I live in the Us - Should I have to learn Spanish to adapt to changes?

United States
August 3, 2008 8:43pm CST
I am not racist or prejudice in any way, shape, or form. I value having people from other countries in the United States because it allows me an opportunity to learn more about them and their culture. I have lived in the United States for my entire life, and of course, I speak English. I never learned Spanish because it was never necessary for me to do so. However, with as many changes as we are incurring with adding Spanish to everything and possibly opening the Mexican border and allowing both countries to pretty much become one, I would like to know how you feel about me having to learn Spanish in order to adapt. A quick scenario that happend to me while on a Customer Service temporary assignment. A woman called me and asked "Espanol?" and I replied "no Espanol". She then began to scream at me the following "you don't speak Spanish? What's wrong with you? How can you be so uneducated in the United States to not speak Spanish?" All I could do was reply "I never had a need to learn Spanish. I was born in America and raised speaking English." She refused to speak with me any longer and demanded a call back from a Spanish-speaking represenative. Now, I'm still not quite sure what the issue was, because she was speaking very clear English. It kind of made me want to say "well you are speaking clear English while yelling at me, so why can't you just speak English, which is the primary language in the United States?" So it was an issue of that sort that got me thinking if I should have to learn Spanish or not, or if she was wrong by telling me I was uneducated and that I need to speak Spanish. It is just as much rude for her to say that to me about my culture as it would have been for me to reply with "you are speaking clear English, the primary language in the US", however, I somehow feel that would be border-line descrimination at that point. Please tell me your thoughts.
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@penny64 (1106)
• Australia
4 Aug 08
Wow! What a rude woman! I think that everybody should be able to speak the official language of the country in which they are living and working. That way there is a country wide means of communication. While not essential, I do think it beneficial for people to learn a second language. To me a language isn't just words - it's a means of understanding a culture and a people. I think learning a language other than your own teaches tolerance and acceptance. Unfortunately this theory of mine seems to have been somewhat disproved by the woman you encountered!
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• United States
5 Aug 08
Yes, we aren't even saying you can ONLY speak our language, we are saying we are not going to learn Spanish JUST so we can speak to your people. You can learn English if you are going to live here.
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@penny64 (1106)
• Australia
5 Aug 08
Exactly, in the same way as if I went to live in Spain, I would learn Spanish.
• United States
4 Aug 08
I know many people will disagree with what I'm about to say but on the other hand I know many people feel the same way! I live in the United States of America, there is no national language but the predominant language that is spoken here and has been spoken here since the 13 colonies were formed has been English. If you want to live here you NEED to learn English. You can't just assume that everyone is going to adapt to YOUR needs because you are too lazy to learn English. I can NOT stand when I call my cable company, or my phone company and I need to press 1 for English. I should not even have to be faced with pressing a button just to speak to an English operator. I agree with what you said, I think it's great that we have people from so many different cultures and countries living here and they bring all their differences here and make the United States what it is but honestly. Do you see Americans moving to France or China or Italy and expecting everyone around them to adapt to THEM and learn English to speak to them? Nope you don't see that at all. So I don't see who sooooo many Spanish speaking people think that WE need to adapt to THEM. I'm not trying to be mean and disrespectful or racist, I am just offering up my opinion. :o) You can take it or leave it, it doesn't effect me in any way if you disagree with me.
@bfarrier1 (2082)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Irishfrndly65 WELL SAID!!!!!!!
• United States
4 Aug 08
Irish - Yes it is similar to us placing judgment on celebrities such as Britney Spears or Lindsey Lohan simply based on what we saw on the TV and in the newspaper headlines. We do not know them personally and do not know personally what it is like to live a lifestyle of fame. The same goes for America. If you have not lived here or even visited, you shouldn't make such hatred remarks about our country. Most of what you read or see on TV isn't even correct. It's correct in SOME ways, but mostly just to get ratings. I can speak first hand from Media making everything propaghanda. I was told I was doing a story on Charity, and happened to do some charity events at my friends underground parties because they were very willing to donate. What happened is they cut out all my information on charity and made it seem like I'm this huge party girl who only does charity events at underage, underground raves. I was so angry because it was so misconstrewed, but that is what the media will do to you for ratings.
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@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
4 Aug 08
No you should not have to learn any other language. It is a benefit to know a second language but is should not be a mandatory thing. If we are to relocate to another country we are expected to learn their language and customs, the way they are suppose to do the same when they relocate to the USA.
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@sudalunts (5523)
• United States
4 Aug 08
Even in the job market there is language discrimation. I am currently looking for employment, there have been many opportunities that I was interested in, but what stopped me was Spanish speaking only need to apply. So that is discriminating right here in the US based on language.
• United States
5 Aug 08
That happens to me pretty often. I'm currently on a job search and I see that a lot with the promotional work I do to fill in for my full time job.
@pshiv29 (91)
• United States
4 Aug 08
check on You tube, in the search, put: press 1 for english (song, husband/wife team, singing.).. that's just about says what I feel. this is the USA! I was born here, I was raised here... and I'll die here. I'll be d** if somebody gonna tell me to learn another language just so I can understand them in MY country. our ancestors had to learn English when they got here... the people can now, when they get here. .... ok, off my soap-box now.
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• United States
5 Aug 08
That song made a good point. It isn't about discriminating others from speaking their language, it's just that English is the language and I should not have to know another language in order to speak to someone who came here from another country. I think they made a good point with the men in service part.
• United States
4 Aug 08
Well im sorry but in my opinion is that this is the US and believe that people who come here should learn english.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 Aug 08
I fully agree with this. I don't understand why so many people waffle on this and think it's okay for force Americans to learn something else to cater to people who are immigrants here. That is so totally backwards.
• United States
4 Aug 08
I think its a bunch of BS, this is america, if we go to another country we have to learn there languages. I think if someone comes her from another country they should have to learn english, we shouldn't have to learn theres to help them. I think its absolutly crazy how many companies only hire english and spanish speaking people, whats wrong with this county. If you can't speak it why should you be able to live it.
@Ithink (9980)
• United States
5 Aug 08
I have read some of the comments and it amazes me that someone that has never been here can talk so harsh about America. Im sorry I dont think that you should have to learn another language and no other American should have to either. They are coming here so I really feel they should learn English and adapt to where they are living. I hate having to push 1 for English! I hate more when I call and get someone that doesnt really talk English and Im trying to either pay a bill or something. I have gotten to the point that I ask for someone that talks ENGLISH!
• United States
5 Aug 08
I think the best part was when Spanish came first on the trans cart at Disney world.
@bfarrier1 (2082)
• United States
4 Aug 08
I have lived in the United States all my life as well and I DONT think we should have to learn another language,I think anyone who comes here should be required to learn and speak English. I am not racist or prejudice either,I think that lady was very rude to you and seems like she is the prejudice one I believe I would have had to tell her what I thought about her yelling in English. I believe that the american people will one day be the miniorites in our own country.You have a great night.
• United States
4 Aug 08
FYI yourself JoMarch, I am an American, I was born in this country and for the record, I never killed any natives nor have I ever owned slaves.
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@bfarrier1 (2082)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Sndcain36 you are so right,I am also of the Native American I have several that were born and raised in Indian villages my great granddad was full blooded so I guess that means I need to go to a reservation to liveyou have a great night.
• United States
4 Aug 08
We are the minorities in some ways as the other person stated, but we are all Americans in some way. Anyone who comes to America is "Italian-American" or "Mexican-American", don't know why, but that is how it is. As far as actually being born here, yes we are a minority but that is what America is about: all cultures combined. But since it is currently the native language to speak English, everyone who enters should learn it. If it changes to be Spanish as the primary language, then we will all have to learn that instead.
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@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
4 Aug 08
I think the same thing applies for people from all the nationalities. Well, you haven't been to my country maybe but many english speaking people complain if someone who interacts with them doesn't speak that language. However, I am living in Turkey and the primary (and the only) language of Turkey is Turkish. But in the other hand they are right because if you are someone who has to interact with other people then you should speak English. Well, they won't complain much about french,itallian or others because the most commonly used foreign language is english. I don't know what sector you are working in but some sectors especially service sectors (I mean restourants,hotels etc.) really need to have some workers who speak the secondary language. It is why there are thousands of companies here are looking for workers who speak english,so I wouldn't find it very strange if some companies out had the condition to speak spanish and some customers to expect spanish speaking workers. The thing applies for spain too. There are many people who can speak english there but most of them won't answer you if you ask them something in english. it is because of their national emotions and something usual...
• United States
5 Aug 08
Your response kind of made me think...have you ever heard a French person complain that we aren't speaking their language? No, because they know French isn't used here very often. It's just Spanish people that complain, because they are all over here now. I'm not hating against them or anything, but really, that is the only group that seems to complain about us not knowing their language.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 Aug 08
I may be in the minority when I say this but here is my take. America is a melting pot of cultures and people, but the primary language here is English. I never learned spanish because it wasn't necessary for me to do so, and I still do not think it is NECESSARY for me to do so. Being bilingual is something good, it gives you an advantage, but it is not a requirement. I do not want the borders between here and Mexico to be eliminated, there have been enough problems with people jumping the border for DECADES, what would be the point of making that legal? We already experience problems from being overloaded with immigrants as it is, coming here for 'a better life'. After awhile, there is not going to be any better life for anybody because there are too many people and not enough resources to provide for the influx. Uneducated?! There is no law that says AMERICANS have to learn another language. If we are living in *our* country where our official language should be english, what is the point? If I moved to another country, I would learn THEIR primary language. People need to consider that when they move HERE. I'm not sorry for my opinion about this, I am not going to cater to people who want to come here and make this mexico the second. That is not how it is and that is not how it should be. The nerve of that lady, screaming at you in ENGLISH that she wanted someone to speak with in spanish! People should have a choice whether they want to stick within their own culture or not - BUT - if you move to another country with another culture, then you damn right ought to learn about it and fit in. If you don't want to do that, you have no business moving to another country. If you go somewhere else and demand people cater to YOU, that is disrespectful and wrong and offensive to the citizens of that country. I wish that there was a requirement that in order to move here, you had to learn english. I think it may be that way in Australia or even Canada. I would not dream of moving to Mexico if I did not speak decent spanish! How unfair it would be for me to expect THEM to speak english if I were in THEIR country!
• United States
5 Aug 08
Yes, and what happens is people from other countries seem to think we are discriminating against because America hates everyone, or something. That we just can't accept that we are a nation that allows immigrants to come here freely (and really free for the most part). No, that is not it. We know that we "one nation" and that others come to the US for opportunities and what not, and that we are all different cultures together, but we have ALWAYS spoken English so just learn the damn language, would ya?
@ShellyB (5241)
• United States
4 Aug 08
My thoughts are that you should learn spanish if that is what you wish. I am not sure what the woman's problem was bur but a lot of companies have spanish help hot lines, and even if they did not that does not justify being rude to anyone on the phone.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 Aug 08
You would think too that companies ARE aware of a need for translation. Every time I call any customer service line, it says something along the lines of 'for english, press 1. For spanish, press dos (this part is of course spoken IN spanish)'. This enables people to choose how their phone call is routed and if you press 2, then your call apparently goes into the queue which is answered by someone bilingual or spanish speaking. If you choose the wrong option initially, you have no right to scream at the representative who answers your call lol. Also, since there are SO MANY spanish speaking people and/or bilingual people here, there should be no shortage of available job seekers for companies needing either one. I likely will never need an interpreter unless English as a language disappears, and it won't.
@ShellyB (5241)
• United States
4 Aug 08
I am sorry you had a bad moment, but I am with you. The fact that the company has help in spanish, should be a plus and something that people should appreciate, and well when help is not ready at the moment, then people should learn to wait and not be rude. If not then start learning english. Or at least start learning how to be more polite :D
• United States
4 Aug 08
Yes, and she got angry that the one person we have that does speak Spanish in that department was not in for the day. She thinks more people need to be in our department that speak Spanish. In the company, there are a lot of people who speak Spanish. However, in our department we didn't have that. It's just how it is because it was not a requirement and that is something she should have taken up with the higher-ups, not a representative.
@Tasche (138)
• Ethiopia
4 Aug 08
For me as an european citizen it is hard to understand why the american people think it is special to learn another language. We have to learn english and later in school we have to learn a third language, for me it was french. Some choose latin or danish, spanish, now a days chinese or russian. Believe me the fact that english talking people are only able to talk english is special not the other way round. You are the only that always come a long with your mother-tongue. Don`t see it as a burden, see it as a chance. :)
• United States
4 Aug 08
I don't see it as a burden, I'm simply stating that she was incredibly rude to me the way she spoke to me that I do not know Spanish. I was never taught Spanish, and unliked European citizens, was not required to learn Spanish. It isn't that I think we are too special to not speak it, it was simply that I wasn't required to and I never did.
@Tasche (138)
• Ethiopia
4 Aug 08
If you want to live in a country, you have to learn its language. That is my opinion. So yes of course.
@rsomers6 (25)
• United States
4 Aug 08
the us has no official language but not y learn spanish?
• United States
5 Aug 08
The official language is, and always has been English.
• United States
5 Aug 08
wow ur dumb u didnt even know theres no official us language haha
• United States
4 Aug 08
Ok...so the question is is it necessary to learn spanish to adapt in the united states? Yes. Absolutely. Being bilingual is definitely going to be to your advantage. I myself have been learning spanish for the past 5 years and knowing the little that I know puts me that much more ahead of people that speak only one language. The United States is a world power and the underdeveloped countries that are in less fortunate circumstances come to our country in hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families("living the american dream"). Besides which when you are in a country where immigration is so rampant, it would benefit you or anyone for that matter to learn their language.
• United States
5 Aug 08
You state that you know a little Spanish after taking it for 5 years. But you see, for me, I don't want to spend all this time and money to learn another language only for the purpose of speaking to those who do not want to speak our language. Yes, I could do it for personal or career gain, but I'm not going to say "hey look, I know Spanish, so you don't need to learn English" because you STILL need to learn English if you are going to live in America.
• United States
4 Aug 08
I don't think it should be mandatory to learn it. If we go to other countries we are expected to learn enough to get by and get what we need, whether that is just enough or completely fluent. These people are coming here not to make this their home but to take what they can take from our country and then leave. My husband who lost his job to illegals was told over and over again how they (the illegals) hate this country and how they don't respect anyone here, yet they want everything they see in front of them for free (and are getting it). The idea of them taking jobs that American's don't want is a bunch of bull****. They took my husband's job of over 20 years and they took over the factory that I work at myself, we wanted those job but they came and took them with cutthroat wages and illegal manipulation of the system by finding people who are just as corrupt as them. In my opinion they need to be rounded up and sent back over the boarder, build the fence above and below and secure it tight. If you want to come here, come the right way, if not stay out. But don't expect me to bend over backwards to accommodate you when you come here for the sole purpose of inconveniencing me. My ancestors came through Ellis Island and went though all the changes that were needed to become an American so what is their excuse other than being too lazy to do the same. They are cheating the ones who come here legitimately and go through all the proper channels, including learning English, so why should anyone give them a break and learn their language to make it that much easier for them. If I choose to learn another language it will be because there is someone that I respect enough to learn it for. I don't respect criminals esp., ones that take the food out of my childrens' mouths. Don't get me wrong I understand the desperation of their countries but wrong is wrong, not matter how you look at it.
• United States
4 Aug 08
That is another topic in itself, illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants who are here only for that purpose and put down America while here to get what they need are not respected by me. Illegal immigrants who are here to see family that are over here and they are not yet legal to be here, that is different. I can respect them because they are doing no harm. And in that case, I can respect that they do not know our language, as they didn't plan on staying here very long. It is true that the Government plays favorites to them, if you ask me. I tried to get unemployment after working for 3 years straight and never taking unemployment, and I was denied. I had every rightful reason to be accepted for unemployment, as I was laid off unexpectedly and paid my dues. I also once tried to get healthcare through the Government, and I was told I had to wait 18 months and it would be $250 a month, which is more than an individual plan would cost me. I don't think they specifically took your job, it's just that they are willing to accept cheaper wages and that's how business is: they hire the ones who cost less and do the same or better quality of work.
@gegegelay (933)
• Philippines
4 Aug 08
Oh, I would love to learn Spanish! I actually learned a bit of it by myself. I don't think there's any harm in learning other people's languages. It's good that you also learn their language in order for you to be able to communicate with them as well. Not all of us have the same language, so I think it's also good if you allow yourself to adjust to their own language and be able to adapt as well. But if you have no interests in learning their language, then atleast show that you respect theirs even if you don't intend to actually learn it.
• United States
4 Aug 08
I definitely respect their language and would love to learn Spanish. It was just the way she stated that I was uneducated by not knowing Spanish. For me, it was never something I needed to do to adapt until I started working, so I never learned.
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
4 Aug 08
When I was young, second graders in my elementary school became part of a study and we had to learn French. We had to take it until 7th grade, then we could continue with French or choose German or Latin. I took French from 2nd until part way through 12th grade. By then, not only was I reading entire novels in French, but I really did read them in French (as opposed to reading them in French and automatically translating it in my head). I wish now that I had continued learning and speaking it. The only thing I remember is a poem I had to learn in 11th grade. Back then, everyone had to take some kind of language. We had to have at least 2 years of a foreign language for college. I know that it helped us with our own English language to study another one. But I don't think everyone should rush out and learn Spanish. Spanish speaking people who have come here legally usually try to learn English, or at least make sure their children speak English. It's the illegals who seem to think that they don't have do that. Learning another language is a good idea for everyone, I think. But I think if I were young, I'd probably try learning sign language and Chinese. There are many who think that we'll be taken over by the Chinese one day and it might be good to know.
• United States
5 Aug 08
But the thing is I know people who do speak other languages, and then they get criticized because they do not speak it "correctly". So it's more of an offense to the other cultures to learn incorrectly than to not speak it at all.
@magojordan (3252)
• Philippines
4 Aug 08
I think what she did was really wrong. I think you not being able to speak Spanish shouldn't be a big deal for her since you are living in a place where it is not the main language. Since I'm a European languages major I studied Spanish and French not to make others feel that they are discriminated but rather to communicate with others who know this language as well and to teach it to those who don't know it
• United States
4 Aug 08
Yes, I think it was wrong for her to lash out at me because I do not speak a language that was not mandatory for me to learn. When in High School, you tend to not think about how language will enhance your credibility and help others not feel discriminated against. I've been considering taking it for a while, at least Spanish for Business.
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
4 Aug 08
I do not think that you should have to learn Spanish. I think that it is ridiculous what is happening. Why can't they just learn English? I've had the exact same thing happen to me. People getting mad at me cuz I don't speak spanish. It makes me so mad. I'm getting so frustrated just thinking about this BS, so I'm just going to stop typing.
• United States
5 Aug 08
And the best part was that she was speaking English, so I don't see why she had to discriminate against me as someone who speaks English when she could clearly speak it herself.
• United States
4 Aug 08
Many years ago I turned down a job offer because I refused to learn Spanish. After living in Texas for a while, I can and have picked up a few words in Spanish but do not care to learn it. I stand firm on my belief that any newcomer to America should have to speak English and take drivers liscense courses in English. America is being bout out by foreigners as we speak. No, speak English and speak it LOUDER!
• United States
4 Aug 08
This is kind of silly, but at Geno's steaks in Philadelphia (where I am located), he has a sign up that says "This is America! Order in English or don't order at all!" Or something similar to that. Kind of rude, caused lots of controversy, but that's his view, right?