Has your doctor been wrong before?
By zeloguy
@zeloguy (4911)
United States
July 17, 2008 8:28pm CST
Have you ever diagnosed yourself and have your doctor disagree with you and then have tests come back confirming what you thought in the first place?
I have had this happen THREE different times. Most recently I passed out at the gym (yeah really embarrassing!) and after a couple months of expirimenting with different diets/foods/etc... I diagnosed myself as being hypoglycemic (low blood sugar).
When I went to my doctor she said to me "There is no reason to have hypoglycemia without an underlying cause." I asked her if there was some test that I could take that would confirm it and it was a four-hour test from hell but it indeed confirmed my blood sugar was low enough to be considered hypoglycemic.
I don't mean to sound like a know-it-all but it frustrates me when I am told I don't have kidney stones and that there is something wrong with my stomach when my back hurt so bad an ambulance had to come for me or that I didn't have a rare neurological disorder when the top neurologist confirmed it 20 years earlier.
Have you ever had experiences like this?
Thanks
Zelo
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22 responses
@Kaeli72 (1229)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Boy, do I ever!
With the last three children I've had, about a couple months after they were born, I would break out with something bad. It seems to be a rash with one of them, but the other two caused me to get something that looked like wounds or bug bites.
After my last baby, I had some clear bumps on my finger and that got infected, spreading over my hand. I'm sure it's a staph skin infection, but three doctors have said it's enzema. Yeah, ok, whatever. After three months, I still have it and DUH! I don't have the desire to look for another doctor.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Wow that is just CRAZY!
I had to go through like seven doctors before I found one that would treat me so I know what it is like and the headache that is involved in trying to find a good doctor.
That reminds me of another story though...
My mother was about to have her third child (I am the first) and the doctors swore that it was going to be a boy and to have a name ready when HE came out... well suprise suprise out came a girl... luckily we (the family) had a girl name already chosen but it is just crazy how many times doctors are wrong and people wonder why we are so afraid of hospitals... it's not the hospitals... it's the DOCTORS.
Thanks for the response
Zelo
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@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
18 Jul 08
That is why they say they are Practicing Medicine. They are just doing it until they get it right. Practice makes perfect. You do not have any doctor that will order a simple culture for your skin?
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Practicing Medicine... that's funny!
The irony of it is it's the truth a lot of the time. You go into the hospital and a lot of times they have to figure out what is wrong... and sometimes they get it right and sometimes get it wrong... and when they get it wrong they get it REALLY wrong.
Hopefully there are not a lot of people that get hurt in the process.
Thanks
Zelo
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
18 Jul 08
oh yes i've definitely correct my doctor before. i won't really say it's the doctor's fault though. i was down with a bout of flu then. the doctor took one look at my swollen eye and said that the virus somehow went up to my eye through my nose. however, having had styes in my eyes for years, i knew that it was just a plain old stye. the doctor insisted that the swell was caused by the virus and prescribed anti-biotic eyedrops. i took it but didn't use it. a few days later, i visited another doctor and confirmed that it was just a stye. good thing i didn't use the eyedrops.
sometimes doctors become complacent and treat every patient like they are the same. it's a risky stance and doctors will do good to remember that patients should know their own body best. cheers ;p
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Well first of all if it was viral an antibiotic isn't going to do squat to it so I dunno why he would have done that. You know your body better than anyone else and it would be nice if doctors shut up and listened once in a while instead of seeing how many patients they can get through in a day.
Glad everything turned out well
Thanks
Zelo
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I have a pain in my left side that three doctors have told me "there is nothing there." Excuse me? I don't know what to say, but the pain is getting worse over time. Guess I'll just have to wait until it requires a visit to the ER. Maybe when the bill comes, I'll tell them, "But there's nothing there!"
A doctor once treated me separately for three symptoms: Exhaustion, hair loss and weight gain. The second doctor told me I had kidney disease which explained all three symptoms.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
19 Jul 08
Actually using one's brain and finding out what the common denominator is... wow what a novel idea... again I wish that doctors would take more time with patients that either have a new condition or a condition that won't go away or is changing, etc... to make sure they have their diagnosis correct.
Thanks for the response
Zelo
@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
18 Jul 08
My husband had an ongoing skin condition on one hand. I loved my doctor, but he kept asking questions and never coming up with an answer. I did diagnose it myself, after reading an article in Prevention. It was a yeast infection. Hubby had to take oral antifungals for a long time to clear it up. I really have been fortunate in my choices of doctors in this town. They all three usually listen to me.
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@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Yeast is not bacteria, but is another microscopic organizm, which is why it required an antifungal. Often diaper rashes that persist and do not heal are yeast infections, and some other rashes in warm moist sweaty places are yeasts. They can even be in your blood stream.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Wow a yeast infection on the hand... I don't even think I have heard of that before. At least a yeast infection (after it was detected that is what it was) is a bacterial infection that can be cleared up.
I hope everything is ok now!
Thanks
Zelo
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@jsmith12 (438)
• Canada
18 Jul 08
Oh my last doctor was a work of art.
Let's see:
1) Said that my tests results came back negative. Strangely enough when my new doctor and a specialist looked at them, they sent me to another neurologists for a second option. They did the tests again, and something odd was on them which showed up on the FIRST set of tests. So they are still testing on that.
2) He thought I may be diabetic, but never bothered to test for it because I have an issue with needles. Never mind there were other tests he could have done. (And a different specialist he sent me to did them and the issue I had to see that specialist for had nothing to DO with diabities!)
3) Never got back to me on some test results without me nagging him.
4) Never WARNED me before he retired that due to certain meds he had me on (Which another specialist put me on for reasons unknown) it would be hard for me to get a new doctor.
Suffice to say he was...not fun.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I've had the test results come back and have had many different doctors say many different things. UUGGHHH I know how frustrating that can be.
There is a glycemic test that can be done... no needles... no peeing... all you do is drink this stuff that tastes like VERY sweet Kool-Aid and you... oh shoot they did take my blood five times.... ok maybe not that test but I am SURE there are others. I have problems with needles too and when I have them put it in me I ask to lie down before they take my blood and it is 1000% better! If not I pass out like I got sucker punched.
Don't you love how you have to sit in the waiting room for hours but if you are 15 minutes late you have to reschedule... or you are waiting on test results and you have to call THEM to get them... uugghh that just frustrates me.
I had the same problem with the meds... I am on medications that say right on the little pamphlet they give to you with the medications NOT to take them together but it just so happens to work for me and nothing else has worked for me but I had FOUR doctors that denied me before I went to one doctor that looked at my medical history and said "Well nothing else has worked and this is working so let's just keep you on it".
UUgghhh how frustrating.
Thanks for the response
Zelo
@megandsam65 (28)
• Philippines
18 Jul 08
Yes of course, they are just humans liable to make mistakes. But they are really trained not to make mistakes because they are dealing with lives. But still most of the doctors nowadays are overworked, underpaid, sleep deprived because of the dwendling numbers of doctors. It does not offer a good and high salary. Some doctors even see 50 patients a day in third world countries because of the ratio of patient to doctors. So better watch out of a haggard looking doctors, he might been awake for 24 hours already....
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I AM SURE that it is more than 50 people a day. Absolutely positively sure. The one thing about my dentist is that he is so calm and relaxed and understanding when someone on his team does something wrong... it makes me feel better when I am sitting in the chair ready for a drill to go into my mouth!
And what does he do? He is not open late... he is not open on the weekends he is not open on Friday!... he takes time for himself and that does two things.
1. it makes him a better doctor for it
2. it makes him very VERY expensive (he just doesn't see as many patients)
But, the money is well worth it because of the trust I have with him.
I know that it is hard for doctors in the US to make money... with rising costs of education, and the skyrocketing cost of insurance, they need to work that much harder just to stay ahead.... they may MAKE a lot of money but they also pay out a lot of money... but they need time for themselves. My dentist even takes a whole hour off for lunch (the WHOLE OFFICE does).
I'd rather pay more and have it be right than to pay less and 'get what I pay for'.
Thanks
Zelo
@prettypinkbug (437)
• United States
19 Jul 08
Yes, I too have had this happen. Without the knowledge of test answers, you know your body better than your doctor. That's why they are 'practicing' medicine. They don't know everything and only go by what you tell them, and then by what the tests tell them. It's really kinda scary.
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@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
18 Jul 08
hi zel. i believe we know our body the best.
we know when somthing is wrong with it, and usually we have enough
time and patience to experiment like you did and find out what is the problem.
yes. my doctor was wrong a few times, she just jumped to conclusion,
and that is a pity.
i go to the doctor about once a year, usually for blood tests.
most of the problems i try to resolve for myself.
the "no reason" answer that your doctor gave you, is very irresponsible.
@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
21 Jul 08
It is always good to make new friends! I really think it is more about money and getting as many patients in and out as possible than it is about ego but I think that definately has something to do with it... very interesting twist to think about it!
Thanks
Zelo
@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
19 Jul 08
I completely agree that the person that knows the body the best is the owner of the body. If the doctors would listen to us more or maybe try to understand what we are trying to say and interpret it into their doctor language then maybe the diagnosis can be done even better than if we try to do it ourself or the doctor trying to do it herself.
Thanks
Zelo
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@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
19 Jul 08
hi zel, first of all this is the first time i am "chatting" with you, so welcome:)
I wish they would listen to us.
but i know that most of the times i tackled with the ego problem they have.
most of the doctors i met, think that if they passed medical school they know it all, and know it the best. and most of them have a hard time looking beyond that.
i am sure there are doctors that are different, but this is really the man problem.
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@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
31 Jul 08
Yep! Sure did.
The head of Pediatrics at our local
hospital said point blank that my daughter
would have severe learning disabilities
manifesting by the time she was about 18 months.
Well she's four 1/2 now and she's the smartest kid
I've ever met.
Such wisdom too. Doctor's are idiots!
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@shymurl (2765)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I was having problems with my menstral cycle and I asked the doctor to have a hysterectomy, he said no there is no need to have one that I should have a hysteroscopy. he said that it would be best and that I won't have any problems after that. well I did have problems, he kept telling me its just a fluke that it will fix itself. Well a few months later it didn't fix itself and I wound up getting the hysterectomy. Then I was having problems after the surgery. He said the pain was nothing. I wound up having a staph infection. what a huge mess up. I'm glad its over and done with. it took me a long time to recover from that.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
19 Jul 08
I am not sure what to think about this one. Having a hysterectomy is a pretty big deal so I can see that the doctor would be hesitant to do that... and there are many women that have problems with their menstral cycle that is either just an anomoly or it does actually work itself out.
And one of the problems is that it is a major surgery and there can be complications... kinda what happened I guess.
I am hoping everything is OK now?
Thanks
Zelo
@anawar (2404)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Zelo- It's a good thing you know your body so well. Not everyone has that awareness.
Doctors don't want their patients to be educated or second guess them.
The American Health Care System is based on profit. Doctors want money and they rush their patients without paying attention. If you find a doctor who doesn't, don't let them go.
The most telling incident for me was from a visit to a neurologist. After discussing my symptoms, he told me point blank, "I can flip a coin and come up with a diagnosis that is right or wrong. I only have a 50 50 % chance of diagnosing you.
At least he was honest.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
19 Jul 08
Wow I think you hit it right on the head... it's not about taking care of the patient per se it is about the almighty dollar. How unfortunate is that. It's get 'em in and get 'em out as quickly as possible. I can't even believe that at one time doctors actually came to the house to take care of their patients!
Wow that is crazy... I had a doctor that I went to that told me some stuff that I can't even put in here because it would be against the T&C of myLot!
Great answer
Zelo
@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
21 Jul 08
[i]I don't know if I would call it a kick-back but I would definately believe that there are doctors that I don't know how to say it... are 'friends' with each other. I don't know if they get kick-backs or not I have never heard of that but I am sure that one doctor refers patients to them and they refer patients back... as a 'favor' to each other.
Something definately I will have to look into! As for the 'negative' no problems... you got a + from me![/i]
Thanks
Zelo
@anawar (2404)
• United States
19 Jul 08
I guess it's not fair to "diss" doctors behind their backs. My conscience tells me to keep negativity out of the comment. but, I can't resist.
I read or heard somewhere that doctors send their patients to specialists and get a kick-back.
One time, I was sent to three different eye doctors whith gloom and doom reasons for my visula problems. When they referred me to a specialist, I knew exactly what was happening.
When I arrived at the specialist eye doctor, he asked me what my problem was. I said, I don't know, what does it say in my chart?
No, he insisted, why do you think you're here?
I told him, I don't think there's anything wrong with my eyes, but none of the doctors want to say that.
He said - you're right. This happens all the time.
I don't think that specialist had anything to do with kick-backs though. He sounded worn out and frustrated by the system.
I guess I went a bit off topic, sorry.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
18 Jul 08
zeloguy hi oh yes just not too long ago,first he diagnosed
me as having an attack of divertiulitis and I kept saying it felt different but he went ahead and prescribed t wo different
antibiotics. the next day I broke out over half myabdomen adn i called his office to get an appt to see him, and instead
'got booted to the ER so when I got there at acost of fifty dollars.I waited for a lng time for the doctor to tell me what in heck was wrong and he took one look at my abdomen and said i have good news and bad news. you do nothave diverticulitis, you have shingles oh joy oh ouch so its been over eight weeks and am
not rid of them yet but am feeling much better.
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@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
18 Jul 08
I used to go to a doctor who was wrong most of the time.
I always ended up spending the money to go to a better doctor and getting cured by him instead.
Maybe thats why he gave credit.
I once owed him for three months.
He drives a broken down car in a city where every other doctor earns better mnoey than a banker.
I am amazed by him. He smokes in his office and advises his patients not to smoke.
What a guy !
@StarChild517 (657)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Well I was 17 with reoccuring bladder infections the drs didnt know why I kept getting them but they said I had nothing to worry about but boy were they wrong I went to a specialist and found a lovely tumor and turned out half of it had cancer in it.
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@bdugas (3578)
• United States
18 Jul 08
I find it funny now with doctors, you go there they ask you what you are there for and you spell it all out for them, and they pay no attention to you at all. And you have to beg for the test that you feel you need. I come to Ohio from down south, I have been on the same medicine since I had the heart attack in 1998, you tell the doctor what you taking and it must be working if you still alive and it's no you dont' need that, well maybe she thinks so, but I think different. I have had to change doctors several times before I found one that will listen to you. I think they get so many people that complain about having some ailment and it is that nothing is wrong with them, it is more for attention than being sick and they treat everyone that way at first. I try to bring whatever papers I have from the other doctors and hospital stays so that they can see what problems I am having.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
19 Jul 08
Yeah it is absolutely crazy that you tell the doctor what is happening to you and what you think that is and it's like you didn't say anything at all.
It's even worse when you have been taking medication for a long time and then you switch doctors and they want to change your medication that has been working for you. It has happened to me and I am sure it has happened to others as well.
Thanks for responding.
Zelo
@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
18 Jul 08
The same type of thing happened to my wife with a bit of a different outcome unfortunately. My wife was told she would NEVER have children and then we were almost literally thrown out of the doctor's office.
Her tubes were shut and therefore she should not be able to have kids. She got pregnant again but again had a miscarriage... it is not that her tubes are closed but some other problem that is not being addressed.
It is quite frustrating to know there is a problem and not be able to get an answer to it.
Thanks
Zelo
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Yes, and it could have cost me my life. I went to the dermatologist to have a mole examined. It grew fast (within a year), was the size of my thumbnail, and so irregularly shaped it almost looked like a warped star. It also had three different colorshadings. I mean, duh, you read of that to be typical signs for skin cancer, but he just claimed it's nothing. Only after I insisted on a biopsy he reluctantly did it and sent it in. Three days later I got a call to come in ASAP. Turns out it was cancerous but fortunately was caught in time that a big incision removal would take care of things. If I would have believed the guy and not insisted on the biopsy, as fast as that thing grew in the first place... I don't want to think about it. I have to note, he did apologize over and over and over again. I just hope he learned his lesson and won't be so careless with other patients in the future. And yes, as soon as I switched insurance companies, I switched to another, more concerned, doctor.
Doctors don't know everything. They can fail. You, the patient, is in charge of your own healthcare. Only you know your body and know that something is seriously wrong even though the doctor says is nothing. If you have that nagging feeling and your complaints fall on deaf ears it's time for a second or even third opinion and some research of your own. A sad but true reality.
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
19 Jul 08
If you and me both know that if a mole grows in size and changes in color it could very well be cancerous and you say that a doctor dismisses it... why? He/she wants to see for himself. And while that happens there is time that is being wasted.
The best thing to do is exactly what you did! Find another doctor... if we don't put up with this type of service then hopefully doctors will either change or be forced to go out of business.
Glad to hear you are OK!
Zelo
@sudalunts (5523)
• United States
18 Jul 08
At eighteen years of age, i was experiencing numbness in my finger tips, double vision, headaches etc.
I went to my doctor, he got book and started asking me questions, "is your hair falling out", "are you having trouble breathing" etc. I do have allergies, but that was not the problem, nonetheless, he prescribes allergy medicine for me. I am getting no better, now I am staggering when I try to walk, my speech is slurred. I go to another doctor, and he admitted me into the hospital for tests.
I was in the hospital for one month. The prognosis was that I had MS, when I left the hospital I was told that I would be in remission for 15 years, and then the symptoms would reappear, and that I would probably be bined to a wheelchair. that was more than 30 years ago.
I still do not believe I had or have MS. So that goes to show that doctor's do not know everything, I had a neurologist as well so I guess the final diagnosis was his.
@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
19 Jul 08
Wow... MS... I would think that today there would be some simple test to determine if indeed you have or do not have MS and are "cured" or just in remission.
At least today there is a lot more testing going on... sometimes too many but if we can get it right the first time it is best to make sure to have hard facts to tell us what is wrong and not what is in a book!
Thanks for your response.
Zelo
@bianca0531 (427)
• Philippines
18 Jul 08
Luckily, I haven't been diagnosed yet so I haven't experienced that thing. So far, my doctor never fails me.
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@Afallingrock (289)
• United States
18 Jul 08
Lol well when that happen I think you need a new doctor.. Just kidding that'd be a horrible thing to say to someone, maybe your doctor just feels hes better qualified to make those decisions and such. Or that coul all be just a load and your doctor is just stuck up.
Answering your question i'd have to say no. I don't visit the doctors often and the times i do are mostly for check-ups and physicals. But if i had a broken bone and my doctor looked at me and my bent arm and said nothing was wrong, then I'd get a new doctor.