Have you ever been accused of being a liar, when you were just mistaken?
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
United States
July 13, 2008 5:59pm CST
I've noticed this hurtful trend lots of times on MyLot
and other forums.
If you state something slightly wrong, people will jump
on you and accuse you of being a liar and trying to distort
the truth out of proportion. They assume you did it on purpose.
No benefit of the doubt is given.
As if you got the fact wrong on purpose.
I guess those kinds of people are looking for any reason
to start an argument. What do you think?
Has this ever happened to you online?
My problem with this kind of behavior is that it would
never be tolerated in public offline!
In real life, if a person got up in another person's face and shouted
at them that they were a liar, that person would most likely
get beat up!
Has anyone accused you of being a liar over a slight misstatement
of words or typos?
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25 responses
@Shaun72 (15959)
• Palatka, Florida
14 Jul 08
Oh yeah it happened to me a couple of times actully. My neice got a toothpick stuck in her toe. It really happened my sister had to take her to the hospital she was only 4 at the time. her skin is still really soft. Someone replied that this couldn't of happened and i was lieing. i just wrote it to warn other people with young kids to be careful with toothpicks being on the floor and someone wanted to argue about it. Also the one I wrote to prove that I am a female. Someone replies so you are a female and your point. I replied you just read the headline not the whole discussion. I try to only reply to discussions my friends started because a few people like to start problems in here. I guess it makes them feel good about their self or something.
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
14 Jul 08
About the toothpick, I believe you!
That happened to me, twice.
My brother used to burn wood matchsticks
and leave them in the carpet.
When I was a teen, a burnt matchstick stuck
up into the bottom of my foot and I was
disabled and could not walk for a week or more!
Then another time, a toothpick stuck up under my
big toe cause it had been dropped onto the carpet
accidentally and I could barely walk then.
Next time a jerk implies you are lying,
insist that they provide proof that you are lying.
That will shut them up,
just say, "Oh yeah! Prove that I'm lying!"
They will not be able to prove your words are not true.
Put the person on the defense and make them prove the case.
That is how it works in criminal law.
As the accused it's not your job to prove your innocence.
It's the other person's job to prove your guilt.
Mere insinuation of your guilt is not proof.
@Shaun72 (15959)
• Palatka, Florida
14 Jul 08
At least I know it has happened to someone else besides my niece. She was in pain for a good while. it really scared my sister and my brother-n-law. That discuassion was over a year ago but it still made me pretty mad at the time. They were saying this is a story you made up this can't happen jerk.
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
14 Jul 08
Whoever said that to you was wrong!!! It happened to me, twice.
I still have the scars on my foot.
They were just being jerks.
You were not at fault.
Kids get hurt. They fall down.
They run into things.
It's just part of learning.
It's no ones fault!
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I have seen this many times, and it is a Shame that most people (even not online, but in real person), usually see no harm when they do something like this. It can be a real nuisance trying to even want to associate with them, or communicate with them, as you never know what they are going to have you believing next. And if you ever catch them in a lie, and bring their attention to it, they just tell you it was a mistake, and to move on... Next.
That is why there are some people you just tend to never want to respond back too, and just move on to a better person as well.
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@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
26 Jul 08
I believe that is true.
Some people will even nitpick your
personal stories and question you about your life
as if they somehow have insider knowledge of what's
going on in your home!
How weird is that?
@GardenGerty (160665)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I am sure they have, but I try not to remember them. Unfortunately, people do try to do this in real life. We are losing our manners more and more every day. I think it happens more online, because people do feel anonymous.
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
26 Jul 08
That's the reason they do it!
They feel immune. Those people don't know
that admin knows where they are (by the IP address)
and can ban them permanantly.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
14 Jul 08
I have seen people who likes to make up a small issue into a big issue. Here in mylot some members join to show their debating skills. Not only they try to show their superiority on some issues but belittle your lack of competency on a subject matter. I always give in if I see a person getting heated up. only when situation cools down that I give my views. No I've not been branded a liar this far.
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I'm happy that you have been able
to avoid this type of situation.
You have very good intelligence and you
use it!
@roninartist (39)
• Philippines
14 Jul 08
Yes I was. The other fellow forgot what I said and commented that she doesn't remember me saying such a thing. I came out the liar to a concerned person when she was the one who's forgot it all. Made me mad and decided to stay the hell away from her and her companions.
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@RhythmWalker1 (825)
• United States
14 Jul 08
beautyqueen,
Since I do write very often in different places all over the web, I get labeled as a bigot and a liar at times. Uh, my opinion is just my opinion. I never try to influence anyone to my way of thinking. I just try to prove my points.
Being labeled can hurt your feelings and make you mad. I am the type of person that basically isn't prejudice toward any race of people or any preference they
may have. I believe that we all have choices and should stick by them. But we should not try to change others to "our ways".
This world is awesome because of the individuality we all have. I often wish that
readers could understand that I am a story teller, a poet and often talk through my words.
I used to let people bother me with their remarks. Then the old saying hit my head. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"
Whoever made that up, missed it by a mile. Verbal abuse cuts like a knife.
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
14 Jul 08
It's the truth! Verbal abuse is one of the
worst things a person can do to another.
Cause the abuse scars!
@RhythmWalker1 (825)
• United States
14 Jul 08
Laugh when you read this, but it's true.
My X was verbally and physically abusive.
He called me a b---h so many times that I heard
someone say that one day and I said, "what".
They looked at me like I was crazy and I told them I
had got called that so many times that I answered
to it because I thought it was my name!
@1grnthmb (2055)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I have never had anyone do this to me but have had friends that were just blasted unmercifully. Unfortunately it is hard to tell a persons attitude when they are telling you that you are mistaken. One forum that I belong to, one person made a comment and another person stated that he was wrong and gave all the basis behind what he said. The first person flared up and it turned into a heated discussion and finally the first person said he would never come back to the forum and started his own discussion group about the same subject. While the second person said all he was trying to do was point out the true facts and was not trying to be hurtful. It is a shame that we can not see the actual expressions of the person discussing things then we would know how the are truly responding. So many problems would never occure if this was the case.
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
14 Jul 08
You have an amazing point!
If we all used web-cams to voice
our view instead of typing, there would
be less hurt feelings!
Perhaps that will be the next big trend
in forum chat.
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
15 Jul 08
This has happened to me many times, especially on the Green Party email forum which I belong to. I thought Greens were supposed to be all happiness and light, but especially when we don't have to look each other in the eye we can be just as mean as anyone over our disagreements. What is it about email and forums that take common civility out of people?
@simplyjemz (188)
• Philippines
25 Jul 08
haha! i've been accused of telling stories about a certain person...i was accused of things i didnt do...she had confronted me bout this and wanted me to admit that fault...but...the hell! why will i admit a thing i did not do or say? what for? to satisfy her? i really dont know her reasons...but i am sure there are people behind this...it really hurts a lot...and i will never ever forget that story of my life...never!
i was also being reprimanded because of a joke which was obviously a joke! hehe! she also confronted me online...well...those were just misunderstandings! but to think..the person concerned will be hurt really! so, i think we have to watch our words and of course our actions in order for us not to be accused and not to accuse other people!
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
15 Jul 08
the closest i'd come to that was an arguement with one of those "uber fanboy" types on another board.insisted they were right about something i'd attended because some book somewhere said it was so.i love how they're an authority when they weren't there in person,didn't live here.
@chrislotz (8137)
• Canada
3 Sep 08
It happens to me sometimes here in mylot, but not often. When it happens I try to explain myself but sometimes there is no changing someones mind and so I just then let it go. I don't want any problems or conflicts here or in my offline life so if I can't fix the problem I just don't bother with that person anymore. It hs only happened to me a couple times here so I don;t worry about it too much and since that person was not part of my offline life I really don't care if I can't fix it, after I tried the first couple times. If a person can't forgive me for being wrong or if someone just misunderstands me, oh well. I can't control how people feel about me and I try to explain and then if that doesn't work, I just ignore them after that.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Jul 08
hi beautyqueen26 I think I saw this same discussion as the person called a mylottera liar. I wrote a response to this irate person and said maybe this discussion was on a different aspectof the topic and so the answer you were given was probably correct. I have never been personally accused here but this is very offensive to me and that mylotter should watch his or her mouth as there is no call for calling any of us liars. that really shocked me when I saw that.
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I agree with you! Calling someone a liar is the
worst kind of cyber-bullying!
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
14 Jul 08
When someone acts that way to you online,
do you ignore them?
@richiem (3644)
• Philippines
14 Jul 08
I don't think I have been told to be a liar here in mylot. I won't say that I have
not dissented with others' opinions but I would do it politely.
However, I have an experience with another chatroom though I am not
directly called a liar.
I typed in a website url (www.mylot.com) thinking that it would no qualify
as a link (I always have thought that links always starts with http://). And
a person responded and said I should and that I should read the TOS.
I said sorry and said that it won't happen again and stated my reason.
But he came again quoting my first message with the url. It's like he's
trying to prove that I am lying and wants to put me in jail.
I know I am wrong, I made a mistake. I just said sorry again. Thankfully, another
member defended me.
Have Fun!
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
14 Jul 08
That's what I'm talking about!
Honest mistakes. Whoops, I didn't mean
to do that, kind of mistakes. We all do that!
They happen to everyone. No need for a mean
person to keep rubbing your face in them
and bringing them up as they did in your case.
It's as if, they think that they must
reiterate their point repeatedly to shame
the person who made the mistake.
Most of us online are adults and accept
responsibility for our own mistakes and try
to do better next time.
We don't need trolls to police us!
That is completely unneeded!
These people who do these type of things
are really pathetic and sad.
They should get a life.
But their life is all about making other
people miserable cause in real life they have
nothing! That is all I can figure.
Thanks for your comments.
@KrisNY (7590)
• United States
15 Jul 08
Wow-- No and thankfully so!
That is not tolerable to me- I would be so mad and defend myself.
I have noticed that some people on forums really are not that nice- and look to cause problems for others. It drives me crazy-
I'm here to have fun.... destress.... not get riled up if someone calls me a name!
So far I've only run into good people on here.
@AmbiePam (92714)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I would be upset as well. No, I don't think I've ever been accused of being a liar except when I was a kid and my sister wanted to get out of trouble. That has nothing to do with your discussion though. It would be very rude if a person handled the situation like you stated in real life, which makes it just as unacceptable on mylot. People who like to point out errors in other's discussions or responses seem to just crave constant attention. All it really does is make themselves look like a jerk.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
14 Jul 08
I haven't been accused of being a liar but I recently got attacked because I am old and don't know what I am talking about....very rude but it's ok. When people talk like that here or elsewhere, it says so much more about who and what they are then it does about me. I just make a mental note of who they are and avoid them on here. they are not worth getting all worked up over. And when you try to explain yourself to these type of people, i've noticed that they just get even ruder...it's pointless to bother with them.
@greenglitterturtle (2750)
• United States
14 Jul 08
that is so true. i sometimes make a misstatement and then say i'm sorry i mean to say this. usually that works. but there is someone in my life who wants to jump on you and make you a liar and gets so angry with yelling and all that i can't correct it. i just leave it alone. God knows my heart. then i ignore what the guy says and bide the time for him to walk away when i am cornered and can't move. he's a mess.
but it does make me feel bad when he's trying to make me look like i'm intentionally lying when i'm not. i also had a manager like that. they have issues inside them to be doing that to others.