Should Hillary Be Chosen By Obama?
By worldwise1
@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
August 14, 2008 1:19pm CST
There has been much speculation about who Obama will select as his running mate in the upcoming election. Many supporters of Hillary Clinton feel that she should be the Vice President since she ran such a close race during the primaries. I am among those supporters. I feel that if Obama really wants to unify the party as he keeps saying he would choose this option, but I don't think it is going to happen. If you are a Democrat -or not- do you think this would be a sign of true reconciliation within the party?
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I may be wrong here but is Obama Just the Presumptive candidate? He is not the official candidate till he is named at the Convention. I think it is still possible (and Probable) that the DNC will reject OBAMA as their candidate in favor of Hillary.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Oh, Happy Day! You really get it, morethanamolehill. I have every reason to believe that we should expect the unexpected in the upcoming election. We shall see.
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Thanks for the BR, and more importantly, Thanks for the compliment. After being called everything but a Red Headed Stepchild on here it's a refreshing change. WOOT!
@elaine5004 (84)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Question is will they? Obama has had quite a ride with the press. Seems like the press has decided who they want and slants the reports toward that candidate. Edwards said he would wait until the people had spoken before casting his support one way or another and yet the instant it looked like Clinton was winning, threw his support to Obama like the next day. What was that about??? What happened to the wait and see how this plays out speech given the night before. Is the DNC basing their decisions on who is really the best candidate regardless of gender? No matter who is named, it will make history so lets keep race, age, and gender out of it for a minute. Wonder what would have happened if the DNC, press and the public was given a report on each candidate without any identifying information that would tell them who it is, and the decision of who should be nominated would be based on qualifications, accomplishments, a list of problems to solve with answers as to how each problem would be addressed sent in by the public who has been living in the real world of minimum wage, paying $4 a gallon for gas, having to decide on how sick they are and if they can afford to go to the doctor, the elderly which runs out of coverage on Medicare half way through the year and can't afford the medicine they need,etc would the choices still be made the same? I think we should take a good look at what each of us need resolved to make our lives easier. Evaluate which candidate left in the game can meet the most needs and make that choice. Perhaps, now that the candidates have narrowed down to a few, we should let the popular vote make that decision on election day and forget about super delegates getting to decide our fate. Most of us will never make the kind of money that Congress lives on that makes the rules we must live in, maybe come election day, we need to take a hard look at which members of congress have done the least to help us survive and vote someone else in while we are at it. They get a raise every year, did they earn it???
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
14 Aug 08
Speaking from a purly analytical point, I think the worst thing Obama could do would be to put her on the ticket. He has enough fires to put out as it is. If I were his campaign manager, I would advise against it. She comes with a great deal of experience to a degree, but she also comes with a great deal of baggage and she comes fully equipped with bill. I think a better choice for him would be perhaps bill richards. A fairly non controversial figure of hispanic origan, could help with the hispanic vote in addition to getting the interest of the southwest region, where Obama could use a boost. Another good choice for him would be Joe biden, though a bit more controversial, he does have the foriegn policy experience that could sway those still not too sure of Obama's abilities in this area. But no, I don't think Clinton is going to be a help to his campaign, I honestly think it could do a great deal of damage to it.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
14 Aug 08
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, xfahctor, but the only "baggage" I perceive people contributing to Hillary is Bill. The man made a mistake while he was President, I'll admit, but I think he has paid enough.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
14 Aug 08
I realize he has paid quite a bit. however, look at the damage he did to her campaign every time he opened his mouth. I mean, it makes no difference to me who he picks, I'm not voting for obama, I was just saying that if I were advising him, thats how I would look at it, it's just a cold reality that needs to be looked at when running a campaign, you can't always help your friends and you can't always shoot your enemies. It's just the way the boxxing ring of politics works.
@evanslf (484)
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14 Aug 08
A difficult call for Obama this one. If Hillary had won the nomination, it would have made a lot of sense to have Obama as her VP. But with Obama winning on a strong message of change, not sure if Hillary would be the right choice. Then again, choosing her would help unify the Dem party and she could prove very useful in a number of key states, eg Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida.
However, I don't think Obama will be able to get along with Clinton, especially her husband, there is a lot of bad blood out there. I think Obama either goes for a younger candidate to reinforce his message of change and doing politics differently (note this is what Bill Clinton did when he select Al Gore) or he goes for the 'unity' message and reaches across to Republicans by selecting Hagel as his VP. Hagel would also help re the experience / foreign policy issue.
@carolscash (9492)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I believe in party unity. However, I do not think that Obama should put Hillary on the ticket as VP or in office in any other postion either. Bill Clinton doesn't need to be near the White House again. He was impeached and he should have been removed from office. I know that she should not have to pay for his mistakes,but she will.
I don't believe that she offers as much experience as some think that she does. I don't believe that she would be a good running mate with Obama as they have such different views on politics and the changes that need to be made.
I am not sure of who I would like to see run as VP with Obama but I do know who I would not want to see. I am a huge Obama supporter but I would have a hard time voting for him if she was his running mate.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Ah, carolscash, that is the opposite side of the coin! I was a Hillary supporter and would find it difficult to support Obama. As for Bill, he was punished according to what the law would allow. I still admire him -not for his sins- but for the good he did for our nation during his time in office. If we are willing to scrutinize anyone closely enough I am certain we would be able to find that each and every one of us has some flaw. Man(and woman), is sinful by nature, but it should not detract from the good works they have done.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
15 Aug 08
Hi worldwise, I certainly don't think that Obama will chose Hillary as his running mate, Although it did look like a possibility for a little while that both these names would be on the ticket. I'm sure that Obama will make the right choice when the time is right. Blessings.
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@elaine5004 (84)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I would think that it would depend on whether he was offering the position to her because she really would be a good vice president or offering her the position to rack up votes to win the election. If he is only offering it as a token gesture in hopes of winning, then I don't think it will bring reconciliation to anything, let alone the problems to resolve in the White House.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
15 Aug 08
You are right, of course, elaine. I think the phrase "honest politician" is an oxymoron.
@elaine5004 (84)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Nice definition. It will be hard to decide this year. Neither candidate has convinced me they are prepared to resolve the problems of the people. And there are quite a few that should be addressed realistically before the final vote is cast.
@danrunsfast614 (1396)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I don't think he will, but I think it is the best way to bring about unity and ensure victory. I wish he would.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I wholeheartedly agree, danrunsfast, but I suppose he has to answer to a higher authority just like most everyone else.
@GardenGerty (160721)
• United States
14 Aug 08
I think that it would be a politically smart move for him, but do not think it will happen. I am not even sure that Hillary would accept. It was a close race.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I have to agree with you, GG, and the emphasis being placed on uniting the party is all a sham, in my opinion.
@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I don't think Obama should choose Hillary just to unify the party. I do however think that he should choose her. I think she has so much to offer in this position. It was very painful watching the primary campaign because I like both of them so much.
But I don't think Hillary should be the VP as a consolation prize. I don't feel she needs it and I think it is insulting. I think she should be selected as his running mate because she is so qualified for the role.
@N4life (851)
• United States
14 Aug 08
I don't think Obama should choose Hillary Clinton as VP. I am not sure if it would be good for the ticket. My issue is that with Obama running on his brand of change that has gathered him so many loyal supporters, it could hurt his base badly. This is not only because of a Clinton having already been president but because the way Hillary is percieved to have run her campaign by Obama supporters. She was just as negative if not more negative than McCain has been. She has chosen to behave more like a queen who was unlawfully dethroned than a candidate who lost an election. Not sure if Obama needs all of Hillary's supporters to win this election. Obama has so many new registered voters excited for him that this will not be a normal election. McCains base is not that fired up about him so Republican turnout should be low. I think he goes with someone who has been with him on the trail for awhile, has similar politics and is experienced. Senator Joseph Biden would be a good bet.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
15 Aug 08
In my opinion, N4life, all political campaigns are negative to one degree or another. It's the nature of the beast. You gain favor by pointing up your opponents shortcomings. Sure, Obama has lots of young, newly registered supporters, but will they be there for the long haul? I wouldn't underestimate the Republicans in this election because they want to win this one badly. I've seen quite a few elections during my lifetime and I only hope that this one is not as disappointing as it promises to be.
@N4life (851)
• United States
16 Aug 08
I agree that all compaigns are negative to an extent. I just think that Hillary hit a little low for any race let alone a primary race. I'm not completely counting the Republicans out, just not ginving jhim much chance. Recent polls at this time before Presidential general elections have been very accurate and I see no reason why this election will be different. The real question is will Americans rally together after the election, no matter who wins, and make sure our country regains its' luster. This is up to the American people who were lulled to sleep by decent paying corporation jobs only to find out the corporations will bail on us.