McCain's Opinon On Birth Control and Viagra -
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
July 15, 2008 1:21am CST
..."It’s…ah…something that I had not thought much about…"
http://politicsanew.com/2008/07/11/mccain-squirms-on-birth-control-viagra/
This question came after McCain surrogate Carly Fiorino (sp?) stated that she didn't think it was "fair" that Viagra is covered by insurance while birth control is not.Unfortunately, she apparently hadn't done her homework or she'd have known McCain voted NO on the Murray Amendment (S.Amdt 258 to S. 3, vote 45, 3/11/03), which would have improved the availability of contraceptives for women and required insurance coverage of prescription birth control in 2003. You really must view the video of McCain's reaction to fully appreciate it! I've never seen a Presidential candidate act THAT uncomfortable over a simple question like that!
"...something that I had not thought much about..."
And HE thinks he's going to attract some female voters who had supported Hillary Clinton???
Annie
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@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
15 Jul 08
Oh my. McCain may have looked at it logically. Viagra temporarily cures impotence. However birth control does not medicate an illness.
Personally I think it is all a money game myself. As long as birth control is not covered by insurance and comes out of the pocket of the buyer then they make more money.
I don't think you should need a prescription for birth control. Over 18 and have to show id and sign for it at the pharmacy.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
15 Jul 08
That really isn't the point, whether it should be available without a prescription or not. Personally I'd agree with you if it weren't for the risk of side effects and the need for someone to be under a doctor's care when taking birth control pills. However, the point is the cost of birth control pills and other methods such as shots and patches is through the roof and McCain and other right-wingers are opposed to abortion but they don't think insurance companies should foot the bill for birth control but they should to treat impotence?
Annie
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@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
15 Jul 08
Because impotence is a physical ailment. Preventing pregnancy is not a physical ailment. I could care less if Viagra existed at all. Logically it is how I see it.
The government needs citizens to govern. More people= more people working= more taxes= more war money. Lets not forget about kickbacks they probably get. I am sure they have money invested in pharmaceutical companies.
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@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
15 Jul 08
Fluff that sounds great. Now you should contact your local representative and explain to them why insurance is needed.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jul 08
Yep, he's an idiot. There's really not much else to say. He doesn't need to know how he voted to know how he feels about an issue..well at least that's how it should work. Obviously he is just another puppet for the system. I wasn't voting for him anyway. I e-mailed the video link to s/o...maybe this will help change his mind about the guy.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
17 Jul 08
You know that he needs some Democrats to vote his way and I know he need them to vote for him but I don't think he is really trying to woo them. He is too busy trying to get the conservative Republicans to back him.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
15 Jul 08
Hey Annie, if possible, could you provide a link to the actual amendment he voted against? I've tried searching for it on the net, but I keep coming up with site for planned parenthood and such which, naturally, will only give a biased viewpoint. I just want to see the actual language of the bill since I myself am curious about why he voted against it.
On the plus side, he seemed interested in looking into the issue and perhaps he will reverse his stance on it. One thing I'm curious about though is that it says Viagra is covered, but this was a law that would "require" insurance coverage of prescription birth control. Is coverage of Viagra required, or is it just something that insurance companies decided independently to cover? Are there many insurance companies that currently cover prescription birth control regardless of any legal requirement? The insurance I have with the library covers prescription birth control, but I have no way of knowing how common that is.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
16 Jul 08
I don't see how the title is misleading because that was the question he was answering when he said it wasn't something he'd thought about much. I've also looked for a link to the actual amendment, with no luck so far, but while I know you oppose Planned Parenthood because of their pro-choice stance that doesn't mean they won't tell the "truth" about something like this. I'm sure at the time he had some excuse for voting against this, but the bottom line is he was on the side of the insurance companies instead of American women. As for Viagra, I don't know if there's a requirement that it be covered but I do know Medicare and Medicaid covers it. I love that - Medicaid will cover Viagra but it won't cover a dental visit even though an abscessed tooth can actually kill you!
Annie
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
16 Jul 08
Well all that Medicaid stuff is crap anyway. It's just as broken as our insurance system, but god only knows if that will ever really be fixed.
Just so you know, I don't dislike Planned Parenthood because they are pro-choice, it's because they're pro-abortion and don't mind circumventing laws to perform abortions on 15 years old girls without their parents knowledge or consent. Their priority always comes off as more about abortion than choice. Irregardless, they are an organization with an agenda, and they will always skew the details to further their mission rather than tell the whole truth. That is why the Viagra thing was mentioned when it really was not relevant to the question at hand.
The real issue is about things that should be covered that aren't. Things like Viagra can be dealt with later.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
16 Jul 08
Viagra was brought up because the question that was asked of Carly Fiorino was about Viagra being covered while birth control pills and other methods were not. She agreed with the questioner that it isn't fair which led to McCain being asked if he agreed with his surrogate, Carly, about this. I guess the Viagra issue isn't all that relevant other than to point out how ridiculous it actually is.
Annie
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Jul 08
I actually never considered voting for mccain because he just reminds me too much of Bush and that video just confirms it for me. It is a common sense issue and obviously he doesn't have it at his disposal...he has to look into the issue? whats to look into. What really is a problem with me is that we really don't have many choices here. Barak was not my top choice either...in fact not my choice at all....I really was looking towards john edwards but he dropped out...then hilary but she dropped out. Now i'm just not sure. I'm not real excited about either candidate. I don't even feel good about voting.
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@fluffnflowers (1594)
• United States
15 Jul 08
You know, you'd think people would be more interested in preventing pregnancy so that they government wouldn't have to foot the bill for children that people can't care for. I'd think $300/month (for an expensive BC; mine only costs $115/3 mos) would make a lot more sense than $900/month + health coverage + additional benefits to maintain a child. What do I know, though?
My insurance company, on it's own, raised it's women's health coverage and has $10 copays on any generic BC prescription and has made huge cuts to the copays on nongenerics. Why? Because my plan also covers my child's health issues and my prenatal and delivery costs. I think that's one of the only sensible things that the insurance company has ever done.
McCain definitely didn't make any friends among women with that one.
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@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
16 Jul 08
I think the government needs people to govern.
The kings used to have citizens breed because they knew they would get more tax if the population increased. That is why they want us to breed.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
16 Jul 08
I think it's ridiculous to cover something for impotence but not birth control. Insurance DOES cover a majority of the cost for many people though, I don't recall ever paying much, if anything lol.
I don't personally mind seeing or hearing about the candidates squirming. I mean good luck pleasing everybody, somewhere somehow or other they are going to get stuck and with the unpleasant 24/7 media coverage and youtube, we'll get to witness every uncomfortable moment!
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