Why Do They Continue To Do This Too Themselves?
By KrauseHome
@KrauseHome (36447)
United States
August 2, 2008 3:14am CST
Many in here know just the type I am talking about. These are the type of people you will see everyday who have a job, working usually 40 hours a week, and sometimes more, and also scamming the system never stopping to consider how it is hurting others as well. It drives me nuts when I see people who are like this. I know that when things happen, and then they are really needing help, a lot of the time, they have abused the system so much no one really wants to help them. And when they do get help they have to announce it to the world to make you wonder how?
I work with a couple of people who are Good at just this very thing. They either are telling Welfare they have kids, and need Financial help, Housing, etc. or those who worse yet have Full time jobs, and claim EXEMPT on their taxes, and then wonder how they got caught, and then try to find someone to help back them up to where they Win, and Uncle Sam is left behind as well still. This agrevates me personally to no end, and even if you have their name, without a SS number, and proof, most of the time even trying to turn someone in, is like talking to a Brick wall.
They end up almost getting their power turned off, to where they end up having to borrow $$ from others, or pay the Bill to where someone will feel sorry for them, and help them financially somewhere else, etc. and I stop and wonder how. Why can they not see what they are doing to themselves? Especially when they are older and should know better. Just makes me wonder. And then Bush has been no better offering help a lot of times to people without checking, and then turning down others who try to tell the Truth and could use the help as well.
When will it ever end, or will it? Personally, I feel it is a matter of choice, and sooner or later God will judge them for their actions and one day they may wake up and wish they could have done things different as well. But all we can do is wait, and hope someone things will change.
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10 responses
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
2 Aug 08
I know the kind of people you are talking about and it is disgusting some of the things that they do. I know a woman who works, her husband works also and every Thanksgiving her husband gets a free turkey from his job, she will be the first on line at the neighborhood's free food pantry to wait and get a free turkey for those people who can't afford to buy one. Her theory is that she is entitled to get anything and everything for free even if she doesn't need it. She would freeze the free turkey to have for another time. Many people will report her but she always gets away it. She just doesn't realize or care that taking that free turkey when she doesn't deserve it is only causing a family in need to be without dinner because of her greed.
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@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
25 Aug 08
If she was really getting this Turkey for someone else, and giving it to them, then there would be nothing wrong with it. But when they are deliberately lying to get it, that is wrong too. Eventually these type of people will end up getting caught, or something will happen, and then it could be too late. Just wish sometimes they could see the error of their ways before then.
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
20 Aug 08
I do agree with you. People who actually need help, like me because I'm disabled, can't get any help or we need to jump through ridiculous hoops to get it. But the scam artists of the world can seem to get by easily with whatever they need. I always thought that was a funny term - scam artist. It gives them credit they don't deserve, equating them with writers, dancers, and painters. The most recent example of this that I've found is when two friends of mine needed someone to co-sign for their apartment and no organization would help them or fund the money. My assistant also just told me about a guy who lives in my apartment complex, which is low income and you're supposed to be poor to live here, who has a new, cherry red, convertible mustang. This is an example of why we don't have enough money to pay for the people who really need it.
@1grnthmb (2055)
• United States
4 Aug 08
I am one of the honest ones who have lost state aid. I am disabled and can not work. My wife works and makes about 1300-1800 a month. It varies every month so we have no idea what she gets till we get it. We had a really good worker who understood this but in January we got a new worker. We sent in our report and it was fifty dollars to much income that month to qualify so we were cut off. Then the next month her check was two hundred fifty dollars lower. I called the worker and told her but she refuses to reinstate our aid. What goes on her. An honest person who needs it gets cut off while the dishonest person who drives a brand new Cadillac that she has registered in someone else's name gets every thing she wants. Out system sucks.
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@saivenkaat802003 (4823)
• India
3 Aug 08
KrauseHome.. I can feel the pulse of yours.. if you could call this as a cheat, by the people who are rich, but not very affluent. And i invite your attention to this topic of mine.. and want you to make a comparison, between the behavior of the personalities in discussion.
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1634025.aspx
Take care.
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@richiem (3644)
• Philippines
12 Aug 08
So these things happen to your government too!
I thought it is only our government system which is prone to graft.
I guess every country experience this. This is why the best
laws meant nothing when implemented. Only few benefit from it.
I don't think I can do something about them. I would just let
them be.
Have a nice day!
@Jenaisle (14078)
• Philippines
3 Aug 08
I think that is some sort of dishonesty. There will always be people who would do anything to squilch a little. They are not aware that what they give, so they'll receive. The world has a principle of balance, where things will always go back to their point of origin. "What you sow, so shall you reap."
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
2 Aug 08
There are alot of ppl abusing the system and they get away with it. I've known ppl that live in low income apartments, have hud paying their rent, get food stamps, wic and medcaid and yet have $3-4,000 computer equipment sitting in their bedrooms.
I remember when Katrina struck Louisianna and President Bush stepped in and got FEMA to start handing out emergency money cards so ppl could buy clothing, diapers, pay for phone calls to let their families know they were ok or to get to a family member's home and ppl went to the offices and lied through their teeth to get the cards. They claimed to own houses that they didn't own and split up the family so that they could get 2-3 cards instead of one. Of course, in the middle of all that it's almost impossible to check up on each person and make sure of who's who. It was a mess and some ppl (not all but some) took advantage of it.
There's going to be ppl like that no matter what. They don't care about doing what's right or being a good decent person, all they care about is getting their share whether they earn it or not.
**AT PEACE WITHIN**
~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
3 Aug 08
People who abuse the system make it harder for those who need the system to get help. When I was in high school, I saw this for the first time. The couple across the street from us each worked 2 jobs getting paid cash under the table. She was on welfare, claiming her husband had left her with two kids and no income. They had color TVs before anyone else and took vacations to Florida every year. (We lived in Pennsylvania.) Someone in our neighborhood tried to turn them in, but was told that they had to make appointments to come and do a check on the household.
A few years ago, I had to spend a month in a women's abuse shelter. One woman was there with her 3 kids. Turned out that every time she wanted to move, she went to the shelter for a month. They helped her get furniture, linens, whatever she needed for her apartment and moved her in - as well as paid her first and last month rent and security deposit. I was amazed.
When I worked at a church in TX that helped people pay their electric bills in the hot summer months, I was helping out with this. One day a grandma came in asking for assistance and I made arrangements to help her. About an hour later, her daughter came in and asked for assistance too. They had an unusual name, so I knew they had to be related. But they weren't living together. Next a 19 year old boy with the same last name came in. I told him that he, his mother and grandmother needed to band together to help each other, rather than having the local churches paying their bills for them.
Sadly, though, there are plenty of people who need help. Many are too proud to ask, or don't know where or how to get it.
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@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
3 Aug 08
That's one tough questions to answer. You see people like this
have no guilt or conscience. They will hurt and scam people as
long that they are alive.
These type of people is sick in mind. They are having a fun time
scamming the system and the people around them. They have no remorse.
The important thing for them is no other than their selves.
They should seek help for their sick mind. Acknowledge within their
selves that they had a problem. That's the only way to cure them.
@Willie9057 (6)
• United States
3 Aug 08
KrauseHome(7452)your right, its abuse of a system meant to help people in need, that really helps people with greed. In most cases the people who are abusing the system didn't figure out how by themselves, get my drift. The welfare system has
good intentions but is currupt within, and it does't matter what state you live, it's same system, different state/city the don't police themselves. But they sure do act like it's there money.