Yet again..another poser!!

@ruby222 (4847)
July 25, 2008 7:26am CST
Here on the news this morning there was a story of a young girl,under sixteen by far,who had made arrangemnts to go and meet a man she had `MET` on the internet.She had by all accounts been `TALKING` to this man via a messaging service on the net.She had planned to buy a train ticket to go and meet him...but it seems that her parents caught on to what was happening,so they obviously intervened.I have no young children at home now,but they were talking about the importance of centralizing the computer,so that is was visible to all who walked past it..and not shut in a bedroom...and the importance of using parental controls...maybe dowenloaded form an internet site.Im sure this discussion has probably come up before,but im very interested to hear how you `POLICE` your child while he/she surfs the net..and the steps that you may take to ensure that your child is safe at all times..thankyou..
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• United States
26 Jul 08
I have a 17 year old daughter and thank God I can trust her,however even the most trustworthy kid can make a life altering mistake,as we adults can also.I have a program on her computer that keeps track of every keystroke she makes,I go in and read everything from time to time.I did catch her chatting through my space once with a 30 year old guy that said he lived in Ireland.I asked her about this and she told me she met him through her friends my space and he was her uncle.I of course had to check all this out for myself to be sure and as it turned out he was this girls uncle and did live in Ireland.Since I was able to read everything she ever typed to him I was also able to see that it was innocent,he just listened to her complain about school and stuff,and they often chatted about her friend his niece so I was O.K. with this.However if I was not able to track everything she typed to him I may have been left to wonder.I also once caught an instant messenger conversation she had with a boy that lived one town away from us.I knew who this boy was we had met him through other friends of ours.After reading the conversation I was able to see that my daughter was very naive because she wasn't following what he was typing.He was very perverted,and I was pleased to see that when she figured it out she told him she didn't want to chat with him anymore and blocked him. I feel so far I am one of the lucky parents,too often children are looking for more then what they have in their own home or school.They are looking for love and acceptance that they don't feel they are getting.( not necessarily because they aren't getting it,just they don't feel they are ) they go looking for it in the wrong places,I wish they never came up with my space,and I wish there were better ways to stop these kids from meeting strangers online.But there really isn't much that can be done even if you monitor it at home,what about when they are at their friends house or the library?They can do what they want there.I think the best a parent can do is continually explain the dangers to their children and hope they listen.The parents you were talking about obviously pay attention or they never would have caught it and it would have been too late for their daughter. Jas
@ruby222 (4847)
26 Jul 08
At least your daughter seems to have taken the sensible route and dropped the chap who she was talking to.Its a shame that we have to act as though we are paranoid,but im afraid it makes us like it!I know that theres a way of recording all messenger conversations,but it seem awful that you would maybe have to go to those lengths to check on your child...but there isnt a lot more that can be done,if they are as you point out at a friends or at the library then they arent being monitored at all then,so it is completely out of our hands!
@chrislotz (8137)
• Canada
18 Oct 08
We can protect our children by knowledge. I always made sure my children heard, whether on the news or in the newpaper, of things that have happened to others because of trusting everyone. But even in doing that things happen. My daughter, who is now 25 years old, went through a bad experience when she was 15 years old. She met a guy on the computer and talked to him several times and then gave him our phone number. They started a friendship over the phone and after he got her trust he had her invite him over to our house when my husband and I weren't home. Now we always told her to not have friends over when we weren;t home, but you know kids will try anything and they don't always listen to us. So she invited him over when we weren't home and when she opened the door for him she saw he was not some 16 year old like he told her but a 40 year old man. She tried to close the door on him but he broke his way in and he raped and beat her. We came home, my husband and I, to the police all over the house and neighbourhood and an ambulance taking my daughter away. I jumped into the ambulance and my husband followed with his car. To make this story shorter, as it is really complicated, the guy finally got caught just two years ago. He got caught red handed this time and his DNA matched up with the DNA they got from my daughter and he is now finally in jail where he belongs. Besides my daughter and the girl he got caught with, it turns out this guy has raped another 6 girls that came forward during his trial. He is now in jail forever I hope, he got 25 years. So as much as we teach our children to be careful they will still try to do things on the internet that we don't know about so you need to be aware at all times what she is doing on it. We need to know who she is talking to at all times. It is really scarry what has happened to our world and the internet just makes it easier for those nuts to find these young children. Be very carefull with your children and always know who they are talking to.
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@ruby222 (4847)
18 Oct 08
A cautionary tale here,thankyou for sharing it with us,I am sure that it will be an eye opener for many .
@kbkbooks (7022)
• Canada
27 Jul 08
I saw a news story this past week about a "woman" who was communicating with a man in his late 30s. They fell in love, and the "woman" travelled to meet this man. It turned out that the "woman" was only 12, and the man had to give up on his "dreams" even though he claimed to authorities that this was the love of his life. Here is a story of a man being himself and the girl posing as someone much older. I am not sure if there were any charges of luring a minor or some other such thing, but if I had been a parent of this child, I would not hesitate to lay charges, even if the girl seemed to be at fault. For sure, the child also deserves a strict punishment. The virtual world just gets scarier all the time.
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@ruby222 (4847)
27 Jul 08
It is bizarre,because literally anyone can pose as anyone on the internet,and no one will know any different!but its so sad to think that that is needed.but generally it is happening all around us.It just strenthens the point that when we use the internet we must be slightly on guard,just in case there is a minor at the other end.
• United States
26 Jul 08
It just amazes me that this girl being so young would want to put her life in danger the way she was doing. I am glad the parents caught on and interviened the way they did good for them . Not all parents have parental controls set up on their computers and they should for it's for the saftey of thier kids not knowing what sites they are visiting and whom they are chatting with. This girl probably would have wound up hurt in a very bad way if her parents didn't catch on to her. I hope she had the fear put into her and that she won't be doing this again.
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@ruby222 (4847)
26 Jul 08
I hope that she will learn from this too,but time after time we see countless numbers of young girls being duped by mature men,and im not tha naive to think that it couldnt work the other way around either!but if a child entered a chat room for example,they would have no idea of who they are chatting to,and the same goes for us as adults,but we should at least have the common sense to treat them for what they are ,there are many there on the net who have many identities,and its sad that our youngsters cannot have internet access without being put at risk.
@TantrooM (61)
• United States
27 Jul 08
I have been on the internet since I was 13, my parents did step in when I was 15 and made a blind mistake, I had met someone on a online gaming site (directed toward kids) and they found out about it. My parents may not be as technology sound as I am, but I seriously misunderstood at that young age how much my parents actually knew of such dangers before they were part of a 'mainstream' problem (I was 15 8 years ago... that would be 1999/2000 area...) It is important that you keep a foothold on your child's doings on your machine. You should not have to tell them you are spying on them, as many claim you do. They are still dependents under you, and until they are otherwise, you are their caretaker. Which means you have to make sure you feed them, clothes them, put them on the road to succeed (though they are the only ones who can drive the car), and especially keep them safe. A good way to do this is to install some sort of software that keeps tabs of the activities on your internet and mails them to you, which are available. Or if you can't find that use a 'ghostwriter' which keeps a record of keys typed on the computer. You should do this while you 'setup' your child's machine before they password protect everything. Hopefully though, the parent doesn't abuse this spying thing, as if it for anything other then 'keeping them safe', just to shape them how you want them shaped... then you are overstepping your bounds. If you find them typing liberal believes, and you are a hard concervative, don't confront them on their messages (especially if they write them under an alias, cause then they'll be suspicious). Instead open political dialog with them, have debates... Unfortunately not all parents are mature enough to use their powers wisely.
@ruby222 (4847)
27 Jul 08
Perfectly true,you dont ewant to rule them with a rod of iron and monitor there every move,thats not logical,or fair,you just want to make sure that they know the boundaries and the sites that are safe to visit and those that arent.Its hard as a child not to be curious,and to want to go to the sites that contain the things that you should nt be seeing..like the saying goes,the forbidden fruits are always the best,but its just not safe now to let them surf freely.I do think the point that you have made about debating with them is a fgood one,if they are encouraged to put forward their points of view,and you take part with them,yes that a very good idea,and as they get older im sure that there are some online debating sites specailly designed for young people.
@movicont (495)
• United States
26 Jul 08
My parents don't police me, and I'll be frank when I say that I don't think I need (or want) policing. I think I can handle myself on the internet--I wouldn't be naive enough to arrange a trip with someone I've never met--that's just not going to work out. When I speak with people online, I tend to stick with anonymous discussion about topics, not personal discussions focusing on each other. In fact, I wouldn't be interested at all in the latter. I think it's more important to teach your kids to be wary and cautious than it is to monitor their internet access at all times. Some critical thought will always do them good. Educating them about people who use the anonymity of the internet to do criminal acts is more important than just simple policing.
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@ruby222 (4847)
26 Jul 08
Im pleased to hear that you are treating the internet with respect,and that anyone who you choose to chat with you keep it all on a casual basis .If you are only chatting about life in general then you cant really get into much bother.Yes I agree with you,that educating young people to use the internet with respect,and alo to have deep respect for them selves is a very good idea.
@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
25 Jul 08
Hi ruby, Wow! Great that the parents noticed and prevented such meeting..With all the bad news happening around, it is very risky for a young girl or any girl to be meeting their chatmate! Anyway, I have no kids but I guess it is very helpful to search for any possible program that will detect and save history of any visited sites as well as conversation!
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
25 Jul 08
My s/o has a 14 year old daughter, and it concerns me a great deal as to who she 'talks' to on the computer. For the most part I know it is her friends from school or family, but it could be anyone. Since his computer is in the same room as my scrapbooking room, I am normally in the room when she is on the computer, it is also centrally located, in that you have to go through that room to go to our room......so, I can walk by at anytime without her realizing that I'm 'checking'. I also check her myspace to see what types of comments are being left and who is on her friends list. Eventhough she is a very smart girl, I think at times she could be too trusting in the case of chatting with someone that could be a poser. And she is getting to the age where she 'thinks' she knows so much.lol I do have the upper hand as I already raised two daughters, so you might say, been there done that! lol
@gemini_rose (16264)
25 Jul 08
This is what scares me about mine getting to the age of wanting a computer. My youngest are 7, 6 and 2, but the eldest of them has asked to be able to use a computer because there are some childrens sites that his friends go on. I have decided to invest in a laptop for them after christmas, and it is a childs laptop and comes with lots of security measures to help keep them safe. But I have already been talking to them about the sorts of things that can happen through talking to strangers on the comuter and I have also told them that the computer will be staying downstairs and that they can only go on it when either me or Dad are about. My eldest is 16, at the minute he has no computer but will be buying one next month, he knows the dangers as I have told him and told him plus he has seen some of the things that I have been sent and the nutters that I get trying to talk to me so he knows they exist!!
@gemini_rose (16264)
7 Aug 08
Thanx for BR XxX
@NettyB (335)
• United States
25 Jul 08
OMG that is so scary. I do not have small children at home anymore and my grands are not yet old enough for internet. But I can tell you that I have a niece that hooked up with someone off the internet a few years ago, it turned out ok, but she abandoned her children to do that. She no longer has custody of them. She went clear across the state to meet up with this guy, we were all terribly worried about her. She is no longer with that guy and did move back to her hometown for awhile. I just recently learned that she has taken off again, been months now, no one knows where she is.
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@ruby222 (4847)
26 Jul 08
There is a salutary lesson to be learned there.Yes its terrifying to think that one of your nearest and dearest could disappear without trace,by just meeting someone from the internet.
@jalucia (1431)
• United States
26 Jul 08
My kids are young and only interested in playing games on the pc. Our pc is located centrally and I am very aware of what they are doing. Although I agree that it is important to set up rules and regulations - for your children's safety, I have to admit that with kids - where there is a will, they find a way. Teenagers, especially, can be very sneaky. They'll find a way to do the things that they want to do. I just think, that as a parent you should be as nosey as you can be. Don't always let your kids know, but check up on them often.
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@ruby222 (4847)
26 Jul 08
Yes that is about the best that you can do!if you are regularly monitoring them ,then it should at least help the situation.You make a good point when you speak of teenagers being secretive ,they are masters of it on the whole,it is part of being a teenager!and if they dont want you to find them doing something then they will do their damndest to try to stop you!it takes but a second to sign a messaging service out!
@baileycows (3665)
• United States
25 Jul 08
We have our children right in front of us when they are on the PC, but it is also blocked by their ages.
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@ruby222 (4847)
26 Jul 08
I am sure that ensures that you are doing everything that you can possibly do at that rate Bailey,it is a worry that there are so many predators on the internet.but its bound to happen.Its a sad fact of life that what ever we ahevt hat is good,will be ruined by some that have bad intentions.
@iyah10 (4115)
• Kuwait
25 Jul 08
I think there is no safer place now especially when it is a child who would used the computer for surfing so I guess it is better to see them closely while using it because you cannot avoid those people they will meet in the net......
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@ruby222 (4847)
26 Jul 08
Thats true,apart from making sure that a messaging service isnt downloaded onto the computer,but then agin there are many chat rooms that they could gain access to,so the answer is with the Gods really.
• United States
25 Jul 08
That is really scary. I am so happy the parents found out in time! You hear these storys all the time and it's so heatbreaking, especially when they end tragically. I hope that the media coverage of these storys will show children how dangerous it is to meet someone off the internet at such a young age.
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@ruby222 (4847)
26 Jul 08
Like us all when we were younger,the children of today take risks,its called maturing/growing uo,and they are in fact no different from us when we were young,but the almarming thing is that technology has allowed them to be put at risk by exploration.If you have a messenger installed and someone adds you to their list,it may come over as bieng flattering to a young woman,they may willingly add the person to their messenger and think nothing of it.But in fact its so dangerous!!Then if the person asks questions about their life,again they readilly answer,and think that the person is indeed interested in them!!but its so hard for a youngster to comprehend that the person who is traeting them so kindly has ill intentions towards them.I dont know the answer ,if there is one,how to stop or curb this growing trend.I am sure that the position of the computer within the house is vital,so that it can be monitored at all times.But im not at all sure hoew Parental controls work,and to what degree they are effective.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
25 Jul 08
Hey ruby. I don't have any kids of my own but my best friend has 2 teenage girls 15 + 16 and they are constantly on Myspace and I worry about them so much. They have been at my house using my computer and have showed me some of the stuff they do. I freaked. Their Mom has no real control over them at this point. They are a handful! Two teenage girls! My poor friend! What do you do? You can only watch them so much. You can put locks, blocks on the computer but what do you do lock them in their rooms until they are 30? It's a scary world we live in and I care for these kids and worry because they have no fear.