Where is all the Bitterness and Division?

"Allen something or other" Probably Alan colms, he's a liberal. and because a ceo just runs a company, a job, something we can quit and move on from, a president runs the country and unless we pack up and moce abroad, we're stuck with them for at least 4 years.

"Lots" of liberals on Fox? Name a few! Zephyr, I agree, we shouldn't ask what religion any candidate is, it should not concern us. Annie

Oh, and by the way....*whipsers*, there are lots of liberals on fox, and it is ok to watch it, I promise, I won't tell anyone.

Oh, I don't know. I didn't have patiance to sit through all of this convention either, but there have been some fascinating little tidbits. Cheney was supposed to be at RNC too but now they say he'll be visiting Georgia (the shady old man being mysterious again)...even though -he- said he WAS going to the RNC. Maybe he's shy? It might be less off a suck-up-fest than it might be a hate-fest. In which case, I'll be giggling for long after its over. Still, O_O probably alot of old fuddy duddies there, huh? Might be interesting to see them all in the same place, milling around. To see what they all say.

Do you REALLY think there will be anything REALLY interesting about the RNC? I mean, I know Bush is speaking, on Labor Day no less when everyone will either still be barbecuing or will be drunk from partying all day, and of course McCain will speak on Thursday and whoever he chooses as VP will be in there somewhere but I don't think there are any terrific speakers among the lineup I've seen so far. I have a feeling it will be a real love-fest "let's suck up to the war hero POW" event with lots of accusations about the Democrats hating America and wanting to lose the Iraq war and give handouts to the lazy poor folks. I'll be watching just the same, by the way...lol! Annie

I think the media did everything they could to dig up disgruntled Hillary supporters to show all kinds of division within the party. All of the rumors I've read here about Hillary running as an independent or of things really coming to a head on the convention floor with Hillary and her supporters refusing to let Obama have the nomination, I knew they were all a bunch of BS. I know there are plenty of people who don't like Hillary; OK, there are lots of people who vehemently HATE Hillary so they'll go to any length to attack her and paint here as the most evil person ever born. However, like her or not, there's no denying she's a very intelligent woman and that she loves her country and genuinely cares about the causes she's worked on for all these years. Some will say it's all for selfish reasons, to make a name for herself, but while I don't claim to be a mind-reader I think she really cares about children, the sick and the elderly. I have no doubt she's passionate abut women's issues which I'm sure is one reason she had so many female supporters and if there's any Senator that hasn't been good for women's issues it's McCain so the very idea of Hillary supporters voting for McCain goes against any common sense. I'm glad both the Clinton's were so supportive of Obama/Biden because Bill was good for the country and I don't care who tries to argue against that. All politicians love to accuse each other of being "out of touch" or not "one of us" but everyone I know who is at all like me thought life during the Clinton years were better than life during these past 8 years under Bush. Annie

I agree, worldwise1, I thought it was a very successful and very emotional convention. I know that's going to bring some criticism from the right because people like Rush Limbaugh love to make fun of anyone who shows their "feelings", as if it were a horrible sign of weakness to be emotional at a time when history is being made. I knew in my heart neither of the Clinton's were about to do anything to jeopardize the Democrats' chance at taking back the White House this year and they sure didn't let me down! They went above and beyond, in my opinion. Annie

It was a great coming-together, anniepa, and the Clintons are truly a class act!

You know what, I hope McCain does pick Lieberman because that will be yet another example of his hypocrisy since he's said in the past his VP must be anti-choice. Of course, he's since backed down from that and I don't think it went over very well with the far right wing of his party. Lieberman will cost McCain a lot of votes from the GOP because of his liberal views on some social issues while also preventing him from picking up some Democrats and Independents because he's much too close to Bush and McCain on the Iraq War. Incidentally, I heard McCain has chosen his running mate and will announce it tomorrow. It's really a shame but I can't think of any VP choice that will help him. I'm lovin' it! Annie

Never apologize for the way you feel, you have every right to your opinion and it doesn't matter what anyone else says or thinks, it's YOUR opinion. I'm glad to read you'll likely support Obama because a McCain Presidency scares the sh1t out of me! I'll get attacked for stating that opinion here but what do I care...lol? I know there were a lot of people who were really totally loyal to Hillary and many worked very hard for her and my heart goes out to them, it really does. Any other time she'd have been a shoo-in but as it turned out Obama also came onto the scene at the same time and there was obviously something about him that really energized the young people like nobody before him since Bobby Kennedy when I was still in high school. There really are a lot of parallels between the two and they have nothing to do with race. When bobby was seeking the nomination there was an unpopular war going on that was especially unpopular among the young people and like Obama did this year he was the one in 1968 that struck a chord with the young who went out and even got their parent converted. I wasn't old enough to vote that year but I actually got my father, a very serious political junkie of his time, to decide to vote for Bobby Kennedy. I was so proud to have my dad tell me that he'd changed his mind because of things I'd said! Sadly, it didn't matter since Bobby was assassinated a short time later. No matter what happens in this election, I'm sure not counting Hillary out for the future. Even if she never becomes President - which I'm not counting that out either - she's going to make a huge mark on our nation's politics and on many people's lives. She already has, but she's far from finished! They talked about Ted Kennedy a great deal when he was diagnosed with brain cancer and then again when he made his incredible appearance at the convention the other night, and they spoke of his failed attempt in 1980 at the nomination but they said it could well be that he actually made more of an impact on history as a very effective Senator for all the years since that run for the Presidency, probably more than he'd have made even if he'd had a very successful President for four or eight years. I know I post this at my own risk because there are those who don't like Ted Kennedy, but love him or hate him it can't be denied he's quite passionate about what he believes in and has be a champion for the poor and the working class throughout his career. I think even if the Senate is as high as Hillary ever gets - which I seriously doubt will be the case - she will make her mark! Annie

"Ask the 30% of Hillary supporters that will vote for McCain in November" rofl, what shameless lying. Face it; the charade has been broken. This "rift" the right-wing's been pretending exists? It's not there. Smoke and mirrors. The Democrats are all behind their candidate, and you have leaders of so-called "PUMA" groups admitted to having donated hundreds of dollars to McCain in the past. The jig is up, and Dems are not amused. Game on.

Rose, Maybe you should find a new preacher one that reminds you often not to pass judgment onto others since it's God's job not yours.

Hey, there's a first time for everything I guess...lol! Annie

Haha! Maybe! I dunno how green it really is, they're saying, "NO BIKES"...'cause apparently bikes are a security threat..O_o Not sure how much greener a mode of transportation can be, than a bicycle (unless you count your feet).

And with all the special effects and such inside, the electricity alone makes Al Gore's house look tame.