Do you think it's okay to steal from your own kids?
By mommyboo
@mommyboo (13174)
United States
August 8, 2008 11:16am CST
Warning - this is a bit of a rant. I posted this because I have heard of people who actually steal money or things from their own kids. I'm talking about money that kids receive from friends or relatives for birthdays or holidays, in cards, or money that is sent to them for college funds or savings accounts, things like that. Do you ever think this is okay? I don't. I don't think it's ever okay to take money that does not belong to you. Your kids are not possessions, so anybody who says 'heck yeah it's your kids so it's your money' are wrong.
If your kids receive money or savings bonds or anything from friends or relatives, do you put it away for your kids or let them have it? If you have ever taken it and used it, why?
My older kids have always just received any money and kept it and used it for whatever they wanted to. My youngest has two piggy banks full of money and money set aside to start a college fund. She won't have access to that of course till she's 18, but it will be allotted to pay for any educational expense, including room and board, a laptop if she needs one, books, etc.
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@spiderlizard22 (3444)
• United States
8 Aug 08
No it is not ok to steal from your own kids. It is one thing to save the kids money but it is another to steal the kids money. I say it is ok to hold on to the kids money and give it to them when they are older or to buy an expensive item they want. Sometimes kids do spend all the money they have. But taking the kids money and spending it without ever giving it back to your kid is wrong.
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@wolfewatcher (191)
• Canada
8 Aug 08
my mother used to do it to me. one summer i made over $2000 working my summer job, when i was 16, and she took it all. she would take all the money i made at that job, any money i made babysitting, she would charge the person i babysat for $20gas money to pick me up and then when i was still living at home and i had gotten osap (student loan) i was allotted money to live off she also took that money. i had opened a bank account when i was younger but she had to co sign so she was still on the account when i got my loan money so she went and took the money out. when i had her removed she got right ticked off and had herself put back on, i was 19 by this time, i don't know how she got back on it but she did and the bank wouldn't close the account without her signing too so i just opened an account somewhere else and boy was she POed. when my kids get money i will hold onto it for them til we go where they want to go get something. one time i had to borrow money my daughter had gotten for her birthday so i could get some milk and bread and margarine cause we ran out but she got it back on payday which was only a few days later.
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@wolfewatcher (191)
• Canada
12 Aug 08
with my oldest she likes to spend it but i don't let her go nuts and spend it on stupid stuff. i get her to make sure that that is what she wants. like when grandpa (my dad whos down east) sent her $50 for her birthday in june she ended up getting webkinz. she picked out 3 of them (ihad to add 85 cents for her to get all 3) but thats something she had really wanted. she has them displayed in her bedroom and she plays on the website for them all the time. and its a safe website, (we checked it out) for her to play on, last month she sent her allowance on another one. when it comes to my son hes only 3 and don't really understand money stuff yet so when he got money for his birthday in may we went and helped him pick out some presents. but when he finds change he takes it and hoards it.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
This is awful! I want people who do things like this to pay for it! In my oh so humble opinion, she owes you a LOT of money! I mean it wasn't your fault that she couldn't manage her finances!
Good for you getting a new account without her, whatever that she was ticked. She didn't have a right to that money, she never did. Do your kids set aside any money to save or do they spend most of it? LOL! Like I've said before, borrowing (with the kids knowledge) is okay, but not taking and never returning money.
@belindabentley (223)
• United States
8 Aug 08
What a horrible story! I am so sorry to hear what happened with your mom. I am glad you opened another account and now can handle your own money!!! Bravo!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
I do not see borrowing as a big deal as long as you discuss it with your child or children first. Borrowing is also wrong if you do not ask and it was not agreed to before you took the money. That's like a teen daughter sneaking into mom's room and 'borrowing' her favorite jeans or shoes for a night out she wasn't supposed to go to anyway, then mom discovers the item(s) missing and daughter lies about the disappearance...
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@di1159 (1580)
• United States
8 Aug 08
Its bad enough to steal but from your own kids? I think thats terrible. Every time my children have occasions where they receive money, I always let them keep 1/2 and put 1/2 away in a savings account for the future. I also have a change jar which when filled also gets deposited into their accounts. My son is 14 and daughter 12 and both have a bit over $4,000.00 in their accounts. I have had to "borrow" when I don't have cash on me, but I always tell them, write it down and give it back to them on payday. I try to teach them the value of money and how hard one has to work to get it. I also have to approve of their spendings before they buy something.
@ebookyoung (184)
• Nigeria
8 Aug 08
The word 'steal' is a heavy word as it is used here. And looks like calling a dog a bad name to hang it. One can't steal what belongs to one. Your child/ren is/are your prized possession(s) (not property, mind you). If you believe in the biblical ethos that if you spare the rod you spare the child, then you will come to believe that what you as a parent is doing is not spoiling the child/ren by allowing them to keep money by themselves. You just helping them to keep money for the raining day. I don't allow my children keep money or spend money by themselves. What is your duty as a parent? You think, act, and implement policies/guidelines for your children pending when they are old enough to do so themselves. That is the proper thing to do...not stealing...
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
I respectfully have to say that kids are not your possessions either. People cannot be possessions. I never did belong to my parents, neither do my children belong to me. I am their mother but everything that belongs to them does not 'by default' belong to me because they are my kids. Does that make more sense?
I do want my kids to save some of their money, but it is still theirs. I might prefer my daughter saves some of her allowance when she begins to get one, but that doesn't mean I will take her money if she doesn't save it. If she 'borrows' from me for something she didn't have enough for, or she had enough but her money was at home, then she could just pay me when she had the money - but that would be a loan from me, not me taking something that was hers just because.
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@belindabentley (223)
• United States
8 Aug 08
Hell no...what kids learn they learn from parent so if you still from them they learn to keep letting people do that through life, or they learn to do it to others. I have my daughter spend half and the other half goes into savings. So she will learn to save. What we teach our kids now, is what they grow up to be later.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
I think that helping make it easy to save while your kids are young is the best way to do it. I didn't really have much financial knowledge when I was first on my own - well, outside of making sure I had a big cushion socked away before I moved out and that I could afford all of my bills on my meager second-job-ever salary. I did not save much if any when I was in my early 20s though, it was impossible when I only made $5.50 an hour and had an apartment, car ins, utilities, food, gas, etc.
Saving is much easier if it's become a habit, and if you put aside some right off the top. That way you don't miss it.
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@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
8 Aug 08
I don't think its okay to steal from your child. When my daughter was born we received a lot of money we used what we had to to buy her the things she needed the put the rest away for her. At her age there is nothing that she really wants it more what I want her to have so any money she gets - if there is something I want to get her I do. If not it all goes in the bank. With my older kids if they get birthday or christmas money half of it gets put away. They get to keep the other half to spend as they want. I think buy doing this you are not only teaching a child to save but teaching them responsibilty. They know that they are responsible to keep there banks in order. We sit and "balance" (which is just add) the savings book together. Even my 7 year old knows how to do it. Like my son (11) just got a $50 check we made out the deposit slip with him depositing 25 and keeping 25. I let him do the first slip himself and we corrected it. Then we had to "balance" the deposit book. Anyway I'm off subject here. There are other ways to get money other then your kids.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
I will explain a way to save to my daughter when she starts wanting to spend. She doesn't get an allowance yet but she does have money in banks put away. When she does receive an allowance, she will have a choice. Whatever amount she saves, I will match, so if she gets $2 a week and she decides to save the whole thing, that means I will give her $2 on top of it. If she saves $1, then I will give her another $1. If she doesn't want to save any of it, she will get no incentive but I won't mind if she spends it. Each week it will be up to her. I think that she WILL probably always save a certain amount because she sees me doing that, and I talk to her a lot about having to wait until you have enough money for most things you buy. She is too young to understand about credit yet.
Anyway, I just don't like the idea of parents or other relatives who use money that is supposed to be for their children or belong to their children on anything that is not for the children. I mean if they (the kids) need new furniture or pjs or the money can go toward a swing set or a playhouse, cool, but it should not be spent on 'toys' for the parents or junk that isn't for the kids.
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@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
8 Aug 08
I agree that it is horribly wrong. My husband's parents extorted thousands of dollars from him. A few years ago, they forced him to get two student loans and then took most of it from him. They were having a "hard time" and it was "payback" for them letting him live there. I'm sorry, but if they wanted rent, they should have asked for it, not forced him to to into debt for their mistakes.
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@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
13 Aug 08
Oh yeah, my husband's parents took his paychecks, too. I forgot about that part. He was 21 when they kicked him out and they'd been taking his paychecks every summer since he was 16. Nothing belonged to him. Everything was subject to being taken by his parents for any reason at any time. They even took his bed to give to their younger son's pregnant girlfriend. And kicked him out onto the street, after extorting every penny he had, to turn his room into the nursery.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
This is horrible. The way I was raised, my money was mine. Anything that I was given as a gift was MINE, anything I earned was MINE. I did not have to share it with anybody if I didn't want to, but I could spend it on anybody I wished or share it with whomever I wished. My husband's mom took his paychecks when he was a teen and he finally got fed up, bought a motorcycle, and left and joined the military when he was 17. I don't blame him at ALL. I would never but never take my kids' paychecks. If there was something going on there would always be another way. My kids don't OWE me for taking care of them, for raising them, for being my kids. The idea that kids owe parents just for being their parents is astounding.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
16 Aug 08
OMG. That is really rotten of them. I really think that some people had kids on accident and really should not have had kids. Awful awful people some folks are...
And see, I'm glad to see a story worse than mine. I became independent very early and was always particular about 'my things'. The reason for this is that I had to make sure nobody else got their grubby little hands on my things without my permission lol. I denied my dad from trying to co-sign on my first car because I just KNEW if he did that he'd find a reason to take it away whenever it suited him, therefore screwing ME because I had a job and needed the dang car to get to work. I would NEVER do that to somebody else, I still don't see how people get off acting that way!
@Carrie26 (1587)
• United States
9 Aug 08
No I think it is wrong.I have never done this.Its not right to take from them as when they get old enough to understand what you are doing then they will think its okay to steal.In my opinion.My cousin used to take her sons money all the time when he was little and people gave him money either for birthdays,christmas,ect.I felt bad for him as she never even paid him back.
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@Carrie26 (1587)
• United States
12 Aug 08
Yeah kids arent an easy task.LOL.I really dont know why she did it.I know that she still trys to bum money off of her kids when her husband,grandparents,etc give them money whether it be for Christmas,Birthdays,etc.My cousin and her husband are divorced due to her doings in part but thats a long story I wont get into it she never cheated on him but its just to long to explain.LOL.Her ex boyfriend which was really good to her gave her kids giftcards for Christmas knowing she would probably try to take it if it was money.I can understand to a point if money was tight and she would pay them back but to steal and not pay them back is wrong.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
Did she ever explain herself, give a reason? I have seen a few reasons stated here. It looks like overwhelmingly it's parents who are poor with money taking advantage of the fact that their child has some money or a form of financial benefit and they think they are entitled. This is a rather scary attitude. I think it also comes from people who regard their kids as possessions or property, or they think their kids owe them just because parents do so much. If you feel that way about your kids, why did you have kids? Having kids is not an easy task, this should be understood before people take the necessary steps to HAVE them lol.
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@alori61 (344)
• United States
8 Aug 08
My childrens money belongs to my children. There have been times when I may have borrowed it but I always make sure I pay them back (lol and so do they). At times I have controled what they spend gift money on but I have never taken it from them that's just wrong and I can't figure out people that think it is ok.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
I have made suggestions to my older kids before about what they might spend money on (including asking my daughter NOT to spend it on me) but that is it. I can't really in good conscience tell them how to spend a gift. Besides, they are now 17 and almost 19 and the 19 year old moved out, so that would just be silly trying to tell her how to spend her money.
With my little one, I guess it just depends what she wants to spend money on in the future.
@selece (2357)
• Philippines
10 Aug 08
I think it is not right to steal anybody... Stealing was never right, no matter from someone you do not know or someone close to you. I too know some people who have done what you have previously mentioned. It's sad that they treat their kids that way. People like those do not know how to handle their kids, sooner or later I wouldn't be surprised if their children grow rebellious or insensitive.
@honeydew82174 (1720)
• United States
14 Aug 08
That is just wrong to take from your own children. I always let my kids do what they want with there money. Sometimes they put it in savings and sometimes they spend it but it is their decision. My hubby gave my niece $20 dollars the other day so she could get her dog a shot at the vet and as soon as he left her parents took it away from her. We were upset. So we end up going to the vet office and paying for it so she could take the dog in. We can not give her money anymore but now we are going to find away around it. Those parents should be ashamed of them selves.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
16 Aug 08
I have actually done the same thing myself, if I have discovered due to trial and error that I cannot give somebody money because somebody ELSE takes it, then I will just buy the thing or things the person needs, or pay for a service, or get them a gift card, etc etc. I'm sure it angers the person who used to take the money but heck, I want my help to go to the person I'm intending it for, not the greedy numbnut who vampirizes my friend lol.
@Angra_Mainyu (377)
• United States
8 Aug 08
This would depend on the situation. And I would not consider it stealing. It is called contributing to the family.
Here is an example. The child's parents drive the child all over the country so the kid can compete in sports. If the vehicle were to become inoperable and money is taken from the child I would consider that a contribution.
Some parents can not afford to replace a vehicle that was run down from driving the kid all over the place. Shouldn't the child be taught some responsibility for their actions?
Also if the money is going to be used for food, would that be considered stealing?
Or if the child's money was taken to pay for gas to take them to their outside school activities. Would that be considered stealing?
"Johnny we can't afford to take you to your wrestling match 2 hours away because gas is $4 a gallon." Would it be ok to take the money to pay for gas?
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@livintx49 (245)
• United States
8 Aug 08
Who's idea was it to put Johnny in all those sports-the parents or his? Parents are the responsible ones if you can't afford to take them all the places tell them.Simply say I can't afford it.
@samijo719 (1052)
• United States
8 Aug 08
The fact that you said that the child should be taught responsibilty for the PARENTS car breaking down because God forbid they play sports and aren't on the streets doing durgs, astounds me. I find that comment to so ignorant. I mean really if you 7 year old kid is playing softball or something and your car breaks down as result of you driving him you'd make them pay...ridiculous!!!
It is the PARETNS responsibilty to support there child in the sport and activities they participate in and ulitmately without the parents okay they wouldnt be doing them.
@Angra_Mainyu (377)
• United States
10 Aug 08
So what you are saying is children from low income families should not participate in sports because the parents can not afford it.
What you said is ignorant. Maybe you have never been poor and have had to do without. Unfortunately not everyone is as wealthy as you.
Someone who is dirt poor might not be able to afford to take their child to sporting events. Some parents do not even have a vehicle. You should take a look at the world. Not everyone is as wealthy as you.
@payout (3794)
• United States
8 Aug 08
I don't think you taking something from your kids would even be consider stealing really you probably bought it lol, I really don't see how that would be stealing from your kids, well if you just take it and never give it back then I'll consider you a stealing mother who steals from her kids just to get what she wants. ha ha. Other then that your find lol :P well never stole anything form someone. Well if you consider take my sisters blistex stealing then okay, I told her the next day I took it from her lol so BLAH. well yeah take care and keep posting. :D Happy Mylotting. :D
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
I mean money that someone else has given your child, say $10 in a birthday card, $2 from the tooth fairy, a giftcard for christmas, things like that. Either way, that money is earmarked for your child, which means it is not yours, even if you are the parent.
@academic2 (7000)
• Uganda
12 Aug 08
Any theft, whether it is from yourself is si, bcause the 10 commandments say it loud and clear, thou shall not steal, it doesnt qualify stealing from within your family as a lesser sin!
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
9 Aug 08
I have never stolen from my kid. I have borrowed with her permission and paid her back with interest. If I borrow $20, I pay her $25. She LOVES to lend me money. I always pay her back when I say I will. I think it is very wrong to steal from your kids and sets a very bad example.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
Yes it does! It is a terrible example and a horrible attitude and I can't understand why people who do take money from their kids or people who borrow constantly can't see that. Hehe.. I bet she doesn't mind you borrowing though if she knows she'll get back MORE in return for it. Who could resist that?
@gemini_rose (16264)
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9 Aug 08
I would never take money from my kids, I opened savings accounts for my children from the day they were born and deposit money into them each week from when they were born. Even when we have been absolutely skint I have never touched their accounts.
When they get money for their birthdays or christmas I put some away for them and they spend the rest on what they want. I have never touched a penny of their money.
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@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
9 Aug 08
Absolutely not! My parents set aside all my money received from friends and relatives and put them in the bank. Now that I have a daughter, that is exactly what I'm doing for her. Sometimes, my husband wants to borrow her money and I always say no. If it's a small amount, I made sure he returns it. So now he never asks again. I named myself as guardian of my daughter's bank account so he has no access to it. I detest people who take away other people's money, even if it's from their own kids.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
I have seen so many posts about borrowing! I do not understand why so many people would be in a bad enough position that they would NEED to borrow ten dollars from their three year old out of a piggy bank. To me that's almost insane! Don't people have savings accounts or atm cards, or a change jar somewhere? Most places do take cards if you don't regularly carry cash.
@00BleedingShadow00 (784)
• Philippines
9 Aug 08
NO!!! That is so sick! If you and your kids are hungry because you have no money and then suddenly someone gave your kid money it is Ok if you barrow the money and tell your kid that you are going to return it. But stealing it from your kid? That is so sick and pathetic! I remember my sister told me when she was 7 years old, our dad came home and stole her coin bank made from bamboo. That was really heart breaking for my sister because she knew that dad is going to spend her money for his drinking habits.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
Like I said in the comment above this one, if you borrow and your child okays it, it is okay, but you must pay it back. If you borrow without intent to pay it back, then it's considered stealing. It is never a child's fault if their parents cannot keep their finances steady.
@faln_angel1205 (1192)
• United States
12 Aug 08
Its not ok to steal from your kids, i will say however though, that if things are getting tough, and im sure this is the case with more than one person here at mylot, its ok to borrow from their savings as long as you know you can put it back, but tell them what you are doing...if they are young like maybe 10 or younger, than no. but if they are a bit older or mature enough to understand, then i see no harm in it. I havent done this as my son is only 5 and if i was to ask him if i could have some of his money i know he would say yes, but it wouldnt be a fair question since he has no clue as to wwhy. My sis has from her kids, but they each knew and she always put it back, and they are fine with that.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
12 Aug 08
I do think borrowing is okay as long as it isn't constant and it is done with the child's knowledge and consent and you intend to pay it back and you DO pay it back. The problem with this is that sometimes it becomes a crutch, something that parents begin to rely on. This is poor planning and poor financial dealings, and were those sources of money to stop coming to your kids, then you'd be strapped with no way out because you didn't find ANOTHER way instead in the first place. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, and just because something is easy doesn't mean it should be your first choice.
This is a general comment, not directed toward you. I read most of these responses all in a row so I'm a bit in turmoil over a couple of them.