A complete family

@mayka123 (16605)
India
July 23, 2008 3:04am CST
For me the defination of family is: [/b]F[b]ATHER [/b]A[b]ND [/b]M[b]OTHER [/b]I[b] [/b]L[b]OVE [/b]Y[b]OY In India it is a tradition that the elder son always stays with the parents. Very often all the sons stay with the parents but in some cases the younger sons take seperate houses and it is the duty of the eldest son to look after the parents. Nowadays we see that the sons and in some cases the daughter-in-laws find the presence of the parents in the house a hindrance. I had been brought up by my foster parents because my father died when I was just six months old. I did not feel the loss of my parent because I got all the love from my foster parents. My husband expired when my daughter was just 8 years old. And I have always felt sorry for her because she has missed out on the love and affection of a father in her growing years. What about all you mylotters. What is the tradition followed in your house/state/country. Are your parents living with you? If not why? And you parents who have grown up kids - are your kids with you or living seperately.
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@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
23 Jul 08
As far as first part of your discussion is concerned, I completely buy your arguments. It generally happens that if there are more than two brothers, parents stay with either of them and their respective daughters-in-law does not appreicate it. People are becoming self-centred and do not want to be disturbed by the presence of elderly in-laws. They prefer nuclear families and they forget what are the benefits of staying in a Joint family with in-laws or parents. They forget that one day they would also grow old and when their sons and daughters-in-law would part company with them, how would they feel. Compassion is dying down slowly but steadily for old and elderly people, which is very sorry state of affairs. I am really sorry to note that you lost your husband when your daughter was just 8 years old. Hopefully, God would have given you enough strength and courage to come out of the irrepairable loss.
@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
24 Jul 08
Thanks for agreeing with me. God is really great, it is HE, who would have given you the courage and still behind you so that you could fight the odds coupled with your own determination and positive will to fight the unfavourable situations. Best of Luck!
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
5 Aug 08
Sorry for the late reply but just the kind of words I needed today. Thanks for your resply and all the best.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
24 Jul 08
I completely agree with you that compassion is slowly dying down. Nowadays we find more and more old parents living on old-age homes. I just dont know how I have managed these 8 years and where I got the strength to cope.
@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
24 Jul 08
Hi Dear Mayka really sorry to hear all about ur parents and ur hubby, but i am sure u r giving all the love to ur daughter as Mother and father too, as u r really a nice Lady. Here in Pakistan, culture, customs are same as of your side, either elder son, or youngest one take care of parents, only they are living as Nuclear family. if they are living in Joint family then sure its more Fun. In my case, i am lucky that we are still living with our parents, i mean we three brothers who are married, while 4th one is in UK. but sure he will come back here. Father is decesion maker and i am glad so far their is no problem and i hope and pray that it will goon like this Take care
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@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
25 Jul 08
Hmmm u r right and i can co relate what u r saying but atleast u r trying hard, and u right, no one and nothing can replace any relation but its life dear and thanks for all the sweet wishes Take care
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
25 Jul 08
Yes I am trying hard but will never feel that I have done my best. Thanks a lot for your response and happy posting.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
25 Jul 08
It is difficult to take the place of both the father and mother especially when you have a full time job. I am just trying to do my best. The customs in India and Pakistan are almost the same. All the best to you and all in your big family. Happy posting.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
23 Jul 08
seems like everybody here can't wait to leave their parents home. i know i could't.i think they were as glad as me for me to leave. inever did get along w/them that well. they were not happy w/each other & my sister & i paid for that.i married young just toget away from them.my mother is gone now but our relstioship never did improve that much.my dad is still living & is in bad healt,i am not close to him either. i would have doneforeither of thembut mother didn't want me to.she latched on to my older sonbecause i never did please her w/anything i did.my dad had a son by another marriage so he never needed me either. just the way things go.
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@mayka123 (16605)
• India
24 Jul 08
Sorry to hear that your parents were not too attached to you. I have been brought up by my foster parents who are no more. My mother lives very close to me but she has never shown any love or affection so we hardly ever meet each other. As you say...just the way things go....
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
24 Jul 08
well, i truly sorry that your mother treats u that way. i don't understand people doing that to their children. one thing i was determined to be ws a good mom & i never wanted my sons to doubt that they wern't loved.it's not a good feeling.good luck to you& remeber what goes around comesaround & one day your mother will need you.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
5 Aug 08
Sorry for the delayed response. I guess should just wait and hope that our relationship does improve.
@nupats (3564)
• India
23 Jul 08
Yes dear i fully agre in our country still kids are responsible to take care of their aging parents but this is also dying tradition...i see my own grandmother she has 7 children all are well settled 4 daughters and 3 sons..she is 96 years old...my uncle left my bedridden grandmother alone in the village and went away on a vacation without giving a thought about her well being or making any other alternate arrangement all the children have retired and my dad is the only one still working his last two years before he retires from his job...surprisingly someone was needed to go and look after the mother all daughters and sons refused to take her and said put her in old age home my dad was very furious took leave flew down hired an ambulance and got her home and now my mom and dad look after her everyday....so you see we can consider ourselves lucky if our children look after us when we are old..
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@mayka123 (16605)
• India
24 Jul 08
It is really sad to see this old tradition dying. It so nice for the grand children to be having the grand parents to look after them and teach them. Its nice that your parents are looking after your grand mother. How is she now? And yes I would really consider myself lucky if my kids look after me when I am old...
@nupats (3564)
• India
24 Jul 08
hi dear my grandmother is 96 years old..
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
5 Aug 08
Hi nupats, Hope your grandmother is well.
@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
24 Jul 08
Here in America, most kids move out of their parents home when they get married. I got married and never lived with my parents again, except for a 6 month period when my husband was sent overseas with the Air Force. That was long before we had our children. Both my kids have homes of their own. My daughter did live with us for about a year when she was divorced, before she remarried. But she would never want to live with us all the time. I think married couples do need to be out on their own. And, older parents sometimes live with a family member, if they are by themselves and disabled. But more and more opt to go to an assisted living place where they have the ability to have their own place, but also someone is around to be company and also to help them, if they do need help.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
25 Jul 08
You have the mindset there that you have to move out. My nieces in America have also moved out when they grew up. Its just here in the Asian countries that this is a bit difficult to digest.
@nini89 (670)
• India
24 Jul 08
Thanks and very nice to read the traditions and living style. Mostly iin India alos people do stay away from perents after marriage but in some cases they stay with their parents as if they dont have to search for a new house. If the parents are alone they also don't send their son and daughter- inlaw to a sepeerate house.
@boerema (60)
24 Jul 08
I am a college student so im in a transitional stage from leaving my house to living on my own. I'm quite an independent person so I was more than eager to take the steps to living on my own. Although I will still spend time at my parents house and stay there for a weekend on ocassion, I definently enjoy living on my own much more because of the freedom. Generally the tradition in my family is to live at home until about 18 and then slowly transition into living on your own while in college. In America, I think this is the typical scenario for most families.
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@mayka123 (16605)
• India
25 Jul 08
When you are brought up with the mind set that you have to live on your own when you grow up then you look forward to it. Here the scenario is different and it is difficult to change our mindset now.
@nini89 (670)
• India
24 Jul 08
Thanks. As we are in mylot we come to know the traditions of diffterent countries. You might be enjoying by living independent. But can you specify the difference of living with parents and indepent living.
@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
23 Jul 08
It's not common that parents live with their kids in Holland, but it happens occaissonaly. There are pretty good alternatives for elderly to live in houses that have a special bell with which they can ring someone for help but is entirely independant. There are also carehomes for the elderly allthough there are bad rumours about them it doesn't have to be a bad place if there are enough people to visit and you like to do activities with other people; it's not suitable for anyone. My grandma lived with us untill she passed away. My mom never moved out, my dad merely moved in and it has been like that forever. It was nice to have here around that much and I feel that it's a great thing. My mom doesn't want to live with me and my boyriend because she has experienced the impact on her life caring for het mother who needed quite a lot of medical attention and she could never leave the house when she pleased and allways needed to look out for her first. She did this with love but it has had a great impact on her and she doesn't want me to have the same thing. Both my mom and my dad are people who love activiteit, my mom would be one of the old grannies knitting and sowing and talking to anyone and everyone; making herself a good time rather then sitting around. But then again; everyone's different. If I had to I'd take her in a heartbeat and my dad aswell but she doesn't want it herself and my dad neither.
@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
24 Jul 08
I wouldn't like it either but I respect their wishes if they want to do so, I see no point in dragging them along with me if they don't want too. I can see why it can be hard to understand as I myself have a hard time understanding. We are all different I guess and I respect their choices. Thank you for your response.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
24 Jul 08
Life with your own family and kids and life in a carehome is completely different. In a carehome one cannot get the love and affection that one can get from their own kids. I would not like to be living in a carehome when I grow old.
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@riyasam (16556)
• India
11 Aug 08
we live with our in-laws.although we get enough of love from them,there is lot of interference which is making our life a hell.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
13 Aug 08
Guidance from elders is good. Interference is not welcome.
• Australia
31 Aug 08
I grew up and left home, came back to live while I was trying to save some money and now I am living with my wife's parents who live on the same property as Wife's sister. What a bizarre twist of fate. But I am trying to step back out on our own by purchasing a new home.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
12 Sep 08
All the best to you. Hope you manage to buy your own house soon.
@kwenge (2487)
• Kenya
24 Jul 08
For us we live separately. My mother lives in the countryside alone with a househelp while all of us kids live in the city in separate houses. My husband's parents live and work in the city and they are living separately with his two sisters who are not married yet. Parents can go visiting their children and vice versa but living together depends if they are not well or not working and its not a must they live with us. IN African tradition once a child is 18 years old they move out of parents house and live nearby until they marry thats when they can move further and start there own families. Personaly I dont find living together with parents in-laws or my parents a bother/hinderance............infact its a blessing because they can guide us when we go wrong.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
25 Jul 08
I agree that having parents or parents in laws around are a great help for us. They can not only guide us but help in in raising our kids. They will be able to spare more time for the kids that we can. Thanks a lot for your response and happy posting.
@roshand8 (1478)
• Sri Lanka
23 Jul 08
My parents want us to carry on a separate life after marriage,My parents also lived like that but,always took care of my grand parents too,they often went to see them and we have a happy big family.My parents just love to be alone and spend their time relaxing,They consider husband and wife as a another family so does my grand parents.I know some families live together with their brothers and sisters and having many problems in their families.cheers..
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@mayka123 (16605)
• India
24 Jul 08
While it is good for the kids to carry on with their own lives it is difficult for a single parent to be living alone after the kids marry and seperate. While my husband was living I lived with my inlaws and did not have any problems there. Due to his business we had to go to another city and settle and I really missed them a lot.
• Philippines
25 Jul 08
Here in the Philippines we also have a tradition to take good care of our parents when they need assistance. Most often the daughters are the ones giving good care of the old and sick parents because the Son, or men are not good at that and we can't rely of the daughter's in-law. Most daughter's in law are not good with their parent's in-law. There is always conflict when it comes to taking care of the old folks if you trust it to the in=laws. So then, most often the daughters whether she has her own family or not are the once looking after the old folks.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
26 Jul 08
I think it is a good idea of daughters looking after the parents. Here in India also many families follow that. But then society does not accept the situation.
@aendzie (571)
• Philippines
25 Jul 08
We don't have specific tradition when it comes to family, but I guess most asian countries are patriarchal which means in the family the guy should be the boss and the dominant one. But I didn't grow up this way, [well, because my mom and dad almost have equal say to almost everything] although I have so much respect with my father, I think that men should be more powerful than women. I'm not putting myself down coz I'm a female, but I think men should be more responsible,stronger, flexible and so on. so whenever I see men depending on women, it's a total turn off. How do I define family? sticking together through thick and thin, I am so proud of Filipino families because no matter what happen, whether they have food to eat or none, they're still together, they believe that being complete makes them survive the poverty, will make them happy. so Family means ONE.
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
25 Jul 08
I think we Asians always think of the men in the family as the more responsible and the stronger one. Yes its good when the whole family stays together. Thanks a lot for your response and happy posting.
@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
24 Jul 08
[i]We have different situation in life as far as family ties is concern. In our country mostly when the son/daughter was married,they are still in their parents position care.We have close and intimate relationship with our parents. [/i]
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
25 Jul 08
Yes and I like this situation. Thanks a lot for your reponse and happy posting.
@nini89 (670)
• India
24 Jul 08
Thanks for mylotting. Good to hear that in your country after marriage also you all stay with your parents care. Here in India also some cases are of the same that after marriage if the perents are of good background, they takes care of their children.
• India
6 Aug 08
Dear friend, there was a time when all family members were living to gather, my father and his siblings were living to gather, then as situation arise all siblings departed, now I and my brother's family living togather but new generation, nowadays no new generation like to live togather as family, so I can't say about my brother's sons and his family !! because todays time is very complicated !
@mayka123 (16605)
• India
13 Aug 08
Yes we cannot say anything about the new generation as they like to have more freedom and do not understand the benefits of living in a joint family. Todays generation is very complicated.