Christopher Howard Breakthrough to Success - what is it?
By Wizzywig
@Wizzywig (7847)
July 8, 2008 6:04pm CST
Please note: This is not a spam - I dont know anything about them other than seeing it advertised.I'm just curious.)
Has anyone ever attended one of these events? I've seen them advertised and am curious as to whether its a pyramid selling thing or one of those creepy things where they lock you in and make you feel worthless before building you up so you feel forever in their debt ...or maybe its a really useful experience. Anyone know??
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@colourfuldude (1)
• Australia
30 Aug 09
Hello, its been a year since this last post, but it is obvious that Chris Howard is going strong as i just attended some of his 3-day free "Breakthrough to Success" seminar in Melbourne, Australia.
First off, we were introduced to Chris's right hand man. The first challenge we were faced with was finding 5 strangers in the crowd and going up to them and acting as if we were long lost friends who hadnt seen each other for a while. Very frightening but it got the enrgy levels way up(fear will do that...ever scared each other with stories until any noise in the house got you shaking...remember what the energy level was like) well, this is what happened. Then we went on to high fives with complete strangers every five minutes and repeated a mantra like, "I want this course," "I need Chris," "I love Chris," and so on. They then introduced a game where a person from the crowed was selected and they could win one of his packs or courses($000's of dollars worth) so every one went crazy with excitment. So they did a very good job of raising everyones energy levels.
In fact, this is what i believe there main strength was. Getting everyone to feel good and energised. And intermittently, we would have to scribble down some notes in a book on something we found fault with ourselves with. And then share it with someone. This made you feel inadequate and unsuccessful for the moment, but at the same time, it made you bond with the strangers. All of this created a sense of belonging. And once that happened, you felt the extreme peer pressure to behave exactly the way the crowd was behaving. If you were told to scream that you love Chris, you did it. If you had to dance like a chicken(which we were told to do) you did it. And if you thought about not doing it(which any individual person would) you felt a greater shame about being the "black cloud" amongst the sun filled crowd. So you went along with it. And the more you went along with it, the more you believed it and lost your indentity
Unfortunately for the Chris Group, there are lunch breaks, and the real world creeps back in, and after seeing the REAL sunlight of the day, i was struck by the absurdity of it all, especially once Chris finally made it to the stage. (Not being personal, just saying my first impressions), he looked like a used car salesman. Wasnt as enthusiastic as i thought a guru would be, had a great voice(reminded my exactly of Anthony Robins voice), and overall, looked quite normal. (didnt have that X-factor we look for in leaders).
So im at this confrence looking for NLP improvement techniques. It goes for three days: from 9am to 11pm Friday, 9am to midnight on saturday, and 8am to 8pm Sunday. I guess there would be a lot of techniques taught and cutting edge stuff as they said they had. Well, there wasnt. For the one day i was there. The two bits of NLP he taught were concepts which were so old and basic that you could find it in any old NLP book. I actually went to the state library the day before to read up on NLP and the book i chose was about using NLP on a large crowd. The techniques Chris was using to wow us was classic text book stuff. "let the crowd finish sentences," "have inspiriational posters or posters of what you want to convey around the building," "find the values of the audience and then create anchors for them," etc etc. So, as i said ealrier, the best thing they did was using these techniques to make us part with our money.
I left at about 4:30pm on the first day. I went back the day after for an hour to see how everyone was going. The crowd went absolutely crazy when they introduced the game they play each day to win a course. The talk had nothing to do with techniques, but subtle and not so subtle ways to hype the crowd, generate a mob mentatlity, and like you all said earlier in others posts, make you feel incomplete, promise you the completeness, and then dangel it infront of you. I believe they actually never make you feel complete because the only place to find it is on the inside, and from within, and that they do not do this because what they offer is all external fillers.
If you are thinking of going to the 3-day breakthrough to success seminar, then go for a laugh and an insight into how Hitler used the same techniques to instigate his corruption(i really believe this).
And ill end the post with the same analogy i gave to a few friends once i had left:
"Chris Howards enterprise is like the Casino. They promise you wealth and riches, but in the end, the house always wins."
@Wizzywig (7847)
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31 Aug 09
I did go... and lasted till lunchtime on the first day. I went with my son and we had several disapproving glares during the last half hour or so when people started going wild in the aisles because they'd "won" a copy of Chris's book....for, well... going wild in the aisles. We didnt go wild... we commented on the way people were doing exactly what they were told and remained seated when they told us to jump up etc. The booklet did make us think a bit and the hugging strangers was ok ... but some of them turned out to be stranger than they appeared I certainly wouldn't have paid for the book, the course or anything else on offer... though we did sit in Pizza Hut afterwards and have a good laugh. We said it would be good to go with a group of mates to heckle.... Thanks for sharing your experience!
@Wizzywig (7847)
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20 Dec 09
Wow, I am really sorry to hear of you awful experience with this!! I am so glad we walked away... tho' to be honest, I think we would have been ejected by security if we'd stayed much longer as we were disagreeing and getting disapproving looks. - thanks for your input here I hope you will be able to get through the damage its caused
@yahaha (1)
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20 Dec 09
Hi
I've done BTS twice, and crewed there once and also done his course Design your Destiny. My husband has done all that and also NLP Results and his Platform & Presentation skills. While I love some of Chris Howards techniques, and how he really gives you the tools to learn something about yourself, to challenge yourself and make goals... it has really thrown a spanner in the works in my marriage. My husband went into debt, borrowing money from 'friends' he had made from the course, without checking with me, just so he could 'step up' - as told by the chief presenter of one of the CH courses he attended.
After BTS, he came home totally screwed up in our relationship, saying he wasn't sure he was in love with me (things were fine before!!) and was totally messy. We have three kids and it totally has left a bad mark in our r/ship. There was no follow up/help/advice from the BTS people who really just told him to 'step up' and 'be a man' if he wanted to do the courses...basically, get into debt so you can pay us money. I'm not a fan on the whole because while they do present great tools (if you do the course), there is a lot of undue force/pressure to do other courses.
If you do go, make sure you have the money to do the courses before you go...because you will WANT to do his courses.
@Samanthavv (1380)
• United States
10 Jul 08
I've never ever heard of that program, but odds are you should stay away from it. So many of those things are scams and just ways to prey on people who desperate for solutions. I would steer clear!
@robida (1)
• Australia
23 Aug 08
well, as of tonight, im half way through a 3 day seminar (okay, so 2nd day is complete) from this Chris guy in Perth Australia. I got a free invite and was curious. I'm now googling the web to see what other people have thought before I go back for my final day tomorrow. This is the first site with any comments i've read about it. So i thought i'd add my own if you're interested.
My experience so far is a mixture of good great and boring. The good is that the guy does present his own stuff, its not franchised out (he's american). The great is that the techniques for life coaching (and that's essentially what it is) does seem to be based on his own mixture of real, recognised techniques such as Neuro Linguistic Programming etc. And the presenter, Christopher, is pretty charismatic and entertaining.
The boring was that while there are some good activities and excercised which help some people get at their own little niggling (and some not so niggling) problems, a fair chunk of the weekend seems also to be trying to upsell the crowd into more advanced courses with the promise self fullfillment bla bla, but are super expensive ($10,000+)
I heard the comment that they kind of make you feel crap before elevating you up so you think that you are forever indebted to them. Maybe a little, yep. But its more a recognition that everybody has a little skeleton in their closet that they'd probably rather not have because its holding them back in some way and the stuff they go through can help with that.
So take the claims of rags to riches with a grain of salt and put up with the sales pitches about "advanced courses" and its not a bad weekend. I think i'm taking it as a way to get introduced to some concepts I've heard before like self hypnosis, and NLP (like they use in "the game"), so I can go away and do my own further research on the bits i found interesting. Better than paying through the nose for an advanced course of theirs.
that's my view so far... might tell u more tomorrow if something suddenly changes my view.