Our public/private back yard!
By arkaf61
@arkaf61 (10881)
Canada
August 14, 2008 3:41pm CST
We've been living in this house for about 20 years now.
WHen we bought it a garage was not really a must, and sure enough this one didn't have one.
THere was a fence on each side, separating our house and back yard from that of the neighbors beside us and the rest of the space was open all the way to the lane way.
Like many other houses in here, part of the back yard is often used either to build a garage or to use as parking space. THere is a laneway in between the back yards of the houses in our street and the ones from the street on the other side.
When we got our home we had no kids and there really weren't that many kids in the neighborhood.
We never had any problems.
WIth time we made a small fence halfway in our back yard just for some privacy, and left the other end - the one that ended in the lane way - open to put our cars. We never closed it or felt the need to.
Sure a lot of people in the other houses fenced their back yards all the way to the lane way. SOme added garages. Some just made it so they could open the gate/fence to put their cars in and close after.
I think there are only 3 or 4 that are open like ours. But one has a boat and an old car on theirs , two have huge sheds, and one looks like the jungle, nobody can get there :)
Ours is open and free so we can park our cars there each day. It is paved and clean.
Two months ago the house beside us on one side was sold. The back yard on that house is nice, closed and has no parking space. Instead it is nicely done with grass and benches.
All that is fine each person does what they won't in their property. The problem is the new owners seem to view our space for our cars - in our property - as a public parking space. It's not our fault that they can't park on their own back yard.
The first time I noticed I looked at the window and see a van parked outside. It was not ours and we weren't expecting anyone so I was a bit puzzled. I meant to go out to check what it was but I was doing something and didn't have a chance. An hour later it was gone.
A few days later there was a truck there. And then another. I had to go and check.
Apparently they were doing some renovations on the house next door and they thought they could park there. But nobody asked us if they could or not.
Last week my husband came from work, parked the car and a man in a van told him" You took my parking spot" my husband was laughing already " What? Does this look like public parking? " "Oh. the owner of the house gave me permission" it sure wasn't any of us " THe owner of that house" and he pointed to the house beside us.
"Well, does it look like this area belongs to that house? WHy would the owner of the house next door have the right to tell you to park in my property?"
SO we talked to the new owners. Apparently since they have no parking space they feel that they have the right to use ours!!!!
But it doesn't end there. THe new owners - they bought it about a year ago - of the house on the other side fenced their back yard a few months back. THe problem is, to open the gate, they need to go on our property, or else get a stepladder. What is our property? Public space?
But there is more. In the house directly in front of our back yard across from the lane way. THey started to build a fence. But we are not really sure of what they meant to build, because there is a huge 4x10 wood post about 2 feet from the side of their property. WHat happens is that to park their car they can't maneuver unless they enter our space first and then back up into theirs.
DOes this make sense?
To make things worse, there are a lot more kids in the neighborhood. THey all play in the lane way and for some reason use our parking space as their quarters. THey assemble there, they bring their skates, bikes, scooters, helmets, dolls, etc ANd then they leave everything there. HEck last weekend I found a woman from a few houses down, with a lawn chair sitting there watching the kids playing and doing crochet.. excuse me?
Last week they left two bikes right in the middle. It was just by luck that I went there and saw them or else when my daughter came back form work at night, she might not have seen them and damage the car - couldn't care less about the bikes.
So we decided to close it. Hubby has been building the two doors so we can open it for the cars and close it once they're in.
And now they are all really upset. One because he can't use it as his parking space - since when was he allowed to use my property? Do what we did, divide the backyard in half and use it to park your car-, the other one because he can't open his gate - who would build something in a way that you need to enter the neighbor's property to open? - the other because she can't maneuver her car to park on her own backyard without using our space - easy take that single post out of your own property, the car will then enter - and the others because now the kids have to play in the lane way - duh! My kids had to do the same. Even though there were more open ones when they were kids I always explained to them that it wasn't our property so they weren't to even get in. I taught them to respect other people's property because I felt that it is important.
So now after almost 20 years of no problems we have to resort to close it, because people are taking our space for granted.
Have you ever encountered people like this? How did you deal with it?
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10 responses
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I am a firm believer in the saying that high fences make good neighbors. and that is one reason I have always chosen to live in gated communities. However, even there you will sometimes find people breaking the rules from the inside out. Uncivilized behavior is a problem wherever you find it. Sometimes we just moved to a new location. Truly.
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@GardenGerty (160665)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Shrubs work well as a buffer most times. and I can park my own car in the way. I would really like to block it all off, but then I would give up the option of parking in the church parking lot if I needed to. I feel like it is okay, it is my church, and I do pick up trash there when needed. We each need a million dollars to remodel our homes and yard, right friend? Good fences do make good neighbors, as Robert Frost said.
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
15 Aug 08
I never paid much attention to that saying because there were never problems. THis was just so sudden we hardly had time to think. We didn't have a problem with the lady entering our parking spot to park on our own. It didn't bother us. But them suddenly it was like our property was public property. And without even asking. THat's a no-no in my book :)
Well it's taken care of now, and they can rant and rave all they want. ABuse is not to be rewarded.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
14 Aug 08
It is your space, so relaim it before someone claims squatters rights. It is too bad that after all this time you get different sorts of people as neighbours. Do not upset yourself about the fact that one of them can't open his gate and the other one can't park her car. These people have to find solutions to the problems they have created themselve. Be friendly but be aware that it is not your problem and you did not create it.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
15 Aug 08
There are all sorts of people in this world and you have to safeguard your rights and property. Goof, I am happy you did something about it.
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
15 Aug 08
It has been reclaimed since last tuesday when hubby put the gate up and closed it. It just needs a few finishing touches but it's closed already.
The idea that one would take someone else's property for granted without even asking is so alien to me, that at first I had trouble getting it LOL
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
14 Aug 08
The Cheek of some People is just unbelievable I can not understand People like that it is just awful
I am glad that you have closed it all of but the cheek of them complaining about it
The rudeness of People today is just to much
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
15 Aug 08
It seems so odd that they would actually build things that need access from our own private property - and without even asking.
The people that used to live in the house beside us - before it was sold - had a small area that they couldn't reach after they built the shed. One day when we were talking they mentioned that it was a great place for seasonal storage but that they couldn't use it because they had no access. We never had any problems with them. Actually they were great neighbors and friends, so we offered to allow them to come in trough our yard and use it whenever they needed. But that was our decision to make the offer.
A few years later they actually covered it and arranged the shed differently and they didn't need to come trough our yard anymore. They were our neighbors for 20 years, there was never any problems.
This ones just come in and show that they have no idea of what boundaries are. Grrrr
Hubby is just finishing our gates on the weekend, they just need the finishing touches. But everything has been closed since last tuesday.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
15 Aug 08
It is irritating when someone doesn't respect the rights or property of another.
Let them be mad. They chose to use your parking space without making sure they had your permission.
Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to totally avoid rude people
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@ronacruz2007 (650)
• Philippines
15 Aug 08
Upon reading your post cant help but laughed , not laughed at you but to all your neighbors; i mean hello, are they serious about what they are doing with your space? What are they thinking the space is a communal property that anyone and everyone can do anthing they want to your space, common. Better not to be so good at people or theyre gonna used you.
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
15 Aug 08
WE had our laughing moments too LOL
I have to be honest, if I"m asked and it's something that doesn't bother me, I don't mind allowing one thing or other, but this was just too much without even asking :)
THe fence and gate solved the problem though. Now they can solve their own problems regarding parking and opening of gates and a play place for the kids.
@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
15 Aug 08
luckily i havent encounter such situations..its a good thing that you had closed it..since for that your new neighbors will know what is boundary when regards to property...its a sad thing that people now a days have no respect for others feelings and take for granted all about it this...i suppose theyre young couples?
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
15 Aug 08
THe worse part of it, is that they are not exactly young couples... most of them are about our age. But it does show the general feeling of no boundaries that is becoming norm in our society. It goes for everything, people will stop at nothing to achieve what they want - being it using something it's not theirs to use, to advance at work, even in relationships - there is nothing sacred anymore LOL
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I can't say I've ever had a problem like this and I am very thankful because it sounds like you have a bunch of very rude neighbors - society today seems to think the world belongs to them and forget the rest of the world. A shame you had to change your property but I know others who would have been thinking, broken glass, nails, poison ivy - lots of things to make it undesierable for the neighbors to use their property (not me :( but other people)
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I would post it 'private property, all vehicles will be towed at owner's expense'. Put up several of these signs across that area, and when they park there, turn it into the police, they will in turn have the vehicle towed off your property, or they will be sited for parking on private property. I would not have a problem, and soon they would learn not to park their vehicles on someone elses property.
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
15 Aug 08
Well we leaped into action with the fence and gates so the signs ended up not being needed. I"m usually quite easy going. If it's not bothering me and people ask politely I will allow certain things within common sense of course. But when people feel there is not even a need to ask.. that get's me upset :)
@Wyldrose (1216)
• United States
14 Aug 08
Wow...what a mess! Is there any way you can post a private property sign there? Or resort to putting up a gate to keep them out? Maybe they could do something to enlarge their space a little bit so they can get in and out of their property. I have never had this problem, but if I did, I wouldn't just let it go, I'd take some sort of action. Sorry I can't give you any good advice on this...
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
14 Aug 08
We;re putting a gate. Actually hubby already started, that' s why now they are all getting upset, but without saying anything to us, because they know there is nothing to say :)
THe ones that need to enter our space to open their own gate don't need to do anything else but putting the bolt thingy to lock the gate lower, like we have on our other half of the back yard. That way they can reach it. WHy they would built it that way I have no idea, who builds something in such a way that it is needed to get into the neighbor property to be able to open it? LOL