Electric Cars are HERE NOW!
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
United States
August 1, 2008 9:25am CST
Yes, it is true.
Not wanting to let the USA be the technological leader in everything, the Chinese have already marketed an electric car. See one and learn all about it here.
http://www.zapworld.com/electric-vehicles/electric-cars/xebra-sedan
I say this car does not have the performance required to get me to buy one, but kudos to the Chinese for seeing the need and filling it in the best of entreprenurial tradition.
What do you say?
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
1 Aug 08
It is cheap that is where it stops being a good idea. Being able to only go up 25 mile on a charge, and top speed is 40 mph will not work for me. Hay Redyellowblackdog I was wondering if this car would fit your need, which color would you choose. I can see you in the zebra car, but that is just me.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
1 Aug 08
I would enjoy the pickup truck, any color. I have actually looked into building such a car. Unless you are planning on building thousands, the parts are almost cost prohibitive. Though, I do think I could build and sell one for less than $12,000.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
2 Aug 08
India has been working on one for some time and I have actually driven their version of electric car in Bangalore. A friend of mine in Australia's family is behind it all! This version of car appears to be most popular in places such as Malta and smaller island type countries; but their improved models they are working on will hopefully extend their reach. A new model I saw there has a range of 200 kilometres or so and a top speed of around 120 KM per hour as well!
It is not the most attractive of cars but I was surprised at how responsive and roomy the car actually was! Here is a link to their products:
http://www.revaindia.com/
I say kudos as well to anybody that is taking this approach and able to make them cost effective and mainstream!
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
2 Aug 08
Good looking little car. I see there are no US dealers listed yet. Are they planning to ever get into the USA?
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
2 Aug 08
Well, received? I guess so. They are underselling the inferior looking Chinese model by 2K dollars. They will sell them as fast as they can build them, if they can get into the US market.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
2 Aug 08
I am sure that US entry is within their sights but it is just not that straightforward I guess. Especially in terms of specific criteria that have to be met with certain standards etc. The UK market has been entered into and so has Belgium for example so I am sure they are getting there. The current model is a sub 10K car too so I believe it would be well received.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
1 Aug 08
Hello Red,
Hmmm, interesting. And, not very attractive.
There may be some places around the globe where a vehicle is simply a mode of transportation, though the USA is not one of them. Neither are alot of other places: Britain, Italy, Australia, Germany etc...
I tend to doubt that people will abandon their personal connection with their vehicle unless and until we get our Jetson's flying-mobiles. Until then, I doubt that these little vehicles will gain much traction outside of the Far East, and Middle East.
I'll take it one step farther, and suggest that adopting this kind of alternative technology will end up being counter-productive. Why? Because it simply shifts the energy need from gasoline to electricity. Right now, the biggest energy sector drain isn't in fueling vehicles, its in generating electricity for residential and commercial use. Plugging 200,000,000 American cars (in addition to the global load) into the power grid will not be looked upon favorably!
So, I see these little buggies as a stop-gap to ease the growing burden on the Chinese and Indian markets, primarily.
For the USA, I'm going to go on the record and predict that until we do get out Jetson's-mobiles, that the solution that ends up getting adopted here will be hybrid-diesels. Yeah, I've been a long-time proponent of diesel, but that's not why I'm making this prediction. Quite recently an American company has designed and built a particle filter that will cut diesel emmissions down to next to zero. This technological advancement will enable Americans to still drive vehicles with character, while getting outstanding fuel mileage, and emitting almost no emmissions.
This will piggy-back on to the European diesel effort, yet make the diesel technology a better comprehensive option than any other personal transportation technology out there.
'Course, I'm chompin' at the bit for my Jetsons car ... but I guess I'll have to muster up some patience and keep waiting, huh???
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
1 Aug 08
I'm a big propoent of diesel, too. I have a 3 cylinder diesel tractor I use here on my farm. When I don't work it too hard, it uses about 1/2 gallon per hour, which is not bad.
I agree these small Chinese cars aren't the answer. I see them as a step toward the answer.
As to the Jetson mobile, the thing has been invented. I'll see if I can find the reference. Why haven't you seen one? The problem with a 'flying car' anyone can operate with as little training as a car is traffic control. Even with clearly marked roads people in cars hit each other. Imagine if people were moving at 300 mph any direction they wanted and thousands were in the air over a city at a time? Currently a method to create computer controlled virtual sky highways is being worked on. You would take the sky car out of your garage, punch in where you wanted to go and the computer would take you there via predesinated pathways in the sky.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
1 Aug 08
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1632523.aspx?p=0
There you go, the skycar info.
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@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
2 Aug 08
What ARE you talking about????
There are ALREADY 100% electric cars on the road today in the US. Many major cities have electric recharging stations at large businesses and at malls so they can recharge while you work or shop.
Plus, electric cars and electric/gas(diesel) hybrids have been around dince the 1800's!
Here is a link that will give you a brief history of electric cars - http://www.didik.com/ev_hist.htm
There are other sites about specific makes and models of electric cars but this is the most comprehensive site I know about.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
2 Aug 08
I did say, "Electric cars are here now!". This could be construed I'm assuming the reader believes there are no electric cars, but that is not what I was doing. Rather I was using a cheap trick to attract attention. This is much in the same way as a politician plays with words.
Of course, electric cars have been around a long time. The title of the post is just for effect. However, it is true that electric cars are not very numerous and they could be as cars such as this one evolve and become better.
Thanks, for the links. There is more history to electric cars than I realized.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
2 Aug 08
Actually there are millions of "electric cars" running around today; we just don't THINK of them as "electric cars".
Remember something called a "golf cart" - 4 wheels and many are powered by electric batteries. With the higher gas prices, many MORE people have been making them "street legal" and using them for quick trips in small towns and cities. Obviously, they don't have the speed and distance to handle the highways; but, many of them will easily go 35 mph and they are perfect for a trip to the store or to visit a friend.
So, you just add a little more to the outside and make sure they have the required lights, mirrors and horn so they can driven on the road; and, guess what, you have an electric car!
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
1 Aug 08
That an American could build a better electric car under his shade tree or in his home garage is something I don't doubt. The American's problem would be liability issues if he tries to sell it. The first time one of them is in an accident, the American would be sued for everything he owns. This is one huge problem.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
1 Aug 08
I believe the Chinese regularily ignore lawsuits brought by US citizens if it suits their purposes. Did anyone sue over the poisoned dog food? I think suits were filed but nothing could come of it. In a serious case (like the dog food) the US Government might get involved or US buyers might boycott the product, but a nuisance suit is just not going to bother or bankrupt the Chinese.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
2 Aug 08
The chinese are becoming quite innovative. I'm sure they'll come up with a better one soon.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
1 Aug 08
I think electric cars are a great idea. They can be used in the city to do errands but if they have to be charged up too often it is a problem and would become bothersome. The Post Office in Canada uses electric vans. I think North Americans have to get away from the dependency of foreign oil and should try to cut down on gasoline, use alternative fuels and hybrid cars even if they are more expensive. Do you know anything about cars thaat are supposed to run on water?
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
1 Aug 08
There is a place where one can order a kit for $ 49.00 to convert your car to run on water.www.RunCarOnWaterKit but I don't know either whether or not it is a scam.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
1 Aug 08
I do think there will be better more practical electric cars very soon. As to the 'water fuel' cars, my general impression is that it is a scam, but I have not really looked into it. It does remind me of WWII when Hitler ordered some scientists to invent an engine that ran on either water or air because the Allies were cutting Germany off from oil. Those scientists failed and given they really had serious motivation, I think they would have invented one if it was possible.
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@pioneer2009angel (135)
• United States
1 Aug 08
Interesting car, I guess the chinese are smarter than we are, cause we USA people love to get in our oil guzzling cars and speed away to our destination.
It looks weird and not bad for a price really. Not sure if I can use this car because I drive more than 200 miles a day not just to work and home but to work,home,store,movie place,and sometimes to the beach. So it really small on our milege for good battery, probably mean you would need like 12 batteries to just take road trip.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
1 Aug 08
Yes, this car is too little power, speed, and range for me, but it is a start and I'm sure they will get better with time.
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@archmagexg (26)
• Australia
2 Aug 08
I reckon we'll be trying to come up with environmental friendly alternatives for many years to come. In the mean time we can always just walk more, use more bicycles. It's hard in Australia because of the poor public transport and so you gotta use the car to go everywhere.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
2 Aug 08
I predict better public transport is on the way.