10 reasons for accepting Obamanation?
@bongkarpasang (1377)
Indonesia
August 20, 2008 9:29pm CST
Just this morning I found a page mentioning about "Obama's 10 reasons for supporting infant murder" which really shook me till the end.
http://almightywind.com/whatsnew/082008obamaabortion.html
so I made some googling to find the evidence of the article, and then I found it here:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59702
there are also bunch of posts talking a lot of related things about the man.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2063283/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2060017/posts
which really makes me shivering.
by the way, I also found something interesting in this page (scroll down to the statement "AMERICA'S LAST POLITICAL HOPE")
http://almightywind.com/
So what kind of future we will face? I'm coming from a country that has 'history' with Obama, but frankly, the man is frightening for me. America is a super power country, it would be a blind-person statement if I say that what will happen to America wouldn't impact the other nations.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 08
A woman has the right to choose. If we didn't have that right or any of our other rights than we might as well be called the United States of China. And, if McCain is elected we might as well be called the United States of Congo (the poorest country in the world).
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
21 Aug 08
Do you want a man who says that children are a burden and would let the infants who survived an abortion to die? What kind of person are you? We are talking about a new born. Do you not care about the couples who cannot have children? Have they been so evil that the only children they are allowed to adopt are older children who may be severely disabled? Choose does not mean choose abortion. It means choosing to give the baby up for adoption and allowing a baby that survived abortion to live.
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@bongkarpasang (1377)
• Indonesia
21 Aug 08
ZephyrSun,
you mean without the right to choose to abort, but what about the right to choose to keep the babies?
you mean United States of China? women in China don't have the right to give birth after they already have any first child, no matter what gender the child would be. there is no choice to keep the baby if you already have a child in China. even if any woman wants to keep their baby, the nation will force them to abort the babies. there is no choice to keep the baby, there is a must to kill the baby.
doesn't you understand that it would be the path where Obama is leading you all to?
is this what you want with Obamanation?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9766870
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=41208
http://journals.aol.com/tschuckman/OldSoldierTomsJournal/entries/2007/04/20/america-supports-chinas-forced-abortions/1454
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2136095.stm
pro-choice doesn't force abortion, I believe?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE4D8103AF936A1575BC0A964958260
if you want choices, you have the choice to give the babies away to those who want the babies.
why not giving the unwanted babies to those who long for babies but never got any child no matter how they tried to get one?
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 08
Thanks Eddie, Jill came into light so to speak since one of the right wing hate radio show's host brought her out, the only problem with it, all the stuff being copied and pasted all over mylot are wrong. I went to a site set up by the Catholic ministies and found out the truth, and yes I know that the Catholic site would be bias but sad to say they at least stated the truth about Jill and her testimony.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
21 Aug 08
I do not want America to be run by a man who would allow babies who survived an abortion to be thrown in a room with trash so that they would die. I mean there are couples who would dearly love and care for these infants. Why do not the nurses when they see the infant survive, call the adoption agency or have a list of couples who want children?
I do not know about the links, but this is just my opinion. A child hater like Obama should not be in the White House.
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@bongkarpasang (1377)
• Indonesia
21 Aug 08
this is what I fear when I read so many things of Obama related so-called future policies.
first he would say "give the choice to abort them".
but in the end, when he grabs what he wanted, he would be the one who proclaims "kill all of them within!"
am I wrong in reading the situation? I think that's what this man will lead to if Obamanation is running.
does any American realize where this so-called Obamanation pro-choice will lead to?
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@jend80 (2071)
• United Kingdom
21 Aug 08
I don't think anything found on a site that describes itself as being a "last chance ministry" and containing "endtime prophecys" "given" to an apparent Prophet that claims right on it's front page that attending "Sunday Churches" will make you recieve the mark of the beast , is likely to be the most reliable information to base your political opinion on.
also Free Republic is hardly an unbiased source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Republic
@bongkarpasang (1377)
• Indonesia
21 Aug 08
jend80,
are you reading the situation? let's me share what I thought when I read his statements on "give the right to abort".
first he would say "give the right to choice to abort them".
but in the end, when he grabs what he wanted, he would be the one who proclaims "kill all of them within!"
am I wrong in reading the situation?
I think that's what this man will lead to if Obamanation is running.
just read my respond to the first comment, all the situations in China, don't you think it would happen with Obama's on the stage?
what would happen to the future generation of America?
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
22 Aug 08
Hello Bongkarpasang,
Abortion is the single most divisive issue we face in the USA. It has been for for going on forty years. The volume of the debate took a drastic shift upward last year when our Supreme Court upheld a lower court ruling limiting late-term, trimester abortions.
Yet, that is not what we're talking about here. Senator Obama's votes and public statements prior to and after those votes have nothing to do with a woman's right to choose. Once the fetus is delivered alive and severed from the umbilical cord, there can be no question that he or she is a living, breathing Human Being -- deserving of no less of the Human Rights protections as any other living, breathing Human Being!
I have very carefully read the documented committee and floor vote statements by Sen. Obama, as part of his 2001, 2002, and 2003 efforts to deny life-saving medical care to live birth, botched abortion babies.
Sen. Obama voted and is quoted as far more extreme than the lobby groups, Planned Parenthood or NARAL (the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League). Neither P.P. nor NARAL supported the denial of life-saving medical care to the infants in question.
Below is the Jill Stanek text and link where Stanek comprehensively links to the Illinois Legislative record as it relates to the 2001, 2002, and 2003 efforts in this regard.
http://www.jillstanek.com...
[i]"The cornerstone bill was the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which defined legal personhood. This definition was identical to the federal BAIPA which was drafted from the definition of "live birth" created by the World Health Organization in 1950 and adopted by the United Nations in 1955....
Here I will only post links to Obama's actions and votes on the cornerstone bill, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. The bill number changed every year it was reintroduced.
2001
Senate Bill 1095, Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Go here to view Obama's "no" vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 28, 2001.
Transcript of Obama's verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor, March 30, 2001, pages 84-90
Obama's "present" vote on the IL Senate floor, March 30, 2001
2002
Senate Bill 1662, Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Go here to view Obama's "no" vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 6, 2002. (ABC inadvertently coped bill #1663, a companion bill. The vote for the Born Alive bill, #1662, was identical.)
Transcript of Obama's verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor, April 4, 2002, pages 28-35
Obama's "no" vote on the IL Senate floor, April 4, 2002
2003
Senate Bill 1082, Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Democrats took control of the IL Senate with the 2002 elections. They sent Born Alive to the infamously liberal Health & Human Services Committee, chaired by Barack Obama.
As can be seen on the Actions docket, Obama held Born Alive on March 6, 2003, from even being voted on in committee. It is also important to note from the docket that on March 13, 2003, Obama stopped the senate sponsor from adding the lately discussed clarification paragraph from the federal BAIPA, to make the bills absolutely identical." [/i]
Sen. Obama's exact words were:
"Viability is the line that has been drawn by the Supreme Court to determine whether or not an abortion can or cannot take place. And, if we're placing a burden on the doctor that says that you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as possible, and give them as much medical attention as -- as is necessary to try to keep the child alive, then we're probably crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality."