Best Method To Bring Up A Child?
By acevivx
@acevivx (1566)
Philippines
August 5, 2008 9:00am CST
They say sparing the rod would spoil a child but others also say that it is better to try reasoning out with a child than being heavy with the hand. Or should it be a combination of both? Would a child who grew up toeing the line or being placed under strict lifestyle rules be necessarily be a more disciplined adult than one who grew up in an atmosphere of reasonableness and not so rigid lifestlye?
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@doubleloveyou (2466)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Yes the Bible say that to spare the rod is to spoil the child. It also says that a fool hates discipline.
I don't know about your children, they may actually be the exception to the rule, but I have never met a child who has the ability to reason. As they become young adults this becomes a reality but children can only reason according to their knowledge. It is not our job as a parent to try to reason with them.
Here is an example: My child wants to play in the street. I tell them no. They ask "Why?" I can choose to try to reason with them and depending on how old they are they may or may not understand. So I say "Because if you do you may get hurt". That sounds reasonable, right? To us yes. To a child who only understands that I want what I want. To them the phrase "You may get hurt" could be interpretted as "The feeling I get when I get a splinter" So they go ahead and play in the street. Now you can go and try to reason with them again or you can go out of love toward them and discipline them so that they can know what to expect the next time.
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@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
6 Aug 08
I don't know if it is a fact that you can't reason with a child. Of course you may not be able to reason with a child at the same level that you would reason with an adult but I can't accept tht you cannot reason with him at all by using examples that he can understand at his level. Also, while a two or three year old child might not find it easy to understand when you explain the possible consequences of an act still when they grow older i believe they can be reasoned with more easily. If a child does something wrong, can't we make the child understand that it was wrong without resorting to physical discipline? I would rather try first to reason out or explain the reason why the act is wrong and should not be repeated before using the rod and i don't think discipline is synonymous to not sparing the rod. There are times when we should not spare the rod and there are times when it is better not to be so fast to use the rod.And my daughter is not an exception to any rule. It's just that when she was a baby ,then a toddler then a little bit older like two three years old, I didn't believe in using the "rod" as she was too young to understand why she was being "disciplined" but in my own way, I tried to make her feel and understand that something is not good to do. As she grew older, there are times I discilined her by not sparing the rod but more often than not, I made her understand the wrongness of an act by patiently explaining to her. She's now 21 years old, and she's not spoiled despite being an only child and i have often been complimented for bringing her up quite well.
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@doubleloveyou (2466)
• United States
6 Aug 08
I do agree with you that children can be reasoned with to an extent. OF coarse as they get older speaking to them is a much better format than a spnk or a hand pat. I have 4 children that range from 6 to 15. One of my children has a learning disability that cuases her to not understand ANY logic. So reasoning does not work at all, but neither does corporal punishment. So what do you do? You adapt.
Each child responds different than the next. Solomon in Proverbs makes this statement not as a licence to only use this type of discipline but to also not withhold it if needed. If you read the rest of that book in the bible you will see that the frist several chapters Solomon is telling us to "Listen to Wisdom" Rod should never come first. It would be terrible if (Being an adult at work) your boss came up to you and saw you doing something that you had no idea was wrong and he fores you frist without explaining that what you are doing is wrong. The main focus in Proverbs is gaining wisdom. The "Rod" is only one teaching tool, NOT the only one.
I do hope this clarifies my position on this.
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@devylan (695)
• United States
5 Aug 08
I believe you need a combination of both. The Bible can be interpreted in many ways, and without trying to start a whole other discussion on theology, I will say that another way to interpret the phrase "spare the rod spoil the child" would be the exact opposite, in that you should not use the rod as much, and you should spoil the child with love and affection more. I have a twenty-month old son, so reasoning at this point is not much of an option, but when I make him stop doing things I always tell him why, even when I have to resort to a little smack on the hand or thigh. However, there are times when I don't give a reason for spanking him, and that is when it is in response to him hitting or kicking me when I change his diaper. Yes, he cries at first, but then he sticks his thumb in his mouth and lies there quietly while I finish. Another example of using both reason and corporal punishment is when he touches or picks something up I do not want him to touch, like if he tries to play with the computer (he is too young for me to teach him the difference between the keys and which ones he should and shouldn't press), first, I tell him calmly to stop touching it. If he continues, ignoring me in the process, I tell him more firmly not to touch it. Usually, I only have to tell him once, but if he is in a particularly obstinate mood and continues to touch it after the second time of me telling him to stop, I smack his hand and pull him away from the computer, giving him something else more age appropriate to play with. This brings me to another form of discipline: distraction. If you don't want your child doing one thing, show him something else that he can do. This is a method my son's daycare/preschool uses. It may not always work, of course, depending on the stubbornness of your child. I would like to add, also, that I was only spanked once in my life. I don't even remember it. My mother told me that she spanked me when I was three and felt so bad about it that she never did it again. I remember being placed in the corner. I also remember that one time my mother locked herself in her room, while I screamed outside of it trying to get her to come out. I am not telling you this as a way to show you some examples of what you should do, but I will say that, although I have made mistakes in my life, I feel like I've turned out to be a decent human being. I always made fairly good grades in school, and now I am married with a son and a job with benefits that I enjoy very much. Of course every child is different, and some need more discipline than others, but I definitely feel like there is a happy medium. A friend of mine told me that she was spanking her son for doing something, and he laughed at her, and when she continued to spank him, he just kept laughing. I felt like telling her that maybe she should try something else, but she did not ask, and I don't feel like it was my place to tell her how to raise her child. If she had asked my opinion of course, like you are asking right now, I would have certainly told her. Whichever form of discipline you choose should have to depend on what the circumstances are surrounding the need and what kind of personality your child has. I hope any of this made sense to you.
@acevivx (1566)
• Philippines
6 Aug 08
Yes, that made good sense to me. You have indeed quite explained it well by sharing how you are bringing up your son but at the same time emphasizing that it also depends on the circumstances, and ways of disciplining can vary. I guess a parent must have to determine or find out what is the best way to do it since what is quite right for one may not be so effective for another. I appreciate your taking the time to share lengthily on the matter.thanks for sharing
@blind_eyed (253)
• Philippines
5 Aug 08
Yes. He would become more disciplined and responsible. Often times they become possessive-compulsive in which they set certainty on things based on the imposed discipline from his childhood. To put things in balance, don't forget to pay a little attention on the social growth of your child so he won't develop an anti social attitude. Proper guidance is a must because it's a fact that children's characters varies.