Wait until your father gets home

@p1kef1sh (45681)
July 29, 2008 2:34pm CST
Were words that I never once heard uttered in our house when I was young. My mother had her trusty wooden spoon and administered instant justice whether we needed it or not. My father never punished us. Not once. But he wasn't frightened to tell us if he was disappointed in our behaviour. That was worse than being spanked. I grew up respecting my father and being terrified of my mother's temper. Much of that I now understand as she was undergoing her own issues at that time. Did you live in fear of receiving the spoon or strap. How were you punished as a child. Are we too soft on our own these days?
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@nannacroc (4049)
29 Jul 08
My dad told me that my mum had only said this once to my oldest sister. She did tell dad and he just asked if the child remembered why she was waiting for him to get home, she was only about 5 and obviously forgot what she'd done wrong long before dad got in. My dad did not want to be seen as an 'ogre', his name not mine, to his children. I never had a fear of anyone smacking me as, being the last of five and very quiet they knew all the ways of dealing with children without smacking. My dad did smack me once, more of a tap than a smack, but that was for telling lies. He hated liars and used to say you could lock things away from a thief but there was no protection from a liar. I do remember my mum, who was about 5'5'' saying to my 6' 3'' brother that he wasn't too big to go over her knee. I must have been about 7 and he was 17, as I always had a vivid imagination I tried to imagine this happening but it was beyond me.
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@nannacroc (4049)
29 Jul 08
I forgot to answer the last bit. Yes we are too soft on children now, a friend of mine who is a childcare worker was told today that she should not have shouted to a child who was running with open scissors. She didn't shout in anger just loud enough to get him to hear her. No punishments are acceptable and many children are allowed to rule the roost at home. I'm glad my children are grown up now. I went to college to do a childcare qualification when the youngest was 14 and apparently I had done everything wrong in their upbringing. I think they turned out ok though so I would do the same again. They were rarely smacked but the odd tap on the hand or smack on the bottom was necessary.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
29 Jul 08
What should the childcare worker have done. Said "Flossie dear. Please don't run in case your trip and gouge your eye out with that pair of scissors, or stab Billy and horribly mutilate him". Surely "STOP FLOSSIE. Or STAND STILL FLOSSIE" shouted has just the right amount of warning in it for her to stop. In a different world that I occasionally inhabit I was asked why I thought fewer and fewer adults were prepared to go through CRB checks for voluntary work. Frankly I am surprised that anyone bothers to submit to it anymore. If the paedophile police don't get you, the Health and Safety ones will! Sorry I've gone off the discussion. Your children and theirs seem to have grown up well adjusted. But then, despite your protestations to the contrary, they are loved!
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@guybrush (4658)
• Australia
30 Jul 08
I don't remember being punished at home - but I had a whack across the knuckles with a teacher's ruler once for eating in class! (Last time I did THAT ...) I do think we are too soft these days. Students certainly aren't frightened of being given a demerit at school, whereas the lads of my generation lived in fear of being sent to the headmaster's office for six of the best! A little fear is a good thing, and I don't remember classes being out of control the way they are now. In Australia, parents can be charged with assault for smacking their children - and children are made aware of their 'rights' from a very early age. It's a sad state of affairs.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
It's the same here Guy. Children are aware of their rights but with those come responsibilities too. Trouble is, every one is so busy running scared because Susie has been denied her "right" to listen to her iPod in Maths, that they forget to remind her that it is her responsibility to pay attention too!
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• United States
29 Jul 08
My Mom never hesitated to discipline us when we misbehaved. The problem in saying wait until your Dad gets home is that the child than associates Dad with punishment. I don't think that should ever be said. When a child does something wrong than it should be dealt with right then and there. And I do believe that which ever parent happens to be there at the time should be the one that should take care of the problem.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
29 Jul 08
I agree completely. My mother never said that and we didn't associate him with discipline at all.
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
29 Jul 08
My mom was one of those "wait until your father gets home" mothers - so we'd be dreading all day when she told Dad what we'd done and wondering what our punishment would be. Often, however, I found that if I could meet Dad at the gate before he came into the house and told him myself what I'd done that he'd go a lot easier on me than if I waited for Mom to tell him. if we were spanked, it was only with a hand and never a strap. As we got older, our punishment was a lecture from our Dad - sometimes you'd rather they'd had spanked you!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
29 Jul 08
My dad never spanked, just spoke and as you say, spanking was a easier at times.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Jul 08
pikefish hi I was never spanked with strap or spoon, just got the eye from my mom and the frown from my dad. Just one look from my mom was all it took. My knees shook, and I knew I had better shape up or else. My mom had a way of making her eyes look huge and scary, and I inherited'that from her. I would give my son the evil eye, and he quit what he was doing and shaped up. My father's frown was also one thatI did not want to encounter as my dad would often threathen to take his razor strap to me, but he never did. I dont know if we are too soft on our kids now days or if'if 'its more that a lot of kids aren't even raised by parents'but by their nannies or baby sitters and thats not a good source of discipline at all.I do think that a lot of teens here in the uS are growing up with no respect for themwselves or others. I am elderly and use a cane, and have come close to being knocked down by the youth here in our apt.complex that zoon past on skate boards.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
29 Jul 08
I think that the odd smack might have its place. But generally the mind is more effective. The problem now is that there are few manners and no body has any respect for other people. I am not sure that you can beat that into people. We need to review our attitudes I think.
@Rosekitty (19368)
• San Marcos, Texas
30 Jul 08
My Father was a Greek man who was hit alot by his father and so thats all he knew..my Sisters and i were hit alot and yelled almost everyday..we hated the time we knew he'd be coming home not knowing who would get it and we were real little angels..I became a teen and took it upon myself to be rebellious thinking if i'm going to be acccused of something i might as well be bad..we all moved out as soon as we were of age to get away..I was the 4th daughter..but my younger brother and sister were raised differently..they were spoiled and given whatever they wanted..us 4 older ones are strong and mature and doing fine..the younger 2 are never there for my Mom and still spoiled and selfish... this showed me that children need discipline..I wouldn't say a belt or switch, but some kind of punishment to help them later in life..to grow up and be strong..Mommy and daddy aren't always going to be there. So for all my 5 children...i'd give them a look and orders that my list of things had to be done before I came home from work or no tv..didn't have much else back then..lol..I didn't care if they waited till 15 min. before i came home as long as the chores were done and they usually always were.One time the vacummn almost burned the house down but thats about it..lol..funny now but back then..nope!
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
I think that the approach that you took with your own children was the right one Rosie. I was terrified of my Mum when she reached for the spoon. But my Dad's look and obvious disappointment in me was way worse than any spanking that I received.
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@dorypanda (1601)
31 Jul 08
Oh, yes, my Mum was a crocodile, they used to whip me with their scaly tails until I fell to the ground, then they'd make me dig a hole, bury me in it...........dig me up three days later, then send me down the mine to work. :( (ok, that's not actually true) Smacking doesn't work, I was smacked, it just made me have a really hard bum, my Dad did the smacking, my Mum didn't have to smack, she said it all with a 'Mum look', you know what I mean, I'm sure you've seen it yourself too. I use the same kind of look with my son, it almost always works you know.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
31 Jul 08
Although I have never actually met your mum face to face Dory; I can imagine one of her "looks". I have been told spoken top sternly by her myself!! I smacked my daughter once and was so ashamed that I never did it again. She knows when she is oiut of line and reacts accordingly!
@laglen (19759)
• United States
30 Jul 08
Before I was old enough, Dad used a boat oar. But that broke on my brothers butt. Then we got the belt or hand. Yes I do think that a lot of people are too soft on kids. I have spanked my daughter. I believe the punishment should fit the crime. I spanked her when she was younger, but very rarely. I used my hand only. I don't think you should spank to hurt but to get their attention. But.... I would not step in on other parents unless they were actually abusing their child. I think this is something that is up to parents.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Jul 08
Dad did that AFTER he laughed at being spanked by it.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
Your dad broke an oar on your brother's butt?! That must have been a heck of a bad thing that he did. I have found that not spanking my daughter has worked very well. I want her to feel loved and protected and guided. An occasional smack is probably OK especially as a cautionary thing.
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@34momma (13882)
• United States
29 Jul 08
My mother only ever hit me twice growing up. I don't know if i feared her as much as wanted her approval. she was no one to play with i will say that. my brother was the one who got my spankings then i did. i think at times we are to soft on our children. i am not saying that we need to beat them. but when saying go to your room to your child which means watch tv, play video games, and use the computer is a punishment, then we got problems!!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
29 Jul 08
My daughter didn't get a TV etc in her room until she was well into her teens Momma. If she got sent there she knew that she was in BIG trouble. She had to leave her door open too. She could read or sleep. That was it. Fortunately she didn't get sent too often. I smacked her one and I felt so bad about it afterwards that I never did it again.
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@34momma (13882)
• United States
30 Jul 08
that is what i use to do with my boys. if they got into big trouble and were sent to their room. everything came out but the bed. they could not sleep though. i would make the write or read.
@Margajoe (4746)
• Germany
30 Jul 08
Hi! I got the same treatment. The wooden spoon! After a while it did not really hurt anymore.LOL! What really hurt is why I was being punished, most of the times I don't even know why. And when I tell my parents know, they don't remember ever hitting me, especially not with a wooden spoon! But, I remember clearly. Especially that one time my Dad was hitting me. The spoon broke!!!Hahahaha! I started laughing, and that made him even more angry. Then he hit me with his bare hand. HEY!!!! THAT HURT!!!! I don't believe that kind of punishment is good. Because I did not realize, most of the time, what I had done wrong. It is better to talk to your children. If they still don't want to understand, send them to there room to think about it. When they are ready to talk, let them! Yes, some of us are or have been to soft. This does not help the child either, you need to stay in the middle and remember every child is different. Take care, Margajoe.
@Margajoe (4746)
• Germany
30 Jul 08
Right on! I think you are a good parent! Take care, Margajoe.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
Thank you. So does my daughter curiously enough. LOL!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
I agree with you. We should talk to our children not lash out at them. It is important that they feel loved and protected not attacked and shunned.
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
30 Jul 08
I think many parents these days are too soft on their kids, especially as they grow into teenagers. My parents were tough. I think I was 16 and still going to bed at 9:30 PM. If I disobeyed my dad would use his thick 70's leather belt. That sucker hurt. I don't use anything like that on my own kids but they do get a spank if they deserve one.
• United States
30 Jul 08
Your a softie!! :) I go with the warning taps myself and usually that is as far as I have to take it.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
It's taken you this long to discover that I'm a softie Skinny? LOL.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
I'm 50 and have to go to bed at 9.30!! But that's age. LOL. I don't like beating children with belts or anything else for that matter. I have smacked our daughter but I felt so bad about it afterwards that I vowed never to do it again. I do differentiate between a warning tap and a full blown spanking though.
@littleowl (7157)
29 Jul 08
Oh do I remember the words 'wait til your father gets home' and that always put a fright up me cos he would always tell me off if I had done something wrong but never did he raise his hand to me..his words were enough then my parents divorced it was a different situation..my sisters and I always received the strap/belt if we did something wrong or back-chatted either my mum or step-father it also went for being late home after school or our curfew time to be in..all of us were scared of him but he did one good thing and that was to teach us respect for our elders Yes nowadays chiildren are treated like puppies they have no discipline in their lives no respect either for themselves let alone others,all they know is to hurl abuse at people aggravate them and violence-children nowadays need the disciline in their lives that we once had-bright blessings littleowl
@littleowl (7157)
30 Jul 08
Bring back National Service!!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
I think that is not the answer. At least in respect of putting them all in the armed forces. The reason why our armed forces are as good as they are is because they are all volunteers. The last thing they need is an influx of largely disaffected young people. Once they start returning in body bags from Iraq or Afghanistan there would be a real public revolt. People are nostalgic for National Service, but it was unpopular and didn't actually work. Britain doesn't have a history of conscription apart from the wars and the 1950s. All that will happen is that we will make our thugs, fit thugs. However, if it was like the German model where they have to spend time doing community projects instead of the military I might feel differently. The Princes Trust is a good example of what I mean.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
I believe that most young people are good. But there is a sizeable minority that have no respect for anything or anybody. I don't think that beating them is the answer, but they do need something. Thanks Littleowl.
@walijo2008 (4644)
• United States
1 Aug 08
I grew up with my grandparents, and you didn't want to make grandma mad at you, she could just give you that look and you knew you better straighten up or she's gonna get you, believe me she would get you with whatever was closest to her..lol. My grandpa didn't do a whole lot of disciplining, but if he had to he would. It was mostly left up to her, and she didn't have to get us too often, I learned my lesson after a few times. My sister on the other hand was always getting in trouble then she would try to get me in trouble..lol. I think we're too soft on our kids these days, I know alot of people would disagree. It just depends on how you were raised, if you were spanked when you were young, then you wouldn't think theres anything wrong with it. If you weren't, those are the ones who are against it mostly. I got spanked when I was little, and I don't think I turned out bad, I've never smoked or drank in my whole life, always done what I was supposed to do.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
1 Aug 08
I was spanked and turned out OK I think. But I couldn't spank our daughter other than once. I found other ways were just, if not more effective.
• United States
29 Jul 08
same with me, my dad never touched us. my mom would give me spankings. she used her hand and it was powerful.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
29 Jul 08
Hurt too didn't it?!
• United States
29 Jul 08
yes, but i survived and i wasn't scarred from it, and i learned right from wrong.
@stella1989 (2274)
• India
30 Jul 08
My parents were hard on us ( me and my brother) since our childhood. We always lived in constant fear.. Well I don't really regret it all as sometimes I admit that in some things I did need a little slap to get in my senses and move to the what is right. But that wasn't needed every time.. Well that is something past.. My parents specially papa(father) is still like that. He has a dominating nature and well when people get old its not easy in fact its really hard to change there personality and their thinking!! So rather I have decided to better live with it till I get a nice job and move out of this home to get some freedom in life. I won't say that my story is a sad one but yeah it wasn't a good one either..
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
I am sorry that your life hasn't been as good as you would have liked. I hope that you get that job and move on soon.
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
30 Jul 08
Well my mother was not the disciplinarian in our home back then. it was always with my father that I usually get the spanking as that was his way of disciplining us back then. I don't agree with his method but I grew up to be relatively behave boy because of that. When I have my son I decided not to do it at him. My son is able to express himself but we never allow him to overpower us. He does not receive any physical punishment because I do not believe in it.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
We were the same with our daughter. She's now 19 so a little large for spankings anyway!
@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
30 Jul 08
i know i am too soft on my daughters these days and with all the talk about the corporal punishment harming a child and anyone and everyone ready to call the authorities on anyone that does pretty much anything to a child...its no wonder!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
That's true. But I bet it still goes on.
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
30 Jul 08
I didn't receive a LOT of physical punishment as a child. I think I was spanked my father once when I was little. Apparently it was enough to make me scared of him for the rest of my life. I don't know if I would have been scared of him anyway or not. I remember one specific time when my mother slapped my face. I was a teenager and I probably deserved it. If there were other times, I don't remember them, so if anything happened it probably wasn't majorly traumatic. I do remember my mother chasing my brother around a lot with either a belt or, believe it or not, a knife (probably just once). My brother used to taunt her. He was a handfull, I guess. To answer your question "Are we too soft on our own these days". I truly don't know. In many ways I have actually been harder on my kids than my parents were on me. For some reason, other than those couple of incidents that I mentioned, I really wasn't a trouble maker and didn't give my parents a lot of problems. I have 3 siblings and alltoghether I'm sure we gave them their share of headaches. I thought I would "learn from my parents mistakes" and be a better parent. I can't say that it turned out that way. My kids present me with new challenges every day.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
I think that it is the job of children to challenge us. But they have to learn that there are boundaries which it is unwise to cross. If these are properly presented then there will be few problems. Unfortunately some children go completely off the rails and I really don't know how to get them back again.
@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
30 Jul 08
My father was never to interested in being a parent. My mother administered discipline. Though I never got hit with anything. I got slapped once when I was 17. And I deserved it. The only thing I feared was something happening to my mom.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
My Mum was a real disciplinarian. She is now quite elderly and not at all like I remember to have been when I was a child.
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
30 Jul 08
I don't think my mother ever spanked me or any of my siblings. She certainly didn't threaten us with, "wait until your father gets home" either. Mostly, she would tell us to go to our rooms to think about what we had done. When we were older, she would take away priviledges. Dad didn't spank us either...'cause my mother wouldn't let him. His hands and arms were so strong - from his job as a sheet metal mechanic - that my mother was afraid he would hurt us.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
30 Jul 08
I found with our daughter that if we discussed her misdemeanour with her, and gave her time to decide what she should do, the she invariably made the right choice. She hates to disappoint us. But I smacked her once and was so ashamed of myself that I never did it again.