White Pride mother loses custody...
By whywiki
@whywiki (6066)
Canada
July 22, 2008 12:34pm CST
In Winnipeg Manitoba a woman lost custody of her children. Her young daughter had drawn a swastika on her arm and went to school. The teacher scrubbed it off. The mom drew it back on and sent the kid to school. The daughter was taken into custody and when family services visited the home and found white pride flags and such they took her son into custody too. I realize that the swastika is a little tactless to draw on your arm and really a big slap in the face to any Jewish person that sees it but...
Did she really deserve to loose custody of her children when in reality she was just showing her white pride. Would they take a black child away from her parents because they beleived in black pride or were in the black panthers. It seems that black people, natives,Asians and pretty much anyone can be proud of there roots but if it is white pride people get labeled as racist. Is it not racist for anyone to have pride of there heritage if it is wrong to be proud to be white?
I personally think that we should all be proud just to be human and the colour of our skin doesn't matter it is what is inside us that matters and how we interact with society. I have human pride.
Should she have lost her kids?
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5 responses
@stagewhisper (901)
• United States
22 Jul 08
I think the whole family should have gone into therapy. In a healthy situation you shouldn't need to show off your "pride" that way. I don't care what color, religion, gender, orientation, whatever you are, but if you have to parade said "pride" around in such a manner, there's something wrong and you need to have it addressed. It would be like me going around trying to show how much pride I have in having blue eyes. It just doesn't make sense.
I do think that taking the kids away on a first offense is harsh; therapy and perhaps some volunteer work might have done the trick. But if they'd persisted, then yes, the kids probably would have needed to be taken away eventually.
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@stagewhisper (901)
• United States
22 Jul 08
You're only invited to the blue-eye parade if your eyes are obviously blue. None of that blue-green silliness. 
Joking aside, yeah. We should all be proud of being human, but anything else- especially things we can't control? That's just silly.
Joking aside, yeah. We should all be proud of being human, but anything else- especially things we can't control? That's just silly.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
22 Jul 08
The swastika is a hateful symbol and displaying it on a child's body is more than just tactless. It also does not represent white pride...it represents white supremacy and hatred. I don't have enough information to know whether those children whould have been removed from the home or not but I suspect that that woman was not teaching them about white pride but about hating others.
@whywiki (6066)
• Canada
22 Jul 08
I think there is more to the story too. I am thinking this family has a history. The swastika is hateful indeed and even though mom regrets doing it the fact is she did and a normal woman wouldn't even think about doing it. I would be disgusted if a child of mine did something like that to begin with!
@Angelwhispers (8978)
• United States
24 Jul 08
Ouch this is one of those cases that you hear about and wonder if there was something else going on that we do not know about, because surly you can not have your children taken from you because of a moral or civil belief you hold. I know that the swastika is an ugly racial symbol. But that is all it is, a symbol and it hold no power over you if you do not let it. Wow, I can't wrap my head around that they took her kids. I would like to read about this one and its out come.
@nancyrowina (3850)
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23 Jul 08
I don't agree with the mothers sentiments if she'd encourage her child to draw a swastika on her arm but I don't believe she should have had her children taken away. We're supposed to have freedom of speech and expression after all and the price we pay for that is sometimes we hear and see things we don't like, surely they could have just had counseling and a bit of re-education to solve the problem.
If this woman had her kids taken away because she let one draw a swastika on herself what about the kids from the Westboro Baptist Church who make children hold placards that say disgusting anti-gay things mylot won't even let me type? Those children aren't being taken away because it's done under the guise of religion and the people behind the church are also up on the law and would have the money and power challenge any care order put on their kids, unlike this mother who probably couldn't afford a good lawyer or defend herself.
@nancyrowina (3850)
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23 Jul 08
Exactly they are sick and I think there's a good case for taking those kids away since they make them take part in public demonstrations holding placards they are too young to understand. It will never happen though as they know the law too well and have lawyers as members (in one documentary I saw about them the main woman who is the daughter of the leader has a daughter who's training to be a lawyer)
@whywiki (6066)
• Canada
23 Jul 08
Good point. I wasn't even thinking of our rights of expression. I don't agree with what she did but it is true many men and women fought for us to have this right. I have heard of the Westboro Baptist Church and seen them on You tube. They are one sick bunch of puppies alright!
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@lorelie78n (145)
• Philippines
22 Jul 08
First and foremost the symbol of swastika is not really a symbol of pride but it is a symbol of hate. Hate for the Jews and in return thousands were gassed and killed just because they were Jews.
It is but right for the children to be taken from their mother because they need be counseled. The mother should know better unless she is a supporter of the new breed of Nazi's that is emerging. White pride or any other races pride does have nothing to do with signs and symbols. Just by being proud of your roots and heritage and also cultural sensitive to others is enough to show how proud you are for who you truly are.
@whywiki (6066)
• Canada
22 Jul 08
Just what we need is a new breed of Nazi's! They did enough damage already. I find it so hard to believe in this so called enlightened age that people would want to be associated with such a hateful group. Relatives have custody of the kids right now and she only gets to visit a couple of hours a week. I wonder if these relatives have the same views as mom? I hope for the children's sake they get some therapy. It can't be a healthy way to grow up.
