Who's Not Qualified?

@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
September 2, 2008 2:06pm CST
Let me get this straight, the three year Senator Barack Obama is qualified to be the President of the United States, but the two year Governor Sarah Palin is unqualified to be the Vice President of the United States. Yet people here on MyLot and in the MSM are willing to make the argument. Yes Governor Sarah Palin does not have any foreign policy experience, but neither does Obama. Obama is the one than is running for President not Palin, folks. Let us compare Obama experience to Palins from 1996 to present and I ask you who is more qualified. In 1996 Palin was elected as Mayor of Wasilla a town that has a budget of $6 million budget and a staff of 80 city employees. In 1996 Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate which he presided over nothing except a vote. In 2003 Palin became the Ethics Commissioner to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. She successfully rooted out republican corruption, but when other republican commission members sided with the status quo, rather then “go along to get along.” In 2004 Obama became the Senator of Illinois and go along to get along Democrat vote. In 2006 Sarah Palin became Governor of Alaska and presides over a $6.6 billion budget and a couple of thousand state employees. To this day Obama still has not presided over anything except a vote. So once again who is not qualified to be the Chief Executive of the USA?
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
2 Sep 08
I'm not too crazy about this particular spin so let's put some of these early things into a little bit of perspective. In 1996 Palin was elected as Mayor of Wasilla a town that has a budget of $6 million budget and a staff of 80 city employees. I work for a company with a little less than 70 employees and our fiscal year budget for all departments for 2008 totals just over $10 million. Six million for an entire town indicates a very small town. In 1996 Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate which he presided over nothing except a vote. Did Obama not exist before 1996? Why overlook his service to the residents of Chicago before he was elected? I keep seeing these same issues posted again and again. Palin is an executive, we get it. Obama, McCain and Biden are politicians. Got that, too. If Obama's contributions as a senator aren't valid how can McCain's be? I'm having a very hard time on this fence and it's starting to get old real fast. If someone wants to promote Sarah Palin, give the people what they want to hear, not the same old same old. Personally, I want more from a vice presidential candidate than "she took on" this and "she's a maverick" and, oh by the way, "She's a woman". I want to know if she has any plans/ideas on a national level, that she has some common sense, some tact, some understanding of diplomacy, some understanding of the issues that are facing the American public and that she's not going to be spending all her time looking for corruption under every nook and cranny.
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@4magoo (396)
2 Sep 08
very well put... are you running for office... I'll vote for you.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
2 Sep 08
I started at 96 because that is when their political careers began, so in the political world neither Palin nor Obama existed before 96. Really before 96 what really was there, Obama a lawyer and Palin a PTA mom. My point is not is Palin better than Obama my point is if Palin is not qualified then neither is Obama. Now for who you will fall off the fence for is not my issue here just to defend Palin from attacks that she is not qualified to be McCain's VP.
• United States
2 Sep 08
I would respond to this discussion, but Spalladino did it better than I could!!
@4magoo (396)
2 Sep 08
Your point is taken but lets compare a few other things: 1. Palin's Bachelor's degree from Idaho versus Obama's doctorate from Harvard Law. 2. Palin has hired herself an attorney to defend herself against TrooperGate 3. Plain's name is being mentioned in the probe on Rep. Sen. Ted Stevens 4. Did you know that Palin was at first in "favor" of the Bridge to Nowhere. Also the money was not given back. It was kept by her and used for other projects. There is still 60 million of it in their coffers. 5. I am not exactly sure how much "pork" goes to Alaska but a few years back Alaska was getting 30 times the national average and for a state with a relatively small population, that isn't "hay." For now, lets see what happens over the next few days. People are just starting to look into her background. If anything really bad comes out, it could sink McCain as it will be telling the world that his judgement wasn't very good as he goes about picking someone who is a heart beat from the presidency. The convention should be quite interesting.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
2 Sep 08
I cannot stop laughing that you think Obama having a doctorate from Harvard Law makes him more qualified than Palin's Bachelor's degree from Idaho. If you did not think so then why did you add it. In my humblest opinion give me some one from Idaho than Harvard any day. Last time I check George Washington and Abraham Lincoln did not even go to College. Now are you telling me that because these two did not go to Harvard they were not qualified. The late Sam Walton, founder of Wal-Mart only had a Bachelor's degree from the University of Missouri. Name me that last captine of society that graduated from Harvard. Harvard is the most over rated university out there. A plumber will make more money than a lawyer from Harvard will, so right there should tell you what what a lawyer from Harvard actually matters to society. After dealing with such an psudo-elitist comment I will try my best to address the rest. So what she has a lawyer, why would not she. Are you saying she should not defend herself, and the office the she hold. Wait just a minute I am not waisting anymore of my time with you, your whole response is just one hugh attack job against Gov. Sarah Palin. At the begin you said let us compare a few thing, okay please fell free at any time to start comparing anything except attacking Palin.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 Sep 08
"1. Palin's Bachelor's degree from Idaho versus Obama's doctorate from Harvard Law." I don't think their respective degrees make either of them more or less qualified. I think the colleges themselves are completely meaningless. Bush has an MBA from Harvard and has horrible approval ratings. Woodrow Wilson was the only president to ever have a doctorate and he was one of the worst, allowing the country to flounder and accomplish nothing during The Great Depression. "2. Palin has hired herself an attorney to defend herself against TrooperGate" She was in no hurry to do this. In fact, she seemed more than ready to handle the whole thing herself before she was chosen as VP. Perhaps she decided she needs to spend more time campaigning and it's best to let a lawyer take care of it. "3. Plain's name is being mentioned in the probe on Rep. Sen. Ted Stevens" He's a senator in her state. Any governor would be mentioned in a probe on a senator in their own state. The mere mention of her name doesn't amount to anything. "4. Did you know that Palin was at first in "favor" of the Bridge to Nowhere." I think everyone knows that now. As I see it she realized it wasn't going to be a successful program and that the money could be better spent elsewhere. "5. I am not exactly sure how much "pork" goes to Alaska but a few years back Alaska was getting 30 times the national average and for a state with a relatively small population, that isn't "hay."" Many people think population but fail to realize that Alaska is the largest state in this country and regardless of its population is extremely important to this economy. The state is rich in resources such as oil and natural gas. That one state provides roughly 20% of all the power generated in this country. That power is why so much money is spent on Alaska.
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• United States
3 Sep 08
Well put Taskr
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• United States
3 Sep 08
Obama has experience on Captial Hill, and Palin does not really have that kind of experience. "Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, succeeding State Senator Alice Palmer as Senator from the 13th District, which then spanned Chicago South Side neighborhoods from Hyde Park-Kenwood south to South Shore and west to Chicago Lawn.[27] Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[28] He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[29] In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures,[30] and in 2003, Obama sponsored and led unanimous, bipartisan passage of legislation to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained and legislation making Illinois the first state to mandate videotaping of homicide interrogations.[29][31]" this is according to Wikipedia, which may not be that accurate, but this did have links to it. So, what experience are you accusing him of not having?
• United States
4 Sep 08
I read your discussion, and I am still telling that he has experience. It may not executive experience, but he still has some kind of experience. Having legislative experience is a good thing, not a bad thing. Okay, so he is lacking in one area, but he will get that kind of experience if he is elected president.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
4 Sep 08
If you had read my discussion you would have noticed a little word call executive experience. Everything you have wrote was legislative experience in a state not a nation. We are voting for the Chief Executive of the USA not the Chief Legislator of Illinois.
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@oneidmnster (1384)
• United States
2 Sep 08
Let's get one thing straight,none of the 4 people that are running on this years Presidential ticket are qualified to run this country.Are these people the best that the most powerful nation in the world can do? In reference to who is more qualified between Palin and Obama.The answer is very easy.Palin has experience running an entire state.Obama seems to be most experienced at running his mouth. Obama is a Senator who has never introduced a bill of note.Being a lawyer means he knows how to screw people,not lead them.He has just as many,if not more skeletons in his closet as Palin.Her's are coming out now because she was just picked to be McCain's running mate.Biden has just as many as them both.His are just being over-shadowed because his came out a week before hers. I'm not at all racist,but as I've said before,if Obama were white,he would have been out of this race a long time ago.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
2 Sep 08
GewCew, Being a governor of a state is so much more akin to the presidency than being a senator it isn't even funny! First, a governor is in the administration branch of the state government as is the presidency! Most of the decisions a govenor of a state make are equivalent to the types of decisions a president makes (with the exception of foreign policy)only on a smaller scale! Experience-wise Palin is more qualified for PRESIDENT right now than is Obama! Obama's most grueling decisions to date have been whether to vote present or actually have a stance on anything!
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
2 Sep 08
Out of the last five Presidents four have been Governors. This year there will not be a Governor but only one ticket actually has executive experience, and that is McCain/Palin. Only one ticket has candidates that have actually made decision that fell on their shoulders and once again it is McCain/Palin.
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
3 Sep 08
And she actually does have some experience in foreign country negotiations. Yes, it was with Canada, but it's still a foreign country. And don't forget when Obama was in IL, he didn't vote yes or no most of the time, just "present." And he's been campaigning so much for President that he hasn't made many votes in Washington either. (If you compare voting records, McCain has bothered to vote even while campaigning.) She's definitely more qualified to LEAD than Obama. There are some other Governors who turned Senators who admit that they made more decisions in a week as Governor than as Senator for a year.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
4 Sep 08
I did not think about that when I wrote this discussion, but yes as Governor of Alaska she would have to have some dealing with Canada. Good point to everything you wrote, but that has to be the best.
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3 Sep 08
Surely anyone can not be worse then George Bush.