• India
11 Jul 08
I dont have the exact idea, but as far as i can go, its beacuse the chosen ones, have to be undefiled, without the pleasures of this world, they would be virgins, and die preaching the good news. So i dont think any of the ppl were at that time, none of the women you mentioned, except apostles of jesus christ, who followed him just like him.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
9 Jul 08
Hi sutanhartanto, It is for the same reason that the apostles of Jesus were all men. Women were only considered to be a man's property in those days. Most women had little or no education. There were books written in the early days of Christianity that were not included in the Bible. Probably some of those were written by women. Blessings.
@sutanhartanto (4122)
• Indonesia
9 Jul 08
hi pose123,
regarding the apostles, i think it because of practical reasons. to spread his teaching, jesus need to be always moving. he didn't stay in a certain place. he is "nomad". maybe he consider that the kind of lifestyle is not suitable for women. i don't know. thx for responding
@Margajoe (4747)
• Germany
9 Jul 08
Hi,
Good question.
Though I think most has to do with the fact, that a women had no time left over to learn how to read.
There were no washing machines and stoves to cook on, like we have now. They probably even made there own cloths. Looking after all those children, because there was no birth control.
It was a hard life for a women.
And there are other book rolls.
The Church has kept them secret, I believe they are in Rom . These book rolls are kept secret because the church does not want us to be too wise.
I believe the truth is that God Loves all of us , no matter what.
Weather a person is homosexual, married or just living together,a child is born illegal and has no parents. I believe God loves you unconditionally.
No matter what religion you claim to have.
There is a lot of beautiful ,wonderful details being kept from us. All because the church does not want to lose power.
Is is sad!
Take care, Margajoe
@posham (1236)
• Philippines
9 Jul 08
because the era when the bible was written was a male-dominated one. so if ever a woman will take account of what happened during Jesus's days, i don't think anyone would pay attention. Plus., those people are His desciples... aside from mary magdalene, i can't think of anyone else who traveled with him.
@tamarafireheart (15384)
•
9 Jul 08
Hello sutanhartanto,
Well I personally think women were thought to be unclean because of their monthly cycle and also they are treated as second class ciztens and ofcourse they cannot read and right. Men always thinks it a man world and I don't think everything in the bible is true, men make stories as they go along.
Tamarafireheart.
@sutanhartanto (4122)
• Indonesia
10 Jul 08
hi tamarafireheart,
i don't find any relation between monthly cycle of women and the uncleanness. i think the monthly cycle is a noble nature of a woman. yes you right that not all things in the bible is literally true. thx for responding
@babyfirefighter (568)
• United States
9 Jul 08
Have you ever though about how the bible is inspired works of GOD? Maybe god only wanted the men to write the books.
@sutanhartanto (4122)
• Indonesia
15 Jul 08
hi babyfirefighter,
i don't think god has preference regarding gender. thx for responding