would you give a birthday gift to the person you like but doesn't like you?
By secretbear
@secretbear (19448)
Philippines
August 30, 2008 10:24pm CST
today is the birthday of the guy that i like so much, and as many of you might remember, he doesn't feel the same way about me. ^__^ but still, i feel like giving him a little nice gift for him to remember me by. i have given him a Spongebob towel before (he likes Spongebob) but there wasn't any occasion then, and now, there's a more special reason to give him a gift. although i am having second thoughts since... "why would i give him a gift? it wouldn't change what he feels toward me anyway." something like that. ^__^;;
would you give a birthday gift to a person you like but doesn't like you back? have you given a gift to someone you like but doesn't feel the same way about you?
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@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
31 Aug 08
I have done that a number of times, giving gifts to those who obviously can't or consciously wouldn't reciprocate whatever it was that I felt for them... well, that all ended after graduating high school but, it still nice to read someone's cluelessness with such matters but, now tone them into something comical so that not only I could laugh about it but, others could, well if they could find humor in it as much as ridiculing oneself first before criticizing others for what they have done.
You would only give or do something for someone else for one specific reason which can be interpreted in many different ways as much as one would like to interpret anything and parallel them into something coherent and slightly unlikely to be refuted once founded with a compelling argument: self gratification.
You do kind gestures to them knowing that you feel good about doing nice things to others, subconsciously expecting the same kind of gesture later on from those whom you have given things or aid that they either needed or wanted. Feeling nice would often be enough for others while some consider it as an investment but, in a discreet way. Helping others make you happy and those that you help are also alleviated from anything that you have helped them from which in turn also makes them happy. Everyone is happy.
Now, when it comes to gifts, it now depends on what you imply on giving. Perhaps to fortify the current relationship which you two are in? Intentions however are still dependent on how the other party would appreciate the given item, then again, if they accept it all. Gifts being accepted may imply that you are still recognized or, if wishful thinking is predominant, you are very much acknowledged. If its not even accepted, you can pretty much get the idea on how they value your existence.
Now, aside from the act of giving, the item being given also stands on its own meanings and implications. That is often the problem with giving gifts... especially when you don't know what the recipient likes to get..
Well, I have prattled long enough.. I'd just give a gift to that person. Their birthdays are enough reason to give presents and they are somehow socially obligated to accept gifts, of course they are still free to choose to deny anything given to them, even if its their birthday. Birthdays just conceals intentions and excuses expectations. They don't like me, well I like them.. they can't do anything about that, don't they?
So much so with the gifts that I'd be giving to them. Its upon their disposal whatever they might want to do with the gift that I have given.. Give it away to others or throw it out.. a gift's a gift. One shouldn't be attached to the fruits of their labor in situations like that 'cause if they do, it means that they still have expectations even though they are aware that their affections wouldn't be reciprocated by those that they like but don't like them back.. (-_-")
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Sep 08
i am actually laughing while i was reading your response! *peace* and then i told myself, here is the statement of someone who has a lot of experience with this kind of thing. *peace again* ^__~ but i must say, you do make a solid point and strong sense there sir. i must agree, people do kind things to others unconsciously expecting for something in return in the future. yes, good deeds are investments. supposed to be for our fate in the after life. but at times, those are investments for us to use in the future while we are still living. its kinda shameful but its human nature. its even stated in the golden rule, do not do unto others what you don't want to do unto you. you reap what you sow. so we can't be blamed for that.
anyway, going back, now i don't know know what to say exactly. ^__^;; i do give gifts to guy friends but only during Christmas and not during their birthdays. so you would see what idea or impression this act would create to others especially to him. still, i want to give him something for him to remember me by always. something he can use everyday. not very special and flashy gift. would you be kind enough to make a suggestion sir??
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
well yeah, i am the one close and familiar with him. that's why its hard to think of a gift! its because his interests are so general. like watching movies, sports. i do know he likes Spongebob but i've given him a Spongebob towel before (it was easier for me then to give him a gift because there's only a few people then who knows i like him and we were teammates in volleyball and the gift was a practical gift). i mean, movies and sports are too general interests. what can i possibly give him that is sports-related or movie-related?
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@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
1 Sep 08
I see that while you were laughingly agreeing with what I have said, you even simplified what I have stated in better and simpler terms. Be them philosophical or innately from natural behavior that we often take for granted or not really think about when we toil in the things we do in our daily existence, you only blame if there is fault and their is fault when one's actions is considered wrong by not only the one who enacted it but, to others as well.
So you look at birthdays more personal compared to any holiday. If you are clear with your intentions, it doesn't matter what ideas or impressions this self gratification would create to others, more so to him. Continue with what you want to give as something that would remind him of you which could be something he can use everyday.
If I knew what that person familiarly does, I'd have a good idea on what to give but, since your the one who does know that person, your the one who should be having that good idea. (^_^")
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@kun2349 (23381)
• Singapore
31 Aug 08
LOL =D ARe u still thinking about him and still harbouring the thought that he might have a change of heart to u?? hehe
If u still take him as a fren, there's nothing wrong in giving him a birthday present, provided that u are doing the same for all your frenz too, so that he wun feel unique and can act cocky in front of u again ^_^
As for me, i always give gifts to those ple that i like but they dun feel any for me.. lol =D and the ending is always the same, with nothing happening.. lol
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Sep 08
you got me there kun. i will admit it. yes, there is still this little flicker of hope inside my heart that he might have a change of heart. its embarrassing but i cannot deny it to you! ^__^;; and i still don't take him as a friend. i still take him as the guy i like.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
yes! girls are like that when it comes to love. takes a long time to forget. or until someone better comes along. yeah. you're right. but hey, i am really trying to get over him. i restrain myself from chatting with him, from seeing him. i just want to give him a gift so he can remember me in the future, that there's one secretbear who fell for him, once he went abroad.
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@kun2349 (23381)
• Singapore
1 Sep 08
lol =D Looks like i din know u for 1 yr, in vain.. lol =D
Gals will be gals and when it comes to relationship tyoe of things, gals are much more sentimental and they dun forget easily till there someone better whom comes along ^_^ hehe
TO gals, every guys will be special in their own ways and they can melt your heart and make it flicker in every little way they can.. lol
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@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
31 Aug 08
Don't keep it a secret, let it out!
Give him a really special gift and he might just be touched! Men are not all tough. In fact, given the right circumstance, we are all softies inside LOL.
Then again you have to decide for yourself... some guys like girls who play hard to get so if you "give yourself" to him too easily, he might simply take you for granted.
Good luck!
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
thanks for the encouragement lordwarwizard. if he was a tough guy, i think it would have been easier to give him a gift. but he is the guy who likes to "play" games. and his ego swells a lot if he learns that someone likes him. and i made the mistake of inflating his ego before when i told him i like him. unfortunately, no matter how he behaved stupidly, i still like him. ^__^;;
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
3 Sep 08
i am doing that actually. after those embarrassing moments, things i did that show i like him a lot, i lie low. i restrained myself from seeing him, going to places that i might see him, chatting with him, talking to him. but i still chat and talk with him once in a while only it would be chit chats and not long chat and talk so it wouldn't be too obvious that i am avoiding him. but i just couldn't let his birthday pass without me doing or giving anything. i still haven't gave anything yet. i'm still hesitant.
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@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
2 Sep 08
Oh gosh, you chose a challenging guy to love.
Now now, I am beginning to think that playing hard to get might work better on him. Good luck!
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@austere (2812)
• Philippines
31 Aug 08
well..i would. just to say thank you for the freindship. you dont have to put malice on that gift. it's his birthday and you give presents during birthdays righto you have all the reason to give him a present. you cannot do that in an ordinary day, so better do it on his birthday. just dont expect anything in return. dont even expect a thank you from him so you wont get disappoined if he doesnt say thank you.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Sep 08
one reason why i want to give him a gift is because i want him to remember me when the time comes that we won't be seeing each others again. he'll be working abroad you see. but i think you're right. i shouldn't put malice on it. but i'm sure other people would put malice over it! lots of them are teasing us after all.
@austere (2812)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
well, then, it's there should be no problem why you should give him a gift. if that's something you want to give him as a remembrance or a souvenir, then he will appreciate that. just a small gift that would me good luck to all his endeavors and take care wherever he will be going.. so do it girl.. you can do it!
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
14 Sep 08
thanks austere. i already did. bought him a t-shirt. it was a very late gift and i forgot to write "belated happy birthday" to the card so he was asking why i gave him a tee-shirt. ^__^;;
@albertxiaoyu (15)
• China
31 Aug 08
In my opinion ,I think there is nothing wrong sending a gift to somebody doer not like you .You just do it on your own feeling.Nobody can stop you doing something to get your own lover.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Sep 08
there's really nothing wrong with it. but people's reaction would give meaning to it.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
i'm way past that. i think. i have tried my best before to make him like me but to no avail. but i think i haven't given up. i'm giving him a gift not only to make him think of me but also in the hope that he might like me too in the future. i know nothing good will happen if i always think of what others might say but i just can't simply avoid it.
@albertxiaoyu (15)
• China
2 Sep 08
Yet,there are some actions you will get for sure .But that doesn't mean you can stop sending flowers to he or her,surely you should try you best to do something to get his or her heart.No pains no gain,it is a simple rule staying in many fields .Actions? Somebody's actions? They are just giving you some meanings,but they don't help you gain something you want.
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@m_sm1982 (31)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
hi girl, well, if I like the guy so much I think there's nothing wrong if I give him gifts on special event like that. I will never think that I'll spend money for him because I love him and I'm head over heels of him. But, it's a gift from a friend who treasured him so much. Don't think that he might be thinking negative things towards you as long as it's a way of expressing your feelings.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
3 Sep 08
hi m_sm! that's the problem with me. i think of the negative things the gift might do so until now, i haven't bought any. ^__^;;
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
14 Sep 08
you're right. there's nothing wrong with it. we are not hurting anyone with it. its just that in our conservative society, people are so judgmental especially on women. its hard to fight it especially if the guy doesn't like me back.
@Shaun72 (15959)
• Palatka, Florida
31 Aug 08
I have in the past gave a ex boyfriend of mine a Christmas gift. Which was kind of stupid of me since he was engaged to get married. Of course he bought me something also which was really nice of him.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Sep 08
hi shaun! well that's not really embarrassing since he gave you a gift too. i am hesitant in giving the guy a birthday gift because he might laugh at me secretly for being head over heels over him. ^__^;;
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
right. there's always other possibilities. but its scary to look at the positive possibility. i might get disappointed.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
i wasn't really expecting for something in return. i actually kinda felt bad because he gave me a keychain gift in return. i would have preferred if he didn't.
@grecychunny26 (9483)
• Philippines
20 Sep 08
Me honestly if I like someone I give a gift to them even if there is no special occasion but it will be different if that person is the person I like. I will be really shy to give it or to handed it over. I feel the guilt, much more because I am a woman and we are not into this kind of routine, you know what I mean. But talking being true to ourselves,why not give it a try, this can make both parties happy anyway. Still give me the updates, I am still gigling over your story. It has an episode every discussion and I am enjoying this a lot.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
hi grecy! i'm glad you are having fun reading about my lovelife. ^__^;; at least you are not sad for me. i don't want people to be sad of me because i already am sad for myself but i'm happy too to have this kind of feeling. ^__~ i still haven't seen him wear the shirt i gave him but its fine with me. we chat once in a while over ym but i really don't see much of him since i kinda of avoiding places where i might see him. ^__^;;
@poohgal (6845)
• Singapore
3 Sep 08
It's interesting to hear that he likes SpongeBob.
It really depends on the character of the guy. If I remember correctly, it seems like this guy give you the wrong impression sometimes. If that's the case, if I were you, I would not give him a gift.
However, it's really up to you. It has been 4 days so did you give him anything?
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
14 Sep 08
i was amused when i learned the first time that he likes Spongebob. it was a coincidence because i like Spongebob too. ^__~ yep, i gave him a tee-shirt. i just hope he takes it as a belated gift from a friend and not from a girl who likes him.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
14 Sep 08
thanks for the response john. although i wouldn't want to expect something like that after giving a gift. it hurts to get disappointed.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
then i should be thankful that he didn't refuse the gift. he accepted it. ^__^
@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Aug 08
hi secret bear nope I found I just could not give
a gift to someone who really detests me, as I would
'feel like a hypocrite knowing that this lady detests
me thoroughly. I would like to have my gift be a bit
acknowledged not thrown down in disgust.She was jealous
of me as I was thought of pretty highly in my workplace]
our local library, and it was all so unessisary for her
to feel that way. We all liked her and our manager praised
her for her work. but she did not like me at all. That
made me feel bad but also because she was a backbiter it]
made me feel rather angry too.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
hi hatley! ah! but you have a different case! i would understand if you wouldn't want to give that mean lady a gift. she doesn't deserve any gifts! anyone who doesn't know how to appreciate things given to them doesn't deserve to be given anything.
yes lordwarwizard. i like the guy. sige, ipagdiinan mo pa.
@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
31 Aug 08
But Patsie, secretbear loves that guy so that's what important.
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@julian1179 (41)
• United States
31 Aug 08
give him a present, if you truly like him, then you wont care wether he likes you or not, you'll just want him to be happy =Þ
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Sep 08
awww.. that's the ideal thing to do and to think. i truly like him but i don't want to be laughed at too. i have lots of pride in me and giving him a gift is like admitting to him and to whomever would know about the gift that i am head over heels with this guy and i'm hopeless and i just can't bear the thought that people might pity me or laugh at me.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
2 Sep 08
act naturally? now that's hard to do. i always get shy whenever i'm near him. ^__^;; i can't even talk casually. and oh no, i don't give heart chocolates! not even if its Valentine's day. i've never done that.
@julian1179 (41)
• United States
2 Sep 08
well, act naturally, even though you think everybody will now, they probably wont, just try not to blush and give him a normal present, not something that could be like a heart or valenteins day gift.
belive me, it's emberrasing, but it'll show him you care and that you don't care if anybody else laughs at you for loving him.
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@warrior_777 (1392)
• Philippines
16 Sep 08
You can give him his birthday gifts since you've done it before even without occasion.. If that's what your hearth wants go for it.. Maybe his not that stupid enough to see how BIG your LOVE for him...
Good Luck...
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
he is stupid enough or just playing dumb. ^__^;; he still asked why i gave him a gift. isn't it obvious??
@carolbee (16230)
• United States
9 Sep 08
I would not give a gift to someone who doesn't like me unless a party was being given by another friend in honor of his birthday. I'd be afraid I was trying to force my way into his life and getting no place fast. Wouldn't want to be forward.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
that's what i thought too! it would feel like i'm forcing my way into his life. forcing him to notice me. but i erased that thought and gave him a gift anyway. ^__^;;
@gr8life (6251)
• Malaysia
7 Sep 08
Hello secretbear,
You don't have to think negatively. You still can buy him a gift for his birthday - just as a friend. You give a birthday present to your ordinary friends, don't you? So, just buy a gift for him though he is not that special anymore. I understand how you feel - it is like there is no point for giving him anything on his birthday since he doesn't really like you as you like him. I had a best friend before whom I thought of liking me more than a friend (and I liked him more too ) but we never revealed each other feelings till the end but I gave him a special gift for his birthday each and every year and he treated me for special dine-out whenever it is my birthday. Well, you don't lose anything but alas! You lost some money to buy gift!
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
yeah. i lost money but i was happy with it. ^__~ i actually feel like buying another t-shirt whenever i go to the men's section of a department store. ^__^;;
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@ketybhagat (4123)
• India
10 Sep 08
If i feel that I am an unwelcome visitor to a place or to a persons feelings, i would back off, much as I would like that person. There is no sense in spoiling his birthday even with all good intentions. Always go where you are loved and welcome, never otherwise, so the question of giving a gift does not arise.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
hi kethy! i do hope i am not an unwelcome person in his life. i'm slowly trying to accept that we could only be friends, just as how he only wants it.
@koharukusumi (1539)
• Malaysia
14 Sep 08
Hey there, I will never give a gift but I will wish them a happy birthday. I have a friend who is like you. She gives gifts to these guy she terribly likes altho the guy never liked her. I think a wish is enough because sometimes the guy might get annoyed with you but if he is a very nice guy then he will say thanks and appreciate it. ^^
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
then he's probably nice because he said thank you and gave me a keychain as a return gift.