Who Can Vote For Someone Who Thinks There Are 57 States!I

I know, but believe it or not some people actually think he doesn't know how many states there are and others think there's a sinister meaning to it, like he was referring to how many "Islamic states" there are. Annie

Even when Iam not tired,which is rarely,I have plenty slips of the toungue and Iam not stupid.I am not the smartest cookie on the block,but...... People criticise Bush for have slips of the toungue as well as Obama.They are only human and never claimed to be otherwise.They are both tired people.When Obama asked how he was he said he was standing.And none of you with kids can not say that you have never called one the other's name.Heck when I was a kid,I even got called the dogs name.

"57 states? can get over that, unless it were to become a habit." Yeah, making the mistake over and over is a different story, of course. You know, like stating at least four different times that Iran (which is Shiite) was training Al Qaeda (a Sunni extremist group), including at least once AFTER being corrected on it? Enter John McCain.

What seems to be really ironic here is that Obama gets a free pass with his "tongue slips" because he's operating on very little sleep and McCain is crucified for his! I guess John gets ALL 8 hours of his beauty sleep each night! Rubbish! Tell me why Obama refuses to debate McCain in a town hall setting! I'll tell you why; without his teleprompter he will look like the village idiot!

Taskr36, I know you know this was really meant to be tongue-in-cheek, and it was also meant to put things into perspective a bit. Of course we all have slips of the tongue, trust me I'd never deny that, I've had my share of doozies...lol! You have to admit the things that McCain has "slipped" on haven't been reported nearly as much as those that Obama has had. If I were able to take a poll of every myLot member from the U.S. and everyone answered and answered HONESTLY I'd bet less than 10% ever heard about McCain claiming in Pittsburgh that he'd named the Steelers line-up when being interrogated as a POW while he'd said it was the Packers for years prior to that. The way that story was told there was no way it was a "slip of the tongue". I couldn't agree more about if you accidentally call your best friend by the wrong name doesn't mean you're old or foolish or whatever. My mom has called me by my aunt and her sister's name many times and long before she was "old". I've called my granddaughter by my daughter's name, my brother by my son-in-law's name and the list could go on and on. You know I'm pro-choice, right? Well, I've already said "pro-life" when I meant "pro-choice" and I didn't realize I'd said it until it was pointed out to me. THAT is the kind of "slip" Obama had when he said there are 57 states. At least some of McCain's "misspeaks" have been a bit more complex than that and they've been repeated too frequently in some cases to be just a slip of the tongue but nobody seems to care. You said, "Of course, you don't get that luxury when you're running for president." I have to add to that, "Unless you're John McCain". Annie

You and I must not be getting our news from the same sources. I've seen every one of McCain's mistakes from the Germany/Russia mistake, to the Iraq/Afghanistan mistake. People like David Letterman and Jay Leno poke fun at McCain at every possible opportunity, but say nothing about Obama's mistakes. When asked about it they both claimed he just isn't making those mistakes so they don't have much to work with. Apparently they aren't seeing the news report Obama's mistakes either. I only hear about his mistakes here on mylot for the most part.

It isn't exactly the same, to be fair. Obama, like any other human being, has slips of the tongue. But take, for example, McCain making the incorrect statement that Iran was training Al Qaeda (Shiites training Sunni extremists? In what reality?). Now, this wasn't a statement he made once--he made it at least three or four times. Then Joe Lieberman corrected him in public with the ol' whisper in the ear. Soon after, he made the same incorrect statement AGAIN. You can't hand-wave something like that away. Either McCain was intentionally lying there, or he TRULY is ignorant of who's who in the Middle East.

I think he only wrote two, didn't he? To answer your question, no I haven't read either, or any, of his books but please, tell me what you mean about being "scary". I've read posts from others here who gave his books good reviews and highly recommended them so I'm really interested in what you got from them that was so different from these other people. Annie

Why would you say that his books are scary, there are high intellectual and influential persons worldwide that has endorsed his books. So I would like you to elaborate why you describe it as scary.

I have only been to a different time zone once.I went from east coast to west coast as well,but on a bus.I too was messed up.Then,I came back.UGH! That was when I was a teenager.Then,I had 2 children 3 years apart.My first baby was colicy and had monthly ear infections.When he just turned 3 and I was 6 months pregnant he woke up with a horrible ear ache in the middle of the night.I was in th ER on a Friday night in my condition.Tired! Wow ! Then when my boys were teenagers coming in at late hours I had my third baby.As soon as I get her back to sleep after the feeding,they'd come in being loud teenagers as usual.Now I homeschool my daughter and babysit my 20 month old grandaughter.So,I know what it is to not be able to talk or think right.

You know, I really do feel for all of the candidates with all the traveling they have to do in different time zones and going without sleep and having no semblance of a "normal" schedule. I've only traveled into a different time zone a few times in my life, in my case it was from the east coast to the west coast of the U.S. and I have to tell you, everything I'd ever heard about "jet-lag" is true and then some. I honestly don't know how they do it! For me, it took several days for me to get used to the Pacific time and by the time I did it was time to come home and I was all screwed up here for days...lol Annie

Red, what is his position regarding Christianity??

This discussion was poking at how a slip of the tongue is taken out of text and run with forever. To that I agree. I think all parties do that stuff. Like I could say how all that media who are traveling with Mr Obama haven't even offered that to Mr McCain, let alone all go with. Springlady, I won't vote for him either. I don't agree with his position where Christianity is concerned. I know that isn't supposed to be part of politics but that has been laid on my heart. And, I don't like how the other day while meeting with the Iraqi leaders, he acted as though he was setting policy! Talking like he is the president already, how arrogant!

Government's all over the world are masters at accounting tricks. They give with one hand but take even more with the other. America's figures just look larger than everyone else because the US of A has the world's largest economy. Here in tinny Singapore, the government plays the books brilliantly. We raise our sales tax by 2 percent and then cut corporate tax rates by 3 percent, claiming that its very necessary for the poor people to pay more than rich corporations, who have loopholes. Of course, after raising the sales tax, the guys who run the place promptly increased their salaries - our Prime Minister makes four times more than the President of the USA for running a country that is only a suburb of Washington DC. So, what I'm saying is, don't put too much faith into figures provided by politicians because statistics can always be massaged and certain aspects of a budget can be highlighted to such an extent that you are distracted from doing any math into how this whole thing actually works out.

Right now the Guest workers are not coming across the border in the numbers that they used to. Partly because our job market is slipping and partly because they are demanding more money for their menial labor. Yeah they want more than $16 an hour and free medical and whatever else they can get. That is another reason famers are growing corn and other crops that can be machine processed. No expensive labor!

When McCain's adviser said we've become a nation of whiners, I wonder if in his mind he included people who are blaming Mexicans just because they can't find a job. Instead of getting rid of the illegals, the next time we want to raise minimum wage, we lower income taxes instead. Think about this if minimum wage is $7.50 after taxes you keep about 2/3 on average so now you have $5.00 an hour. When the government raises min wage to $8.00 you get .50C more an hour right? no. 2/3 of 8 is 5.33 an hour. So you get a .33 cent raise and the government gets one to. How large? @ 7.50 - 5.00 = 2.50 the government gets every hour you work @ 8.00 - 5.33 = 2.67 Now multiply that .17 by the number of minimum wage workers, for ten they make 1.70, for a hundred they make 17.50 for a thousand 175.00. For the 1.6 million said to be on it $286,110 an hour, an eight hour day? $2,228,880. A 40 hour week? 11 million. A 52 week year? 595 million. And this is just the amount of increase not the total number made off of minimum wagers. After raising minimum wage the government makes 595 million more a year, while an individual makes .33 * 8 * 7 * 52 = $960.96, which isn't so bad, except the strain on the company is the full .50 per employee... or .50 * 8 * 7 * 52 = $1,456/minimum wager 7.50 * 66.667% (intake) = 5.00 7.50 * X = 5.33? 5.33 / 7.50 = 71.06 (intake) 100 - 71.06 = ~29% So if you decreased income tax by 4% for minimum wagers, they would gain the same benefit if the government raised minimum wage by 7% (8.00 * X = 7.50; X = .9375; 1 - X = .0725.) The employers would maintain the same pay rate for their employees, the employees would get the same benefit... however the government would be out a little bit (4% on min wage earners). However the government could easily add that 4% onto something else... like luxury items, or those who make over 200,000... (heck for those that make that much an hour could could probably raise it by 1% and still make more then the 4% on the min wagers) Whoa, that was long, I shall have to put that in a blog now. Instead, if the government peeled back the income tax a bit (from 33% to Where if instead of raising the rate per hour and sucking that money out of these people and the companies they work for you could drop the income tax rate from 33% to about. Without the 7% increase strain on companies, they may be less likely to outsource workers.

Out of curiosity, what are some of these many negative things you've heard? If it's that he's a Muslim, went to a Muslim school, isn't a U.S. citizen, refused to salute the flag, was sworn in on the Koran to name a few, these are all false. Annie

I don't want to get into a political argument or anything, I just am not going to vote for him. I am Republican, not Democrat. I have seen a picture of him not saluting the American flag and read where he refuses to. And yes, the things you mentioned are a few things I have heard. Whether they are true or not makes no difference to me because like I said.. I am NOT voting for him anyway. Have a nice day. :)

Thanks for your response and for replying back to me so soon just now. That's certainly your choice to not vote for him, I was just curious about what the negatives things were that you'd mentioned. For what it's worth, the stories that he refuses to salute the flag aren't true and the picture you've seen it probably the one where the National Anthem is playing but they claim it was during the Pledge of Allegiance. Some people place their hands over their heart during the Anthem just as they do during the Pledge but in my area very few do that during the Anthem and those few that do are mostly the elderly, such as World War II veterans. Annie

All of these assertions about obama are complete myths or outright lies. I'm not an obama supporter because I don't like his experience level. But the lies are out of control. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

"how about the brilliant statement by his wife after his nomination "this is the first time we are proud to be americans"" That's not what she said, and you should be ashamed of spreading false information. She was talking about seeing, for the first time in her adult life, a really massive outpouring of participation and support in the election process. If you would have listened to: 1. The actual words (giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were lied to, as opposed to knowing the real quote and lying about it intentionally) 2. The entire statement, not just the sound bite Fox News paraded around You wouldn't have made such an embarassing mistake. Even Laura Bush came to Michelle's defense on this issue, yet here people like you still are, parading BS around as if it's the truth. You really should be ashamed of yourself. "Not to mention he did attend an islamic radical school as a child" Nonsense. There was no religious instruction at the overseas school he attended at ALL. Interviews with the people who run the actual school have shown that they welcome people of all faiths and there's nothing radical about it at all. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-070325obama-islam-story,1,6117033.story "still refuses to place his hand over his heart" He has never REFUSED to do that--in fact, he's LED the Pledge of Allegiance several times as a Senator. Here's video of him doing exactly that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIyBwkuqF4E "or be sworn in on the bible" He WAS sworn in on the Bible, doofus. This is a matter of public record. Don't you fact-check any of the nonsense right-wingers feed you? "I read an email of a statefarm sign that said "Americans voting for Obama is like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders" How funny is that? How much more truthful can you get?" Uh, infinitely more. Obama's never killed any Americans, so how does that analogy make any sense whatsoever? Whoever came up with it has neither wit nor sense.

Thank you, ClarusVisum. You covered it all. Bravo.

Do you really believe he thinks there's 57 states? Come on, you're kidding with me, aren't you? Annie

Well either he thinks there 57 states.That or he has a bit of stage fright. Well,then which do you think it is?

I'm seriously roflmao!!! Did you really take me seriously? Please rest assured I did NOT vote for Bush and there's no possible way I'd ever have even thought of doing such a thing! I meant this as satire, not to be taken at face value, to point out the double standards of people and the silly things they pick at instead of worrying about real problems. Unfortunately, there are people who do take these things seriously and who believe every stupid rumors that are being e-mailed everyday but those who are making up stories about Obama being a radical Muslim and not being a U.S. citizen. Since there's now evidence there may have been life on Mars, that's what I expect to read next - Obama may be a Martian! Annie

No problem! I just wanted to make sure everyone knows I didn't vote for Bush! Annie

sorry Annie i didnt get your humor..now i read your post again and i got it...really...really sorry..but my english is not so fluenty anymore...it was better some years ago.. Nun

I must reply, suspense, but only because you told me not to. I have 5 kids and I spend my life tired as a result. When I am calling them, I go through all of the names, including the dog and the cat and the rabbit. And for this, I do not have to brush up on my history. Walking in their shoes, I can fault neither of them for their slip ups. OK, that is my reply.

Now, Suspenseful, I must agree if you or I or most anyone here were to mistakenly use the former names of these countries it wouldn't be a big deal but WE'RE not running for President. You wrote, "If McCain did that, they would not have made excuses, so I guess it depends on whether you are a Democrat who can get away with anything and a Republican who can get away with nothing." I must respectfully disagree here. I'm not sure how much, if any, U.S. news you watch but I can assure you, McCain has made numerous blunders which have received almost no airtime leading me to suspect there have been others that nobody has heard about at all. For me, "forgetting" which NFL team he named while being interrogated as a POW and giving credit for something happening to the surge when it actually happened before the surge are far more important than getting one digit wrong. Calling the former Russian President the President of Germany is rather important as well but I'll give him a bit of a pass there because maybe he meant to say Russia but had Obama done that we'd never hear the end of it. One more thing - do you mind if I ask you what you meant by your last sentence? Annie

HHHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!! Annie

I'm beginning to almost regret having started this post. I don't want to offend anyone, believe me I don't, but I can't believe after all the responses here there are still people who seem to take this seriously or are they joking? Of course Obama KNOWS how many states there are! He misspoke, that's it. Annie

Do you mean more intelligent than Bush? Annie

You're right and that was my point exactly. I know it was a simple slip of the tongue, which if I got attacked for every one I've had I'd be in pretty bad shape by now! I was trying to make the point of how people are making a major issue out of someone making a very simple mistake while they're overlooking some far more serious gaffes by his opponent which aren't nearly so easily explained away. Annie

OK, is it me or is it everyone else? Obviously he knows how many states there are, this wasn't meant to be taken seriously. We currently have a President with no intelligence/common sense so I think we've already been led into a deep enough hole. I'm sorry I guess I didn't make the intent of this post clear enough. Annie