Do you think age should be a factor when applying for work?
By rosedust82
@rosedust82 (2066)
Philippines
August 18, 2008 3:39pm CST
I'm focusing more on people who are actually too old to work for a certain job. There are some jobs that have age limits set. Do you think that this is fair? Let's say that the job limit for your dream job is 27 and you qualify for that job in all aspects EXCEPT with the age... You're (unfortunately) 28 already... So do you really think that's fair? What would you tell your interviewer if you get turned down because of the age limit? I personally think that age should not be a factor... As long as the person can actually do his or her job well without any problems, then I don't think that age should be a big thing... what do you guys think?
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@roysville (496)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
That has been my problem ever since I became unemployed at the age of 35. They were even polite enough to tell me that I am 'overqualified', although I know for a fact that it's the age factor. I think it's unfair and discriminatory. I believe this is only here in our country (Philippines), as people in other countries can get a work as long as they are still able and healthy.
@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
20 Aug 08
I'm sorry to hear that Roy... over qualified huh? That's really not fair... but hey.. welcome to our country. lol. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to find one soon.
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
19 Aug 08
roysville, it happens here in the US too. Companies are not supposed to discrimate against age, but they do. The "over qualified" thing comes up a bunch - especially if you're over 40.
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@roysville (496)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
thanks for that info, but I'm sure it's not as bad as it is here.
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@pink_bunny (324)
• Australia
19 Aug 08
Yes, it is very unfair. I know for a fact that that is the usual case in some countries (such as Philippines). I guess because of the very high unemployment rate, employers can actually afford to be picky, especially if the position is not considered highly technical. If you know that you're already way past the required age limit, I don't think you should still bother applying as you'll definitely will only get disappointed anyway. If you're already past the hiring age group, you'll probably be better off if you'll just try to start on something on your own, like a home business or something. Who knows, you might even surpass whatever you could have earned if you did get employed in the first place.
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@tinker_bel (297)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
i must agree with you. one must still think of ways on how she or he is going to support himself/herself especially in poor countries like the Philippines. in every situation one must always look at the positive side. Maybe the business that you are going to start is really your calling, who knows. Just never ever give up until you succeed.
@n30wing (4767)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
Your very right girl it's kind a disapointing that's why people rather go out of these country. They need a job to earn not only for their sake but their family. It's like they are useless here. Even me I can't understand it. As long the person can handle the work it is not the age that matters a lot It's the performance and doing the job well done. Have a nice day!
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@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
I know... Plus it's so difficult for people to find jobs that would actually pay well. Sad to see a lot of our people moving to other places in order to find better opportunities.
@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
Even though how one looks or how old an applicant is, if their skills are right for the job, they should get hired yet, that's not always the case. Most often, the employer has no choice but to choose those who would 'best' represent their company. Visually pleasing employees imply good and well equipped capabilities while those who don't look like it, even though if they are more competent than new comers, are ignored or deemed to be among those who have been 'left out' which is unfair.
That's why there are some jobs that inadvertently discriminates aspiring applicants due to requirements not being met yet, such requirements would either be just those that are superficial.
Some of the jobs that I think that anyone can grow old in but still be employed would be in teaching since, the higher the educational attainment the applicant has acquired, the more the school prefers to include to be among their faculty.
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@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
Very true. It's sad that there are a lot of employers who look at the physical aspect of a person instead of what they can do. And very true as well with what you wrote about jobs sometimes being superficial in the sense that people with looks, regardless if they have the capability or not to do the job are put into consideration first.
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@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
20 Aug 08
Yeah, it tends to turn out disappointing for those who still aspire for their dream jobs yet, end up not being fulfilled due to things like that.. resorting to comply with any job that they can get just to get by with daily expenses.
Employers would often think that older employees would contribute more risk hazards than productive output when it comes to work, aside from not being visually pleasing for the business. Then, there are cases that the applicant is really older than the ones being sought for the job opening but, being younger looking, gets exempted and claims the job after all.. Somehow unfair to a degree but, things like that happen.
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@jaffna (778)
• India
19 Aug 08
i have been put to this situation very recently and i hate that i missed ma job because of me being a year elder to others...i don't think this is fair and i can't take this..jobs must be offered for people who are really talented rather than age issues...
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@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
I'm sorry to hear that... Well, they lost a good talent by turning you down... Don't worry. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to find a better job somewhere else.
@beatrizguiselle (1118)
• Spain
19 Aug 08
Hello there.
Well i think it all depends on the position anyone is applying to. I live in spain, and at age 30 you're considered old alreay. but then again in the States you can work even if you're 60 or over, As long as you're fit for the job and have the experience I dont think age should matter...but then again it depends on the job.....Like I would freak out if i see a 60+ bouncer you know...
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@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
20 Aug 08
haha! I know... and I can just imagine!!! I had to laugh at that idea... A sixty year old bouncer... teehee...
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
19 Aug 08
I say all age discrimination - both the kind that says you're too ol d and that which says you're too young should be illegal all over not just in the United States. And even in the states, it goes on because no one takes employers to court over it even though it is unlawful.
I think as long as an individual can do the job and do it well they should get the same chance as others. You say you are focusing on those that are "too old to do work for a certain job" and I think you mean those who are unfairly disqualified from a job simply because of their age. Well I say, as it seems you do, that age doesn't define us. An older person can be as strong or stronger and their mental capacity, learning and experience could also outweigh that of a younger person.
By the same token, those who are disqualified because they are too young - but of age - could be just as responsible, intelligent, knowledgable about the job and even experienced as someone older.
So no I don't think age should be a big thing, I don't think we should be defined by our age. I after all, will be returning to school again and I'm 38, which means I will be entering my chosen profession late, although I worked in somewhat similar fields. Further, I can't be defined by my age in that I have a twenty months old.
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@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
20 Aug 08
Thanks for sharing artemis432... and by the way... you really have a cute baby... Congratulations on your new found job. I'm pretty sure you're doing an excellent job right there.
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
19 Aug 08
My newest profession is raising my child, something some would say I'm too old for, or at least to just be starting!
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
20 Aug 08
Thank you- love your mylot name!
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@kwenge (2487)
• Kenya
19 Aug 08
I dont think age should be an issue when applying for a job. Infact I think with age comes experience and thats where employers are getting it wrong. An older person might have been working in that field for many years than a younger person who is coming fresh from college hence less experienced. The age thing should be totally scrapped from the requirements.
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@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
20 Aug 08
And I wish they'd make a law against age discrimination here as well. Sigh.
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
20 Aug 08
Exactly. And even if its a physically demanding job, they are conditioned from doing the work for so long. Further, they are expeirenced enough to know how to use their bodies and muscles in a safe and efficient manner. And know the safety procedures to follow.
I'm so glad that the age thing is illegal here in the states!
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
19 Aug 08
I do not think that age should be a factor in employment. As long as you are capable of performing the duties of the job, you should be able to be hired for the position. I don't believe it is actually even legal in our country to place age limitations on employment.
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@iskayz (5420)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
Hi there!
I think age is an important factor in job requirements. But it also depends on what kind of job. If the job requires to much physical activity then companies will require age limit. But for just clerical works then maybe age won't be a requirement.
Unfortunately all jobs requires age limit. Companies always looks for fresh faces and young employees because of the fact maybe that they are more energetic than older ones. Young employees can also work longer years.
Ciao!
@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
19 Aug 08
In the US its illegal. Many older people - especially the example of those older then 28 are stronger then those who are younger, plus many will have more experience and knowledge about safety procedures as well as how to use their strength in a safe manner.
I'm so glad that age discrimination is illegal here in the states, as age doesn't define a person!
Have fun mylotting!
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
20 Aug 08
Must be hard for them to work so far from family. We are far from our family - but they're in another state - same country! Although he has some relatives in Asia....
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@iskayz (5420)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
Yeah its good in US that age isn't a requirement in finding work. We have family friends there whose still working but if compared here in my country, with our friend's age, they wouldn't be qualified.
I think thats the reason why many of my countrymen prefer to work in foreign countries. Having age limit as a job requirement also lessens the chance for good employment.
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@Valenas (1507)
• United States
18 Aug 08
I don't think that age should be a factor, but ability. If you are still able to perform up to the company's standards, then it is only fair that the company should hire you. A lot of elderly men and women need jobs still. If I were elderly, and if they gave me a fair shot and told me that I was not performing up to their standards, then I would understand why they would not hire me. If they turned me away, then I would be both hurt and angry. It's a form of discrimination.
@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
Uhuh.. I hear you on this. Same thing for elderly men and women. I mean a lot of them can still perform their job really well. I personally know someone who is 70 years old and is still very active with her job as president of a school. So I really don't think it's the age that should be the biggest factor in hiring someone. Thanks for sharing.
@zeny_zion (1283)
• Philippines
18 Aug 08
age, looks and what you know. you have to be good in your first interiew. you see, first impressions last. there are different kind of interviewer, some don mind the age or looks. some looks for what the applicant knows. the knowledge and the effort to work.
@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
definitely first impressions last. My friend applied for a job and she actually qualified in all aspects except the age. She's a year off.. that's why I made the discussion.
@valeria1 (2721)
• United States
19 Aug 08
If you visit Florida you will see that in USA age is not a problem regarding work. I think if I had a company and that is just an idea I would hire older people as the majority because they would not cause so much trouble as some young do. They do not have problems like kids, they already did that and many other things, they have more experience in some fiels, so I am pro of work does not matter in what age!
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@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
20 Aug 08
My uncle lives in Florida and he still gets to work there. I agree with you as well. If I were operating a company, I'd prefer older people as well since they aren't much of a problem.
@bamakelly (5191)
• United States
18 Aug 08
I don't think that age should be determined as a factor. I think it might go on in the work force but it seems like discrimination to me. Some employers might have an age group in mind for what they want in their place of business however different people of different age groups especially over forty can still be competent. They can be as competent as the younger generation with more experience.
As long as the person is able bodied and perform the task without problems then age shouldn't be a problem.
@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
Very true. In my opinion, as long as a person can actually perform the task well (or as expected by the employer) then he/she should get the job... especially if he/she qualified in all other aspects. Besides, the age difference is only a year.
@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
[i]It depends upon the kind of work.
If that work requires physical strength then
old people will be out of it.If it is only more
on paper works like in office then it is more
advantageous in the part of the old because of their
experienced.[/i]
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@artemis432 (7474)
• Abernathy, Texas
20 Aug 08
Although, since age doesn't define us, there are old people who are strong and in better physical shape then the young and experienced enough to knowhowto use their body in a safe manner and to follow safety procedures. By the same token, there are young people who are very knowledgable and expereinced in paper work. Which is why its very wrong to judge by age.
My uncle, who became a very successful engineer and started out his career carrying slabs of ice (in the years before refrigerators) to people... was in great shape even into his eighties. His muscles were still defined and his heart storng hewould walk a least a mile each day. So at sixty, I'm sure he could have done a physically demanding job of one or two younger men.
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@sassyangelee (340)
• Philippines
19 Aug 08
I for one doesn't like the idea that some of these company requires an age limit as per qualifications for their future employees. But it denotes the quality of works by finding the best applicants, because the company thinks that younger generations can performs the job well. I don't know how the Human Resources (HR)of the company comes to a conclusions thats these certain ages makes the best employees. Whatever their reasons, it is still unfair to some who can perform the job more than enough than there young employees.
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@allurejan (197)
• United States
19 Aug 08
There are companies that are particular with age limits. For me it is unfair. That is why there are lots of people who are jobless because of that. They should accept qualified people regardless of age for a job. Here in the USA, as long as you can do the job assigned to you, they will hire you.
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@lira23 (208)
• United States
19 Aug 08
I don't think that there should be an age limit,there should be an age limit to get work,which is like at 16 you can start here in the states, other than that there shouldn't be"Your too old to work" unless you have health problems like,you can't stand to long, or you can't see very well etc even with glasses some people can't see very well. Depends if its a medical condition then no.
@rosedust82 (2066)
• Philippines
20 Aug 08
Uhuh.... true... if there is an age limit, the applicant should either be too young or too old...