Republishing your articles to get more money?
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
Singapore
14 responses
@DreamOn01 (146)
• United States
10 Jul 08
It really depends on the site, and it's terms and conditions. On AC, I believe you can republish articles you have published before as long as you submit them as nonexclusive without upfront payment. Obviously they prefer original content not only because of the plagiarism issue, which is a really big problem, especially on the web, but if I'm not mistaken, duplicate content lowers the search engine rank for the article/content as well.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
13 Jul 08
Ah... Search engine ranking is another important consideration. But I recently encountered sometimes taking my article wholesale without my permission and place it in their website. I guess, the search engine ranking is already lowered. But this is another problem I face.
@DreamOn01 (146)
• United States
14 Jul 08
Ouch! Having content stolen is something many writers have to deal with, especially writing when writing for the web. It's easy to do, and many writers don't think to check for it (I know I didn't, and I'm still not as vigilant as I should be). Perhaps you can report it to the site you are writing for. They may have a cease or desist letter for whoever is doing this.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
19 Jul 08
I can try but I doubt they could do anything much about it because Triond merely gets first right to publish it on the web. I don't think they would care less if someone else copied it after that. You're the second person who suggests this. Maybe I should write to them afterall.
@choudhary03 (943)
• Hyderabad, India
10 Jul 08
Complex question it all depends upon the sites terms and conditions. Lets say you published an discussion in mylot and you want to use it else where for which mylot should give you permission it has copyrights once you publish. Similarly a person holding copyright for content can publish his article any where any number of times.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
10 Jul 08
I'm quite a complex person as well...
Anyway, I got this from the Terms of Service at Triond. It is mentioned under Author's Rights. It said, "You shall continue to retain all authorship and Copyrights to the Materials submitted for publication through the website." Does that mean it's okay?
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@compumom (738)
• United States
10 Jul 08
As a matter of habit, I tend to re-write the article to post it elsewhere. Since the research is already done, I figure, why not test my creative ability too see how many ways I can use the same information to make money.
All of the articles have a different slant. Once you do the first one, it's easier to get into the flow.
Finally, if I really like the topic and it's pertinent to my blog, I re-write it with a bit more information and place it on my blog.
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@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
10 Jul 08
That's a good idea. I do that sometimes, creating a shorter version of my articles for my blog. Thanks for your suggestion.
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@paid2write (5201)
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10 Jul 08
If you try to submit to Triond an article or an image that has appeared anywhere else, even on your own blog, it will automatically be rejected by Triond. If it is already published by Triond I think it would get deleted by Triond it the same article was to be published on another site.
Helium, HubPages and AC have different rules.
I think it's good advice to rewrite your articles before submitting anywhere else. I have read that search engines don't like duplicate content and will give it a lower ranking than original content.
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@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
12 Jul 08
I usually submit my articles to Triond first, then I would consider Hubpages if the articles get rejected.
I would have to consider rewriting afterall.
@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
13 Jul 08
If you have not given away your rights, you are free to republish anywhere that accepts reprints. The work is legally yours.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
19 Jul 08
Thanks for your response. I think so too. I think I have the rights to publish it elsewhere. Triond might not be too happy about it though.
@bluespace (132)
• Canada
13 Jul 08
It depends on whether or not the content was posted exclusive or not and the agreement that was in effect when you posted, and possibly when you make the change.
if it was exclusive then it's probably not a good idea
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
19 Jul 08
Thank you for your response. It's definitely not exclusive, so I think it's fine afterall.
@peaceful (3294)
• United States
10 Jul 08
Most of the time, the filters on AC won't allow this unless you revise a subtantial portion of your article... I am a member of HubPages, and I haven't hoticed this over there yet. I have some stuff on Helium, but it's all orginal...
Keep in mind that these sites all want orginal and unique stuff that is without the risks of plagerism.
If you want to maintain the protection of your own work, be sure that you post it on the stricter sites, and then save copies of your updated and revised stuff like a Miser Gone Wild! :)
It is very legal to submit revised and updated article of you own original work. The websites that you submit to will always have the option of acception or rejection anyways! :)
Here's a few laughs from my one and only Triond submission, so far:
http://www.authspot.com/Short-Stories/Jennifer-the-Opossum-Lays-Down-the-Law.152975
And some Writer's resources from my Apsense articles:
http://www.apsense.com/article/119073.html
Have fun, and I hope that my answers will provide you with a useful guidance and comfort, as you navigate the roadways and rivers to reach that stunningly brilliant combination of both Fortune and Fame! :)
In other words, have an excellent day! :)
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
11 Jul 08
Thank you for your insightful response! I have not heard of Apsense though. What's that?
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@Sillychick (3275)
• United States
13 Jul 08
Depending upon the terms of each site, it can be ok or not ok. Helium writers retain non exclusive rights to all of their work, and at AC you have a choice to make each article exclusive or non exclusive.
I have published a few of my AC articles on Helium, since there are different audiences and it helps increase my earnings at each site. I do not write for Triond but I have heard they require writers to publish a piece there first, and then they are free to publish it elsewhere since the writers retain their rights to their work.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
13 Jul 08
I see that people are moving articles from Helium to AC and vice versa. Anyone out there have moved their Triond articles elsewhere?
@snowy22315 (182007)
• United States
10 Jul 08
I think that would definitely be frowned upon. If youw ere discovered you would probbly be deleted from the site. That is basically plagarism and stealing from another site. Even if it's your work, they still own it once it's published. If you were to do that you would have to disguise your identity and the article.
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@Sillychick (3275)
• United States
13 Jul 08
When you publish on Helium, both you and Helium have non exclusive rights, meaning you can publish it elsewhere, as long as the byline is the same. That is unless it is a marketplace article that was purchased. On AC, you can choose to submit exclusive or non exclusive. Exclusive means you can't publish it elsewhere, non exclusive you can. So it is not plagiarism. Disguising your identity or changing the article slightly, on the other hand, is dishonest and can lead to people accusing you of plagiarism.
@edgyk8inmomma (2157)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I sure do, why not make double the pennies??? The only time it is not legal or permitted, is if you give rights of work to a publisher. But as long as you retain your rights, and dual publishing isn't against the regulations of the publisher, you are all good to make as much as you can from your work. I have many dual submissions with Triond and Helium. I have yet to add anything to my AC account, but there you have options of submissions.
@edgyk8inmomma (2157)
• United States
19 Jul 08
My stuff is doing considerably better on Triond vs. Helium, However, my mom's stuff is rocking Helium, and just this past week two of her articles were solicited for publication(not through marketplace), so she is doing better at Helium. I guess it just depends on your style and choice topics. She does more of the travel guides and product reviews, with a bit of creative writing(mostly poetry). Whereas I do more personal pieces and education/religion based articles, with very little creative writing and almost no poetry.
...:)if that helps any. I just submitted my first three pieces to AC, I'll let ya know how they do there.
As for page views, its hard to determine since Helium doesn't let you in on that.
Best of luck to you!!
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@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
21 Jul 08
Thank you for your reply. Do let me know how well your AC articles are doing. I'm slowly submitting my articles to HubPages. I have so many articles. Just started with the older ones first. So far, getting better raking at HubPages.
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@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
19 Jul 08
Hello there! Thank you for responding to my discussion and reassuring me that it's ok to republish my Triond articles. Just curious, which websites get more pageviews, Helium or Triond? Which earn more? You can leave the questions unanswered if you're not comfortable revealing it to me. I'm slowly trying to submit my Triond articles at HubPages first. Then I will consider AC or Helium.
@Wolfechu (1193)
• United States
10 Jul 08
I've moved a few from Helium to AC; Helium claims non-exclusive rights to everything you publish, so unless it's a marketplace winner, you're perfectly free to publish it elsewhere.
AC I mostly publish as exclusive, in the hopes of an upfront payment, so I couldn't in good faith move those to Helium. If it's display only or non-exclusive you chose, same procedure.
Oh, the stuff I HAVE moved from Helium to AC, I didn't even bother asking for upfront payment; they simply won't offer it if it's published elsewhere. You can still earn from hits, though, and typically I've found it tends to get more. This may be due to AC including keyword tags in the publishing process, instead of relying on the sites you socialise it on.
Triond I've never used, so you'd need to check their T&C.
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@iakulchen (615)
• Singapore
11 Jul 08
Triond claims first rights to your article, but it's non-exclusive, so basically what they want is just the right to publish a unique article first. They're ok with you publishing your article elsewhere AFTER they have published it.
AC is defintely ok with it. It wven gives you a yes or no option where it asks you if you have published the article elsewhere.
Helium states that it only claims non-exclusive rights onarticles published on it.
I have no experience with Hubpages so I have no idea about their TOS.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
12 Jul 08
Thank you for your insight. I may try AC. I don't qualify for their upfront payment anyways. I don't pretty much like Helium though. The ranking system seems superficial, and you can't delete the articles there.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
13 Jul 08
I have heard about people rating other people's articles down so that their articles can come out tops. I have also heard that well-written articles may not come out at the top because of their rating system. While I still think that it was a good idea to automate the reviewing process, it has unfortunately led to abuse by its members. Anyway, that is just my opinion. I know a lot of people like Helium.
@iakulchen (615)
• Singapore
12 Jul 08
Well, I think the idea is to automate the reviewing process. Helium doesn't have any waiting time between submiiting your article and publishing, unlike Triond, where you have to wait for about less than a day. It relies on the user based reviewing process to rate/flag inappropriate articles. I have to say it's a good idea in principle, though my verdict is still out on whether it is practical...
@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
1 Aug 08
I've newly started with Triond and one of the rules they stressed is that the article submitted to them should never have been published. That means they have the sole publicity of your original article. They also stressed originality. If you publish something you have not written then you have to have the full permission of the person who wrote the article. But definitely you cannot publish in another site what you have written for them.