McCain's New Campaign Ad Gaffe
By zydecokitten
@zydecokitten (451)
United States
September 10, 2008 1:19pm CST
McCain's ads have been consistent, they have put words into Obama's mouth; and he has said, in his speeches, that DC WAS A MESS and that he was the one to fix it.
I am not going to challenge his ability to fix things in this thread.
His new ad states that "he has challenged Republicans in DC and won and that Palin has challenged Republicans in Alaska and won". Now, which is it, is DC A MESS (we know that it is), or has he challenged his own party and won? Everyone knows that McCain has supported 90-95% of everything that Bush has proposed (he has stated it himself). He in the last eight years has hardly ever crossed party lines. What he did before that is of NO CONSEQUENCE TO ME. His last eight years is the standard that I view Mr. McCain on.
Talk about flip flopping. I appreciate a candidate that will change his mind when a situation changes. Situations are fluid, and a good leader will change according to the fluidity of the situation, however, this is not the kind of change Mr. McCain is talking about. He is lying. He has not challenged the Republicans to the point that he has effected positive changes during the Bush administration. He is not what the voters in the November election asked for; the end of the war in Iraq is one example.
It would be really nice if McCain has one idea of his own. The mantra of the Democratic campaign has been "Change". He has mocked that from the get go, however, what did you hear during the Republican Convention and since then from McCain and his campaign? The word "change" has come out of his mouth as often as it has come out of the mouth's of the Democrats. Hmmm I am wondering if he has an original thought in his head??????
Why is Sarah Palin not splitting off from McCain and campaigning to spread the word further? Because McCain has nothing to say and Sarah can get the crowed wound up. We have to remember that Sarah is not running for the Presidential position. She is a tag along as the VP candidate. The race is between Obama and McCain, not Obama and Palin.
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@mcat19 (1357)
• United States
10 Sep 08
What bothers me about the most holy McCain is that he has no ideas. All he can do is tell lies about Obama and go all to pieces about lipstick on pigs, a phrase he used about Hillary Clinton not too long ago. He used to talk about ideas; but now he has his new arm candy, Palin; she is drumming the old right wing bass drum and those folks are loving it. Time will tell.
@evanslf (484)
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11 Sep 08
I want to challenge the point that McCain is a Maverick, ie that by voting against Bush 10% of the time, that makes him some kind of special guy because he 'only' voted with Bush 90% of the time.
Let's look at the facts shall we. GQ politics have compiled comprehensive tables showing how house and senate members, both Dem and Rep, voted in the last 8 years. There are two key columns, one is 'President support' which indicates how often that member voted for what Bush wanted (here McCain's rating is 90%, ie he voted for Bush 90% of the time). The other column is 'Party Unity', which means how often that member voted along the congressional party line in the House or Senate. Here McCain's Party Unity score is 81%, ie he voted along the congressional senate party unity line 81% of the time.
Now let us look at the records of several other Republican senators. PS means presidential support, PU means party unity:
Norm Coleman - PS 78%, PU 79%
Susan Collins - PS 77%, PU 64%
Gordon Smith - PS 81%, PU 77%
Olympia Snowe - PS 73%, PU 59%
Arlen Specter, PS 79%, PU 66%
Indeed there are a good several number of other Republican Senators who have voted for George Bush (PS) less than 90% of the time (Mel Martinez, John Thune and Lisa Murkowski in particular whose PS is in the low 80s though there are others whose PS is in the high 80s) but whose vote along congressional Senate party lines is more loyal than McCain's which I have not included here.
Clearly therefore, we can see that there are 5 Republican US Senators who have voting records along Bush lines and Congressional Senate party lines who are more maverik than McCain's, in particular the three senators Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe and Arlen Specter who are worthy of note and can really claim the mantle 'maverik'.
We know that McCain is being compared to George Bush III or McBush. Thinking about Bush, if we only analyse the 'Presidential support' score in this table, then the situation is even worse for McCain. Here, we see that 25 - yes 25 - Republican US senators voted with George Bush less than 90% of the time. So the Republicans have 49 Senators, 23 have voted alongside Bush more often than McCain and 25 have voted alongside Bush less often than McCain. So McCain is slap bang in the middle as far as US Republican Senators go in terms of loyalty to what President Bush wanted over the last 8 years.
I think that McCain was a genuine maverick in the Clinton years and in the early 2000s. However, over the last few years, that has clearly changed. I think McCain concluded, that if he wanted to secure the Republican nomination in future, he would have to toe the party line more often, and in particular he would have to provide unstinting support to Bush in order to win over the many Republicans that had doubts about him. This therefore explains his policy reversals over the last few years (on the 2001 tax cuts, on immigration, on torture to mention but a few).
So he is trying to cash in on his previously maverick image to try to persuade voters that he will not be like Bush, but yet we see that he is a solidly loyal republican, middle of the road, who has voted alongside Bush loyally with the rest of the Republican Senators over the last 8 years.
I'm going to start a discussion about this, because I think it is important that people know where McCain really stands
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
10 Sep 08
You have brought out some excellent points, zydecokitten! The reason Sarah Palin is campaigning so closely with McCain -like they are joined at the hip -is because everyone knows that McCain alone could not generate any excitement. She is being used to sell McCain to the rest of the Republicans(who were not thrilled with him from the start). I think they are in for a rude awakening if they believe that inserting her into this race is going to magically draw all of the women who are for Obama away. I couldn't care less whether our future president is a man or a woman, only that they have what it takes to get the job done.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
10 Sep 08
So um, help me out with something is this the same DC that Biden has been in for 30 years or so? Or is that a different DC? Because if I'm wrong than I guess I'll back off of it. I may be thinking of a different DC and I don't want to confuse the 2, Biden's DC and McCain's DC. So, did they belong to two different congresses? It may be that Biden's DC was no problem and did all kinds of good for the people of that country, where as, the one McCain was in was involved in all kinds of corruption on both sides of each house.
I'm giving Obama a pass on this one because he's only been in DC for a couple years, um...by the way was he in Biden's or McCain's dc?
@zydecokitten (451)
• United States
10 Sep 08
Here is my issue, I want to state it clearly so it will not be twisted. McCain said, after years in DC as a "Maverick" that DC was a mess. McCain mocked the Democrats for wanting "changed". NOW, McCain is saying that he wants "change" every time he opens his mouth. McCain is saying he "fought his party and won" despite the fact that in the last 8 years he went with his party and supported his party. THAT IS MY ISSUE HERE, my only issue here. He is the one that is touting that he can make change and had every opportunity to make it, he is the one that mocked the Democrats about their use of the "change" concept. Now HE is the one who is using what he mocked as his montra, and lying to say that he has been an and will be the Harbinger of Change.
Since I specifically said in my thread post that I was speaking about the last eight years, let me say that during those years, until the last, it was a Republican Congress running the country as well as a Republican President (who now won't let Congress get anything done).
This information should ease your mind and help you back out of this concern. Thank you for asking and allowing me to elaborate.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
10 Sep 08
Since the convention I too noticed the new trend of Palin giving the speeches and talking about McCain while he stood there smiling. It reminded me of watching someone talk about their dottering old grandpa.
I also slipped a little farther over the fence when "change" started coming out of their mouths considering how much it was mocked when Obama started talking about it. I don't believe that I'm the only undecided voter who's paying attention and getting closer to making a decision so the McCain camp really should stop playing games and start creating confidence in the voters who will decide this election.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
10 Sep 08
I am so glad you pointed all of this out. I have a problem with that side that thinks that because anything that happened over a year ago with McCain is irrelevant, but not his "maverick" style. It's irratating.
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