Should our taxes pay for their screw up??
By danimalhite
@danimalhite (141)
United States
July 23, 2008 5:19pm CST
So congress is probably going to bail out Fannie May and Freddie Mac, or should I say we are probably going to. What do you think?? Do you think our taxes should go to help them get out of trouble? I mean they are the ones that gave all these loans out in the first place. Have you ever noticed seems like we are always letting major corporations get away with murder. I mean we have oil companyies getting millions in tax breaks. We let corporations file bankruptcy so they do not have to clean up enviromental messes and now we get to pay for Fanny and Freddie because they gave to many loans to people taht could not pay. When we get loans dont they increase the intrest rate for higher risk people incase things like this happen. I say let it hit bottom for a while and let someone else give it a try. I say give the money to the people losing their houses and not to the company that loaned them the money.
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5 responses
@shlooper (309)
• United States
24 Jul 08
It makes me angry when I read about government getting involved with corporations to begin with. We have this thing in the United States called a Free Market Economy, that means "every man for himself" basically. By stepping in and helping a corporation, the government is undermining its own economic structure. It creates unfair competition and all of the things that a free market is designed to avoid. Yes it would be bad for everyone involved to let them hit rock bottom, but it is something that our economy allows for, and encourages. It reduces corruption and keeps monopolies from occurring.
@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
24 Jul 08
If Government controls it then they are responsible for not monitoring what was happening. THis didn't happen overnight. Government waited until the greedy got everything they could get out of it and then allowed it to collapse and pretended they just found out.
@danimalhite (141)
• United States
24 Jul 08
Gets involved?? They control it. They let stockholders run it but they control it. It's not really a free market if our gov controls it. So if it fails then so does our economy. And they would not let that happen.
@danimalhite (141)
• United States
25 Jul 08
Well its kind of a difficult process. See the government controls Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac but the are privatley owned corpaorations,this means people can buy stock in these corporations. See the bale out process would make shares available for congress to buy. This would probably be between the 2 and 3 billion dollars worth. See Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are in with HUD and all the government housing for the poor and elderly. If these corporations went under then there would not be in housing beening built for these people. Releasing these billions of dollars would still allow these corporations to run everyday business untill thing get back to normal. This is also very important to our economy because, all the loans that these corporations have gave to people are now owned by overseas banks. So if we went belly up on all these loans this would look very bad to other countries and would strectch relations.
If you have more questions just ask.
I mean it's going to happen we are going to bail them out. The only question is how much are we going to give them and is it going to happen again. this is the SECOND time for Fannie Mae. So it's just a matter of more checks and balanaces.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
24 Jul 08
The biggest problem with the Fannie May and Freddy Mac failures is that they are the major lenders for all low income and Public Housing Building. So this year and maybe for years to come, there will be little or no new Housing for the poor and Elderly.
Their failure is partly caused by no one buying up the tax credits as investments. Money is being spent everywhere but there. The tax credits do not pay as high or fast a yield as some other investments so they are not as interesting anymore. But they are still the main form of funding allowed by HUD for low income housing.
Once again the Elderly and the very poor are shoved under the rug!
Shalom~Adoniah
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
24 Jul 08
I do not think that this is a rerun of the enron thing. I am not saying that the EXOs are not also responsible, but there are other outside influences. I think time will bring out the whole story. I believe there will be more failings to come. Americans had better be ready to hang onto their shirttails for awhile and not trust anyone except themselves!
In the end, I fear that more and more of America will be owned by China and India and even the Nordic countries. Nothing is truely American anymore. Everything is owned by a conglomerate of countries or corporations. I do not like it and neither do most Americans, but how do we as individuals stop it when they are simply after the almighty dollar? No on cares about quality or pride anymore!
Shalom
@danimalhite (141)
• United States
24 Jul 08
Yep it's a little crazy how we are supposed to have a series of checks and balances in our government. Have you seen how much the pres and vp of Fannie mae made? Unreal how much. For how long they were able to do it without anyone saying anything. Fannie Mae scandal hasn't gotten as much pres as the Eron thing but maybe it is more important because it reflects systematic issues of corporate America.
@shoffman2000 (560)
• Alexandria, Virginia
24 Jul 08
Something needs to be done otherwise there will be a painful situation more painful than 1929 Who wants something significant rerun of 1929 or worse
@danimalhite (141)
• United States
24 Jul 08
It's crazy how about 6 people can be responsible for the fall of the middle class and they do not have to held accountable.
@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
24 Jul 08
I don't think our tax money should bail them out. My only concern is people facing loss of their home. I think it is a very serious problem. But I am not totally understanding this bail out process. Does it benefit the homeowner or just the financial institutions? The government should stop turning a blind eye to corporate greed. That's what gets us into these predicaments to begin with.
@danimalhite (141)
• United States
25 Jul 08
they kept playing with numbers making it look like they were making all this money because they were giving loans to everyone over this 5 or 6 year period. dude went from making 2.4 millions a year to 24 millions a year. And now our market is paying for it. Ohh yeah he also took an early retirement at 55. Name is frank raines.
@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
23 Jul 08
Good post i rated you positive.
That's one indication that the government
is really biased. I agree with you, give the money
to those who lost their house not to the company who
loaned them. The people needed it most, shall we say
give the help to the ones who really needed it. To
lessen the problem. To help cure the origin of the problem
you must treat the roots or else the same problems keep coming
back. So in this case, the people who loaned the money is the
roots and the only way to help them is to lend them money for
the houses with little interest or nothing at all. I think the
government should do something about it instead of helping those
big companies with their problems.
@danimalhite (141)
• United States
23 Jul 08
Well it just seems a bit weird to me. In the real world, where I am from, you have to work for your money. 40 to 50 hrs a week. Just like the people losing their houses work for their money. If you don't do your job then you lose it. I used to own a business and after about 3 years I went belly up. No one was there to bail me out. Sorry it's called life.
Thanks for your response!!!!