Are people naturally good or naturally evil?
By Twitchy164
@Twitchy164 (128)
United States
September 6, 2008 11:29pm CST
There are many arguments possible here and it is an interesting discussion. I think answers depend on whether a person is an optimist, pessimist, or realist. On one hand, I believe humans will do anything to survive, primal instinct. But on the other, we have complex social and emotional interactions that can override our instinct. What do you think people naturally are?
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@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
7 Sep 08
People are naturally good and evil. We all have it in us. Naturally, we all want to eat, drink, sleep, reproduce, and hunt to some degree. We all want to be like other animals, in a way, but since we have become more "civilized", we are overcoming some of our animal instincts. Some of us are good or want to be good, and some of us are bad or want to be bad. Some of us are conflicted on a daily basis with our good and bad sides.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
8 Sep 08
Hitler did not have to kill the Jews, he wanted to, he chose to. He was well-educated, he knew right from wrong, but yet, he still chose to kill the Jews. Why? Because he chose to. He knew that it was wrong, but he did it anyway, and he got millions of people to follow him. Those people also knew it was wrong, but you know what one of the military's mottos are "Right or wrong, you serve your country". You do what your leader tells you to do. Look at are men in Iraq right now. We did not have to go to war with them. Bush wanted to go to war with them. Our military was only doing what our president told them to do. They could have all chosen not to do it, but they still did what he told them to do. When people think that they do not have a choice, they still have one. It might get them hurt, or killed, but you still have that choice. Most everyone is taught as a child what is right and what is wrong, and it is up to us to make the choice between that right and that wrong.
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
7 Sep 08
So people are totally free to make the choice. Faced with thousands of decisions daily, people can choose what to do based on whether they're good or evil.
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@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
8 Sep 08
Hitler believed he was doing the world a good thing. He may have been a psychopath, but he saw them as nothing more than animals, inferior to other humans. And because he was well-educated, he managed to instill similar feelings into the populace. He rallied his country and they followed him. Of course there were those that disagreed, but they didn't oppose him; those that did were eliminated. The people in our military certainly have a choice, and those over there truly believe they are doing good. Our country is supposed to have a balance of power and if the country believed our military should be withdrawn, it would be. Whether it is really balanced or not is a totally different discussion topic.
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@jfilips (261)
• United States
7 Sep 08
Even if people say they are good or u see that someone is good, nice and extremely friendly person. I am very certainly sure that there would be some "evil" inside that person, maybe he/she wouldnt show it but i am very sure every person has its good and evil side. Cuz you now, no one is perfect ^^
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@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
8 Sep 08
Funny thing about perfection...people generally like a person who admits they make mistakes and doesn't need everything to be perfect. Would admitting you have a darker side have the same effect? I wouldn't think so, but it would be important in fully understanding any person.
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
8 Sep 08
I would say that people are not necessarily born good or evil. Well most people are not. I think there are some people that are born evil as in serial killers who are nasty from early childhood onwards. They say the early signs of a pyschopath are in their torturing of animals when they are children. They start there and later graduate to killing and torturing humans.
But apart from them I would say that most people are good and they are influenced by their upbringing and shaped by their environment. It is an individual thing. You cannot say that all people are one or the other and I am totally opposed to the concept that everyone is born sinful. That is complete nonsense and simply ensures that people grow up feeling guilty about things they do not even understand and things they should not feel guilty about. That concept is why people are so disturbed these days.
Children are very impressionable and if they are brought up in an unpleasant violent, unjust environment then they will be shaped by it, just as they are shaped by warm, loving environments.
We are social beings and that interaction is vital to us and like any other animal we will do what we must to survive, or at least we will try to. That does not make us evil. Before you even start thinking about this you need to decide what is good and what is evil? What are your definitions of them? Are you definitions the same as other peoples definitions?
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
8 Sep 08
I have know children be unkind but I am not sure I would regard it as evil. I think some people can be evil. To me being evil would be doing harm to someone else intentionally knowing that you are causing pain and enjoying the action of causing pain.
I am not sure there are many children born with the desire to cause pain. Environment can make us like that. People can grow up in world where all they see are people causing pain, like gangs etc, and they join to protect themselves but in a different environment were everyone was nice would that child have invented gangs to cause pain? I don't think so.
There is no generalisations that can be made about people. Each one is an individual and all factors must be taken into consideration. That being said there are psychopaths who seem to be born evil in that they enjoy causing pain and are seen to do it from very early in life. I do not think it has anything to do with religion though. I think it is something wrong in the brain. Just some way the brain is wired differently.
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
8 Sep 08
Yes, I agree that upbringing and a person's surroundings have so much more to do with a person than their birth. Everyone is different, and sometimes things happen in development to make strange things happen.
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
8 Sep 08
I realize this is very dependent on point of view. This is why it makes for such good discussion; because while some people have one view, someone else has a totally different one. I share your realist view on the situation and believe upbring has much to do with how a person acts later in life. But as young children, without much impression, do people tend to be good or evil?
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@klaudine (3650)
• Indonesia
7 Sep 08
It depends form what kind of point of view you see this matter. The religious and the humanist see people as they are basically good and kind. The society changed them into someone bad. The society, especially the bad society, and the learning of bad things influence the pure mind, so they become a bad people.
But Freudian believes in something else. They believe that in every human being, there is an animal instinct. In the unconscious mind, there are the basic level called 'id'. Which, this kind of unconscious mind controlled the basic need of human and they tend to do things based on natural instinct. The only thing that prevent "id" to be out of control is "ego" and "superego"
I don't know which one is true, but I believe in natural balance, even in a very good man, there is an evil side, and in a very bad guy, there is a good side in their heart. That's the concept of yin and yang :p (sorry for being a little bit out of topic, but I thought this is quite related with good and bad, so I just blabber it out)
@klaudine (3650)
• Indonesia
7 Sep 08
Jeckyll and Hyde is my fave classic story. I like it because, as you have said before, showed us that there is always two contradicted side in every human life. There is good, and there is bad, and you can only see which one is taking control of your life more dominantly. Sometimes, without you even realize it, you have done something bad to other people, and somehow, you like the feeling of seeing someone you hate suffer...
That's when your bad side takes control LOL
@klaudine (3650)
• Indonesia
7 Sep 08
Hey! I like positive and negative too, I just adapting the question, because sometimes positive and negative is more related to the attitude towards something but good and bad is still in the grey area. I won't say 'evil' because it is too specific, and what's bad not necessarily evil. And agree with you, 'evil' is more a religious term to be used in non-religion discussion :)
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
7 Sep 08
Blabber all you would like, because it adds to the conversion :D
I certainly agree with you about there being two sides to a person. Actually the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde jumped to mind when I was reading your comment. And yes, it does very much have to do with the concept of good and evil.
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@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
8 Sep 08
There are plenty of good people who do not believe in any sort of religion.
@JonnyMLOT (65)
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8 Sep 08
your right about that good people come in all color & all faiths and unfortunately some christians are the meanest people you ever want to meet an athiest can be just as kind hearted as anyone the way we think is is what determens the amount of evil in are hearts and im not judging anyone GOD gave us the freedom to chose and your choice is your choice and mine is mine
@alfeebester (96)
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7 Sep 08
People are naturally neautral. Want proof? Look at a newborn baby. They aren't good and they aren't evil. It is how they are brought up and the experiences they have that shape their personality. I'm sure there are people who will argue, though, that our personalities are detirmined by our genes.
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@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
8 Sep 08
Looking at a newborn baby doesn't do much to determine whether they are good or evil. What if they were just allowed to grow? What kind of person would they be?
@cuttyrish (2667)
• United States
7 Sep 08
we are all naturally / intrinsically good. when we mix with other people, we become bad, because jealousy arises, or we all have a personal view and likes..
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
7 Sep 08
I've not seen this take on it, and it is interesting. I do see your point though; when people get together there are many social and emotional influences both ways.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
8 Sep 08
People are naturally inclined to do evil. It does not mean that all of them will go off and murder, but given the circumstances and without God's grace and the power of Jesus Christ whether now or later in that person's life, that person will do wicked things. Even a good person has that evil lurking in them, but often he or she will not let it come to surface or rather God will give a small light of nature or conscience. It does not depend on being an optimist - Hitler was one and he wanted to rule the world nor being a pessimist, giving up and letting some good person die because what is the use, or a realist, someone who studies medicine might decide that it is fruitless to let some old person live, but what is in one's heart.
If a person lets evil grow, and desires it more, he is evil, but if he depends on God, and trusts HIS goodness he is good.
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
8 Sep 08
I think you're putting too much into religion. There are many good people out there that do not believe in God or even in a religion. From your point of view the world is a terrible place because so many people are evil for not believing the same beliefs you have. Hitler was an optimist and HE believed he was doing good. I respect that you have a different of view and I'm glad you contributed to the discussion.
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
7 Sep 08
Many things depend on someones point of view. I don't think there is a word synonymous with evil that doesn't depend on view point.
@goldeneagle (6745)
• United States
7 Sep 08
For the most part, I think that people are pretty much good. Then again, there are some truly evil people in this world. Unfortunately, we cant kill all the bad ones...
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
7 Sep 08
Is the act of ending someone else's life not evil then? Who are the bad ones? And do we understand their point of view? Its difficult to define what "good" or "evil" truly is.
@zhaosonghan (1039)
• China
7 Sep 08
It is a deep question,lots of movies and articles had discuss this,but don't have a result.It's no standard for this question,you can say natura good,and you can say natura evil,it depends on what you think.For me i consider that human is natua good
@k1virus1978 (543)
• Singapore
7 Sep 08
People are born not of devil neither good, when they first born out of the mom's womb. It's just how the way the parents teach the kids determine how will they be when they grow up.
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
7 Sep 08
The way the child is treated by the parents will probably depend a lot on the child. An out of control child may fray a parents temper more often, a mute child may worry parents, etc.
@tapnaroy12 (875)
• India
7 Sep 08
hi
Generally speaking people are neutral. Just think of an atom. It's composed of a -vely charged electron and +vely charged proton will along with a neutron. It's neither +ve nor -ve generally. But as the field of energies vary or circumstances change, we may have a -vely chaged or +vely charged particle. Similiarly, people change as they face different circumstances. A good (+ve) circumstance will result in goodness while a corrupted circumstances will make one evil.
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
7 Sep 08
Chemistry. I like it. lol
It isn't a bad analogy for the situation too. Atoms and molecules are always trying to remain balanced and neutral, because that is where they are the most stable. However, there are those molecules that have a positive side and a negative side to achieve neutrality. So, again, its back to having a mix of both within one thing.
@xtreme18 (6)
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7 Sep 08
This is a good discussion and there can be many different answers. However, in my opinion, people are naturally good. However, depending on their environment they can become evil. They can mean good, but when they are not successful, they do anything to survive, meaning their actions can be bad. That makes us think that those people are evil, but we are wrong. They are naturally good, but they just seem evil because of their actions.
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
7 Sep 08
So if someone has a good intention but fails, it can be bad? Does that mean any decision we make will end up having either a good or bad outcome?
@kellys3ps (3723)
• United States
7 Sep 08
I like to believe that all people are naturally good, and that something happens to make them do bad things.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
8 Sep 08
hi twitchy I think people start out as naturally good little'
babies and depending on parents and family turn out naturally
good adults or homemade evil adults. God didnt make inferior
stuff so we all start out as naturally good babies, then what happens later may change us. but I think most people are
naturally good and sometimes they act badly but basically'
they are good.
@creative_genius (992)
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7 Sep 08
I don't think people are naturally good or bad, it depends on how they have been brought up and their experiences. I would like to say naturally good, however if you pay attention to the news you know this is not true.
@sumiirajj (1983)
• India
7 Sep 08
Hi friend,No one is a criminal or evil or great by birth.Only after they grow up they become evil or criminals or great people.So it depends on the circumstance they grow.So to have a control over our thoughts and behaving properly depends.Thanks for sharing.Happy mylotting.
@Twitchy164 (128)
• United States
7 Sep 08
So people are naturally a blank slate, and, through experiences and our environment, we are influenced to become good, evil, or a mix of the two.
@marshiemallows (1010)
• Philippines
7 Sep 08
i remember my teacher telling us that people are naturally good because we are made in God's own image and likeness. the thing is we have the freedom to choose which one to do, that is maybe the reason why some do bad stuff because of the situation they are in.