Now what? Need advice fast please.
By alori61
@alori61 (344)
United States
July 16, 2008 8:08pm CST
A couple years ago I fell deeply in love with a man and his little girl. For reasons I never understood he met another woman and married her in two weeks. We had almost no contact for six months, then he needed a safe place for his little girl and asked me to take her. His "wife" at this point had never moved in with him she lived 300+ miles away and visited on weekends, needless to say things were bad. We became freindly again and ended up getting reinvolved. His daughter went home when school started. Ten months after they married the wife finally moved in, and we returned to strictly friends status and I continued to have weekend 'visits' with his daughter who was calling me mom by this time.
Once his wife moved in we never did anything inappropriate we simply talked on the phone as friends. His wife could not stand his daughter so I began keeping her more and more (I've had her since early May.) Three weeks ago, he took her back to her parents 300 miles away. It wasn't a one time arguement they had been fighting really bad for weeks and he had been talking to me more and more. A few hours after they hit the road to take her home I hit the road to his house (175 miles away) by the time he got home I was there. we spent two fantastic weekends together (one alone one with the kids) we spent every spare minute on the phone for two weeks then last weekend he informed me he had to give his marriage one more try (I still have his daughter with me).
Again I back off to allow him to do what he feels is right, upset of course but I did as he asked and supported his decision. Yesterday, he got angry about something I said and right in the middle of blowing up at me he hung up on me. I was extremely upset because I was trying to let him know he was misunderstanding what I was saying but he wouldn't answer my calls. So I spent most of the afternoon crying and very upset.
Two of my older daughters decided they were tired of him upsetting me and decided to take matters in thier own hands. This afternoon they called his wife and told her he was having an affair, and gave her proof because I had accidently left my favorite jacket there during my last visit, they also told her to ask the neighbors about the cars parked in the driveway while she was gone, (she knows my car).
I know how this makes me sound I knew full well I was involved with a married man but I truly do love him with all my heart and I did not sleep with him during any time he was living with his wife. I never did anything nor tried to break up the marriage that was all mostly her doings. I know this woman well enough to know she will not say nothing to him till she has the proof of his infidelity to throw in his face. I knew nothing about it until after it was done, but now I'm in a horrid place, I've heard nothing from them at all which indicates to me she has yet to say anything, I still have his daughter, she's supposed to be going to school here this year.
My dilemma I don't know what to say if the wife calls me and confronts me. Or what to say if he confronts me about it, I also don't want to lose his daughter in the past year and a half she has become one of my own (she's even in my mothers ring). A part of me says just get it over with but I have this 12 year old child that needs me, I'm the only mother she has ever really had (she's had an extremely bad time). I feel very bad about what has happened but I really did believe both times we got involved their was no marriage left but now I don't know what to do.
Any advice? Please don't tell me how horrid I am I feel bad enough about what has happened. And please don't slam him this is really only the most basic of what's been going on. I'm trying to figure out how to handle this in a way that I can keep the little girl with me, and so the fall out from what my girls did is minimal on my family.
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7 responses
@Ithink (9980)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Im wondering how old are all the kids involved in this? I do know the love for a little girl as Im having a few problems here too. If he isnt going to leave his so called wife you need to get out of the relationship as it stands now. Im not saying give up on the little girl cause Im gonna fight for ours but maybe pull away from the guy. He cant have his cake and eat it too. Well he shouldnt be able to unless you allow that.
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@alori61 (344)
• United States
18 Jul 08
His daughter will be 12 next week, I also have a 14 and 16 year old still at home, (ok a 20 year old too) but my 14 year old has downs syndrome and having a little sister around to help her has done wonders for her as well.
The relationship with the guy is non existant right now, haven't even talked for three days now. But when he is with his wife we truly do not do anything inappropriate. We are friends, there is no romantic involvement when he is with her. I know I'll hear from him in a day or two to discuss his daughter, and getting her into school, or taking her back if this phone call thing blows up.
Thank you for responding and understanding that the little girl is my top concern here it's not about him if it weren't for the little girl I wouldn't care
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
17 Jul 08
I think that the best thing for you to do is to talk to him and try to explain to him what he misunderstood and then talk to him about what your daughters have done. I assume he knows your daughters and will most likely understand that girls will be girls. I think talking to your daughters about it might help, and let them know that what they have done has really gotten you into a bind. I don't think your at fault, but by what you have said of this other woman, I assume she is not a very nice lady. A woman who does not love her husband's child is someone who really needs to reevaluate her love for the husband. I think that you are very nice for letting his child stay with you, and I think in some ways your bond with the girl will help you communicate more with her father. I don't mean for you to use her as a pawn in anyway. I know I am not the best at advising in issues such as these, but I do hope that I was of some help. I also hope that you have a very wonderful and lovely day!
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@alori61 (344)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Thank you for your kind response. As of an hour ago he still didn't know about what my girls did. His little girl calls him every night and the conversation went well so I know he doesn't know.
I know my daughters meant well but they didn't think it through and consider the little one. They feel bad for her but still do not regret what they did. They don't believe he will take her away even if he finds out it was them. They didn't tell her who they were nor who he was having the affair with just that he was sleeping with someone else and told her what to look for left the rest up to her.
He supposedly is going to call me tomorrow about getting her in school I guess I'll know more then. No his wife is not a nice person at all, but considering my position I'll refrain from saying anything. Thank you again for your response, and not passing judgement on my behavior. I know I've made mistakes in this situation but this little girl really does need my protection and that is my biggest concern.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Your a great woman for being concerned with the little girl and I hope that you get your answers. I hope that the little girl stays safe with you as I know I would want the same!
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@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Ma'am,
First of all, when he got married, then came to you for help, you should have told him well, although I ma sorry for what has happened, I don't believe I need to deal with your problems. Seriously because it is obvious that he treated you as an afterthought throughout this whole thing. OR if you felt the need to keep the daughter, then keep the child and LEAVE HIM ALONE because to be honest, you have no legal ties to her. Just a tie that you used to be with the father that's all. As for your daughters doing that, well, I guess they were tired of you being treated as you were. I am not down for what they did, but I believe they were also tired of the pain he was causing you, and if you really want my opinion, find out his intentions about the child once and for all, and from there make it legal so there is no interference on that part, then tell him from here on out, you want no ties with him. I would say, break ties with the kids AND him, but the poor kid sounds like she's in a rock and a hard place which is truly sad because life is hard enough as is. whatsoever you do, keep contact to a minimum.
@alori61 (344)
• United States
18 Jul 08
The fact is I would die before I would turn my back on this little girl. It is all very personal and I'm not posting it here but her ending up with me had nothing to do with the current situation. The danger she was in had nothing to do with her father or his wife. She had to be protected at the time and you must remember when he and I were dating the child and I had become very close. I will always help any child in need, this one was just in an extreme need and my heart went out to her. My relationship with her has nothing to do with my feelings for her father, they are completely seperate.
Reguardless of how this turns out I will never turn my back on either one of them. when you love someone unconditionally you do not place conditions on that love, whether it is for a child or adult. I did not go after him in any way shape or form, I have always been there for him helped him in any way I could. I do not call or contact him unless there is an emergancy with his daughter, but when he needs a friend I am now and will always be there for him. Yes I hooked up with him they were seperated getting a divorce, all her belongings were packed up and moved 300+ miles away. I didn't think it was wrong and I still do not. What happened has happened now I'm simply trying to protect a child that had noting to do with the currnet situation.
@AnnaB7 (756)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I think you are indeed in a very bad situation, maybe you could see if he would just give you legal custody of his daughter since you keep her so much, and then make it so he has visitation rights.
As for what your daughters did, if and when he finds out maybe try to just tell him your daughters are tired of him hurting you.
I do not believe I would want to be in your shoes at all, you are in a very bad predictatament, maybe you will find a way out but I don't know it just does not look too good at all.
It is very hard when you have a mess such as you have at the moment.
@alori61 (344)
• United States
18 Jul 08
yes it's bad and I think getting worse. Although I have heard nothing from them I'm getting messages from my daughter that she is getting a lot of phone calls not only from the wife but someone else that knows the truth. Thus far they do not know it is my daughter that made the call she lives in a differnet state.
@click50 (68)
• United States
17 Jul 08
The heart knows no reason. It can lead you down some dangerous paths. It is good that things are out in the open. I am sure the wife had her own suspicions. A confrontation can get ugly. I would avoid it if at all possible. If she confronts you, I would avoid blaming her for the state of her marriage or making excuses for the way things turned out. I would listen patiently to her rantings and apologize for my part in it. I hope violence would'nt be a part of it.
As for him, it seems that he has caused a lot of pain for everyone concerned. I know that you love him but if I were you I would try to listen to my head. You don't need this kind of drama in your life. It is not good for your or your children. You are worth more than to be this man's second choice, fall back lover and substitute mother for his child. I would tell him it was over. Then I would get counseling for myself so that I could put this mess behind me.
As for the child, you have been a great influence on her life. Even if she is removed from your care, I am sure that you will remain with her. After she grows up she will be free to continue a relationship with you.
However, if you believe that her parents are unfit and are willingly to face their anger, you may be in a postion to sue for guardianship of the child. This is a drastic measure so if you decide to take this action be sure you are doing it in the best interest of the child and not for yourself.
Good luck
Ps if things get ugly get a restraining order for your protection
@alori61 (344)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Thank you for your response.
The wife was suspicious when there was nothing to be suspicious of. She's hated me since the day she found out I existed just because I was the ex girlfriend. I don't think she'll get violent she's a lot of talk but no action. I won't get in a fight with her she isn't worth my time, and she don't have the guts to say anything to me anyway she only talks behind my back. The little girl is not in physical danger she truly isn't. He is an excellent father, we have tried to get custody legalized we can't because the bio mother is fighting it even if she won't see her, I would never try to take her from him. He is a great dad but she needs a mother right now there are other factors here that can not be told but trust me this little girl needs a mommy.
@Jade13 (262)
• Malaysia
17 Jul 08
I think you guys need to sit down and talk. Obviously he is very married. Although you won't like to hear this. But I think he is responsible on what happened today as well.Its time to let go? I think you should consider taking child custody of the little girl as well. But talk to the father first. From what I read, it seems that you are the one who does more of the job taking care of the girl. And I think she's more suitable to stay with you.
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@alori61 (344)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Thank you for responding, I do think it's a good idea for us to talk but I have to be careful because right now he is extremely stressed out and I do not want to add to that he's already had a stroke, he don't need more stress. Right now the only one that does not want the child with me is the wife, she wants to put her in a boot camp, or some similar program that will brain wash her into being a robot child, she don't want her but she doesn't want her with me she's a major control freak. Until I hear something I'm just going to proceed as planned and get her ready to start school with me.
So far I've heard nothing so I'm just trying to figure out what to do when the bomb explodes.
@subha12 (18441)
• India
17 Jul 08
i think in this case it seems the whole world is conspiring against you. it happens. in this case, you have to hold the nerves/. it is not rare. some are unlucky like this, you did no mistake but loved a person. it seems he only wanted to keep his child with your care, nothing more. now he can't take your responsibility. so better forget this, send the girl to him and live on your own.
@alori61 (344)
• United States
17 Jul 08
Thank you for your response. I'm used to things taking bad turns it's just a matter of damage control when it hits the fan.
I can not return her right now there are too many things going on that would not make it a healthy enviroment for her in fact their marriage counselor is stongly reccommending the way things are right now. I can not forget this little girl she is one of my own, it's not just words I love her and so do my other children. She's not just off the streets she belongs in our family. I will continue to survive on my own, support all the children his and mine, I'm just trying to figure out how to deal when the bomb drops to cause the least amount of fall out land on the kids. They are all that is important at this point his and mine.