Oh no.........I become a grandfather
By darksorrow
@darksorrow (4666)
Bangladesh
August 15, 2008 9:05am CST
I don't want to get old too early. I am too young to get old. It is supposed be a good news but for me it is not. I am just 23 years old & become a grandfather. I am feeling like a....cough cough.
My nephew is just 2 years younger than me & recently she gave birth to a child. It was a boy. Now she made me a grandfather.
I am feeling so shy. At the age like this i am going to compared with the grandfathers. How early i got promoted.
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@sunshine4 (8703)
• United States
15 Aug 08
You can settle down. The others are right, you are a great uncle, not a grandfather. When I read that you are 23 and a grandfather, I was thinink....wow he must have had a child at 12 and that child had a child at 11!!
It is great being a great Aunt....I am one and love it!!
Enjoy the time you can spend with the newest addition to your family. It is always wonderful to become close to all the children in the family.
@sunshine4 (8703)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Your tradition sounds wonderful. I love that you are so close with your family that you feel the children in your family are yours and you feel like a father to them.
Enjoy the new baby Gramps:)
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
15 Aug 08
LOL. I am a grandfather not a great uncle according to our tradition. Well i am happy for that addition because now i got someone to play with again. I know what you want to say about children. Because i already have 4. Not mine but my cousin's. We live close so i play with them.
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@Jessbowers (391)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Honey that does not make you a grandfather. A great uncle maybe. If it were your child having a child you would be a grandfather. Your nephew has a kid then that is your great nephew.Just think about for a minute and you will be ok.
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
15 Aug 08
It does not work like as you said in my country. I am a grandfather not a great uncle.
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@Jessbowers (391)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I understand now. Thank you for clearing that up for all of us.And congrats to you all on the new baby.
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
15 Aug 08
Thanks for that. All of us are going to have fun with the baby. Ahh my grandchild.
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
15 Aug 08
In my country it is different. We don't have a great uncle. We simply promoted to grandfathers. How sad
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
15 Aug 08
Can you explain just a little bit better - maybe you have not been promoted just yet.
Surely you can only be grandfather to your children's children?
You would be uncle to your nephew's children 8and if sheìs female then she's your neice )
So maybe your not as old as you feel yet - who had a child?
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
15 Aug 08
Oh I see it now!
One thing's for sure - I always be older than you but not old
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
15 Aug 08
My mistake. She is my niece. In my country according to our culture we don't differentiate in daughters & brothers daughters. So in that way i become a grandfather. But i am not old like you said.
Becoming a grandfather does not make me old. Because i have a long way to become old. I doubt i will ever be.
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@Linda4ualways (2282)
• United States
15 Aug 08
It's amazing how different countries view certain situations. Here in the United States, you would be considered a great uncle but in your country you are considered a grandfather which, by the way, I don't understand. However, new life is a blessing and whether you are a grandfather of great uncle, be happy and be blessed! Take care and God Bless!
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Aug 08
Everyone is right in what they are saying, you would be a great uncle and instead of nephew, it would be niece if she is a girl. Now if it is your nephew's (boy) wife, then she would still be your niece, well that is if they are married. If they are not, you do not have to claim her as family. You would be a great uncle, not a grandfather.
Hmm, I hope you get this sorted out!
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
15 Aug 08
I suppose that is good and bad depending on how you look at it. You are called a grandfather early but on the other hand you can play with your grand children. Your tradition sounds magnificent, it makes me feel as if the families are closer together in your country then in my own! Have a wonderful day!
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
15 Aug 08
We don't have the great uncle tradition. According to our tradition i am directly promoted to a grandfather.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
17 Aug 08
No, you are not a grandfather, you are a great uncle! I have known people whose great nephews and nieces are the same age as them (or younger). This can easily happen if one is the youngest in a family. By the time one is born, one's elder brother or sister is already a grandparent!
There was an article published in a London newspaper in 1822 which went as follows:
"A proof that a man may be his own Grandfather.—There was a widow and her daughter-in-law, and a man and his son. The widow married the son, and the daughter the old man; the widow was, therefore, mother to her husband's father, consequently grandmother to her own husband. They had a son, to whom she was great-grandmother; now, as the son of a great-grandmother must be either a grandfather or great-uncle, this boy was therefore his own grandfather. N. B. This was actually the case with a boy at a school in Norwich."
This story inspired a popular comedy song in 1948 about how someone became his own [step] grandfather!
The long and short of it is that you are always as old as you feel - and that is generally quite a bit younger than you really are!
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
17 Aug 08
Thanks for the story. It is a nice story.
But again i am a grandfather. In my country it is the tradition. We don't have the great uncle tradition.
It is the difference in cultures that is making me different. Many said that i am a great uncle but i have to clear that. The best part is that i did not know the great uncle thing. Thanks to this discussion now i know. Also i have got more ideas about other countries traditions.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
17 Aug 08
I see, from what you have written elsewhere, that the word that you (presumably) translate as 'grandfather' also means 'great uncle' and that there is no separate way of saying the relationship (without explaining in detail that the child is the son or daughter of your father's sister's child - even that could be difficult if you make no distinction between siblings and cousins!)
I am aware that this situation exists in many countries. It depends, really, on how important exact family relationships are in a particular society. In English speaking countries we have many more terms to describe relationships presumably because, at one time, it was necessary to know whether someone was your first cousin, second cousin (child of your parent's aunt or uncle) or third or fourth cousin, even. It often had a great bearing on how property was inherited, so it was important to know!
I expect that there are, conversely, distinctions that your language can make about things for which we have no separate words in English!
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
17 Aug 08
I don't mean to criticise your English, of course (which is very good) but when you say "My nephew is just 2 years younger than me & recently she gave birth to a child. It was a boy. Now she made me a grandfather." you show just how tricky it can be to translate from one language to another. Please don't be embarrased!
It looks as though you have one word which means 'nephew' (male) and 'niece' (female) and possibly other relationships as well, so 'nephew' may be the translation you find in a dictionary.
I would be interested to know just what words you have and use to describe relationships in your language. Do you have separate words (or variations) for male and female? Presumably you do for mother and father - most languages do, though we also have 'parent' and 'cousin' and 'sib[ling]' which can mean either. In English, 'aunt' can mean either the real sister of one of our parents OR the wife of the brother of one of our parents (and 'uncle' may have a similar meaning). It's also sometimes used more loosely to refer to anyone of our parent's generation who has taken a caring interest - a good friend of the family, for example, who is closer than usual. (Often people would add '... but she's not my real aunt.') Cousin almost always means first cousin (son or daughter of parent's sibling) but is sometimes used for second cousins. In earlier times it was often used for anyone of one's own age that one grew up with, whether they were blood-related or not. If you study Shakespeare or Jane Austen, you might need to know that! It used to be fairly common, too, for any older man to be called 'grandfather' or 'father' or 'uncle' as a term of respect rather than relationship. You don't hear that so much these days, sadly. It's either a sign that the idea of the nuclear family is disappearing or that there is less respect now for older people than there was. Either way, it's something lost.
@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
16 Aug 08
Hi grandpa,
Uuupps, chill! you are the coolest grand daddy in the world. Tho your grand child you still can dance break dance and climb coconut tree! YEAH you can do it!!!
Chill chill... its not a big deal , really
Happy posting!!!
xoxoxo'dian from bali island.
@diansinta (7544)
• Indonesia
18 Aug 08
I have a idea,.. how about beat your grand son playing playstation? that would be cooLLYou need to practice now
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
16 Aug 08
Grandpa
OK then i think i have to take dancing lesson.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
16 Aug 08
Impossible! You have become a grand-uncle. You must have sired a child to become a (grand)father. This is confirmed in geneology regardless of what honorary title you may have acquired.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
16 Aug 08
As I said genealogically it is impossible but any honorary title is possible.
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
16 Aug 08
In my country we do not have the option of becoming granduncle. We have the option of becoming a grandfather. So i have become a grand father.lol
@poohgal (6845)
• Singapore
16 Aug 08
I thought you are 23 and your child has a child. I was doing my calculation and thinking to myself it's impossible.
I don't think you can call yourself a grandfather. I think you are considered a Granduncle because it's your nephew who has a child (not your own child who has a child).
My oldest nephew is also only 1 year younger than me and thank Goodness he doesn't have a child yet. If not, I'll be a Grandaunt.
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
16 Aug 08
NO in my country we don't have grand uncle. We are directly promoted to grandfather. I hope the nephew of your have a child soon.LL
@mialei23 (2385)
• Philippines
18 Aug 08
Oh congratulations to your niece. your too young to called grandfather so I think you must tell your niece that when his baby have grown up and knows how to talk, better he will call you uncle..maybe that's better so you will not look that old.
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
18 Aug 08
Oh that's not going to happen. I told my niece to teach my grandchild to call me brother but neither she nor any member of my family is going to do that. They make fun of me. And told me when he can talk they will teach him to call me Dadu ( grandfather).
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@alori61 (344)
• United States
16 Aug 08
I really do feel for you and understand how you are feeling. I was married to a man that was a bit older then me. He had two children from a previous marriage that lived with us, his daughter was 8 years younger then me I became her step mother when she was 12. Five years later I gave birth to my first child. When my daughter was just two and a half months old my step daughter gave birth to her first child, so I became a mom and grandma at the age of 25. My stepdaughter has 4 children they all call me grandma Lori. When I was just 40 I became great-grandma Lori for the first time. Now that will make a body feel old. But I suppose had we lived in your country my third daughter who had a 4 year old neice when she was born would have been a grandma when she was only 11. Or does the promotion only happen on the male side? At anyrate if in your country you are promoted to grandpa from uncle then grandpa is not about being old. And look at it this way when you have your own children and they give birth you will have a ton of grandpa experience and be the coolest. Don't let the title get you down, it's only a word. You didn't magically grow old the day you became 'grandpa' your still 23 years old
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
16 Aug 08
OK so you were a grandmother on your age of 25. That's early. But not early as me. You gave me a new idea. That when i will be a grandfather of my own children then they will get better affection from me. Thank you for giving me this idea & sharing your story with me.
@liquorice (3887)
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16 Aug 08
Hey, just wanted to add to all the congratulations! I didn't know about the honorary grandparent tradition that you have, that's very interesting and really nice that you're all so close. It's lovely for the little baby as well, as he will potentially have sooooo many grandparents, lol! And no doubt so many people to love him, look after him and play with him. It sounds like everybody wins with this tradition
@liquorice (3887)
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16 Aug 08
Ah, I don't think a child can ever get too much love!
I think I would have been a bit confused as well if I hadn't read the other posts. But after I read about your tradition then I understood!
I hope you enjoy being a grandfather!
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
16 Aug 08
You are right. The children gets too much love from all of us. Because there are plenty of everyone who is there for that child. Thanks for underestimating that. I made a mistake that i forgot about others. So everyone is thinking that i am mistaking granduncle with grandfather.
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
17 Aug 08
I'm confused. Your nephew's child is your great nephew, not your grandchild. It might be possible for you to be a grandfather at your age. Let's say that you fathered a child at 11 or 12, and that child also fathered a child at that young age. That could make you a grandfather at your current age, but I'd say that this scenario is extremely unlikely.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
17 Aug 08
Well, in our culture a grandfather has a very special status and privileges. They can be a father all over again but without having to discipline the child; they can be as silly and childish as the child himself without losing any respect! As a result, I think, children can learn more from their grandparents than they do from anyone, including their parents.
If you are a grandfather then you have a responsibility - almost a duty - to become a child again!
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
17 Aug 08
It does not work like this as you said in my country. I am a grandfather now. According to our tradition we do not have the grand uncle title. We directly promoted to grandfather for that.
So it is allright.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
17 Aug 08
lol...it's very common at our place.
My son has an uncle who is a year older than he is and an aunt who is younger than he is!!! My aunt is the same age as I am....so, she is a 'grandmother' to my sons. Though my sons are cool with it (and so is she), her son doesn't like his mother being called 'grandma' by my kids.
think of it this way, you'll be considered the 'coolest' grandpa around...and your grand nephew is going to be so proud of his 'grandfather'!
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
28 Aug 08
That makes no sense. Isn't your niece's father the grandfather? Where do the parents of the new bay's parents fit in?
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
28 Aug 08
It is a bit confusing. From the thought of many other countries i am supposed to be a grand uncle. But in our culture i am the grandfather. We don't have the grand uncle tradition. I did not know about the grand uncle thing. Otherwise i would have included it in my discussion how i became a grandfather.
@gr8life (6251)
• Malaysia
18 Aug 08
Hello darksorrow,
*Laughs* Congratulations on your new status! Oh, yes! Congratulations on the birth of your grandson too! I understand how you feel. I was first being introduced to the world of 'auntie' when I was just 11. That time I felt like I was too young and I couldn't understand a thing. When my niece was born, I felt like she was just a normal playtime friend to me but in fact she is my first niece! When I get older, she is more like a friend. We go out together and enjoy our lives! Only after reaching 30, I understood the purpose of being an 'auntie' to them!
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
18 Aug 08
Well i was also become an uncle at the age of 11. You know i did before at the age of 2.lol. Then i was also happy for that i got someone to play with. That was not all after that i have become an uncle twice more.
It was not the end. You will understand why after a few while.
@zydecokitten (451)
• United States
17 Aug 08
Congratulations Grandfather. My postion on this is the same as the other posters. However, you have explained that in the culture that you live in, things are different. My question is that since things are different in your culture, there must be some accomodation to thinking regarding the age that people become "grandparents" since as in your case, you and your niece are almost the same age, therefore, in your mind, making you a grandfather makes you feel old.
There are many large families in the USA where the mother and the daughter give birth within short periods of time to one another so that the mother has a child and a grandchild about the same age. That makes the grandchild and her aunt or uncle approximately the same age. I have a friend who is in exactly this position. She told her mother that she was expecting, and two weeks later her mother told her that she was expecting.
Age is just a matter of mindset unless you are very ill and your body feels old. I hope you can enjoy this new family member. Good luck.
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
17 Aug 08
LOL. You gave a nice response. I really liked it. Also The last two lines were the best. I also think like you.
@apples99 (6556)
• United States
16 Aug 08
Dude your not a grandfather yet your son or dughter has to have a child in order for you to became a grandfather, lol.
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
16 Aug 08
No i am a grandfather. We do not need to have a child to be a grandfather. According to our tradition when our brothers or sisters or cousins children give birth we also are promote to grandfather.