For Those Outside the U.S.

@Ldyjarhead (10233)
United States
September 13, 2008 6:12am CST
I've often wondered this, and since we have so many members here that aren't for the U.S., what better place to ask than myLot? If you live outside of the U.S. and have another language as your first language, what is your native language, and how many languages do you know? Obviously you know at least some English because you're posting here (and I applaud you for doing so, by the way). How do you know English? Is it a basic subject in school that all children must learn? Or is it something you choose to study (much like our schoolchildren in the U.S. take a year or more of Spanish, French or whatever)? Do you need English for your job, or are you just looking towards the future when it will be an advantage for you to know English? Are you around English-speaking people very much, or do you practice your English (at least the written word) on the internet only? What advantages do you see in knowing how to read/write/speak English?
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@smilyn (2967)
• United States
13 Sep 08
I'm from India. My country has many regional languages. This is the speciality of our country.. So I know my own language, the official language of my country - hindi and the official foreign laguage- English. Oother than these three, I learnt French in my school days. I had great fun while learning French and I loved it. So out of my own interest I learnt the language. But now I do not have any friends with whom I can communicate in French. So my French grammar, vocabulary everything is gone. English is the common language that we use in my office. We are very comfortable with it. It becomes very easy to communicate with our clients at other localities too. Other than English, I cannot communicate in anyother language with my online friends.
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
13 Sep 08
Maybe you could find a French forum to post in as well. You are very well versed in languages. A great talent.
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@smilyn (2967)
• United States
13 Sep 08
Thanks a lot GardenGerty, That is a great idea indeed...
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@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
Thank you for posting this. So other countries DO see English as international standard? I think most of us do think that, and wonder why some politicians are trying to push another language on us, when obviously there would be many to choose from, and English seems to be the one language that all other countries agree on.
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@mba4ever (118)
• Malaysia
13 Sep 08
I live in Malaysia where majority of the people here speaks Malay, Chinese and Tamil. Other minor languages are like Kadazan, Iban, Bidayuh etc are spoken in Sabah and Sarawak (East Malaysia). 1. How do you know English? Our country was under occupancy of British, Diuch and Japan. English are teach in the school as a subject at all level. Now science & mathematic tought in English at the primary school. 2. Do you need English for your job? No. However know other language such as English will help. 3. Are you around English speaking people? No. However I make my master degree in UK and advance diploma in Japan. 4. Advantage of knowing English Many advantages. Can read many books, can participates in international conference & training etc.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
Thank you for you input. Is it difficult to communicate in your own country with so many languages? Or is there one primary that everyone knows, but other languages are minor?
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@mba4ever (118)
• Malaysia
13 Sep 08
Malay is the official language. Everybody (99.99%) know Malay language. Malays thought in Malay school, Chinese school and Tamil school. Everybody must pass Malay at A-Level to get full certificates and get work. Government use Malay in all official correspondence. Malay and Chinese speak Malay. Malay and India speaks Malay. Sometime Chines and India speak Malay or English.
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@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
13 Sep 08
I am going to come into this so that I can see what others have to say. I think this is going to be interesting in the end.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
I definitely think it will be. There are so many other countries represented here and they manage quite well on this English-only forum.
@chengbeb (285)
• Philippines
13 Sep 08
I am from the Philippines and English is our second language. I actually work in a call center and people from the US would often times ask me where I'm located and I'd always answer in the Philippines. Some of them would ask me if I'm an American and if I'm not how come I have excellent English skills. I would always answer them it was the primary language in my family. I grew up in a family who prioritized the English language because it is the universal language. They want to make sure that wherever I am I will be able to understand and speak fluent English. I studied in a catholic all girls school whose primary language is also English and it is also a basic subject in school. I converse well and I can fully express what I want to say.
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@chengbeb (285)
• Philippines
14 Sep 08
Thank you for your compliment. I believe that before we learn any other language we should be well accustomed and well versed on our own language first. Our national hero Dr. Jose Rizal once said a person who doesn't know how to speak his native language is far worst than a stinky fish.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
I agree, your English is very good, I would dare say better than a lot of the people here in the U.S. Which makes me even angrier that some in this country still insist that we should learn another language. Which would we pick?
@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
13 Sep 08
English is my second language. But I really don't learn it on purpose. I had watched friends for ten years. Besides, I am attracted by American dramas. As a result, I get used to the English environment. As a postgraduated student, I have to read lots of English papers so as to do my research. Also, In order to get my degree, I have to publish some English papers. Finally, we have to give English reports to the public every week. Thus, For me, I watch English, read English, write English and speak English all the time though it is not my native tongue. This is how I live with English!' Take care!
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• China
14 Sep 08
My native tongue is Chinese including Cantonese and Mandarinese. Have a great day! I don't know why I love America so much!
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
What IS your native tongue? And you also just gave me the inspiration for another discussion, something else I've always wondered.
@allen0187 (58582)
• Philippines
13 Sep 08
hi ladyjarhead. i'm from the philippines and yes i do speak and write fluent english. in the philippines, english is a subject taught as early as preschool so filipinos grow up with english as a second language. you can say that being good in spoken and written english is a double edged sword. many filipinos get jobs, especially international ones, because we are fluent in english. proof of this is the sprouting call center companies here in the country. the customer service representative you're talking to on the other line about your computer problems, medical records, and credit card billing might be a filipino. lol! on the other hand, some filipinos flaunt their english accents, western, southern, and what have you, and totally forget our own language. would you believe that some radio disc jockeys and celebrities flaunt their ignorance of tour own language claiming that they do not know how to speak filipino? to them this is a badge of coolness and what's more shameful is that some ignorant filipinos completely swallow this sham hook line and sinker! i personally think that learning and speaking another language aside from your native one is a necessity what with the shrinking world we have right now. i for one would like to learn niponggo, french, spanish and german but at the same time i'm tryign to learn a number of local dialects here in my country. i think our national hero jose rizal says it best, those that do not know their own native language stinks more than a rotten fish. of course, that sounds better in filipino. lol!
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@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
I agree that one should hold on to their heritage and not lose the native tongue, no matter what that may be. We lost most of that in generations past right here in the U.S.
@allen0187 (58582)
• Philippines
15 Sep 08
really? how did that happen? i think the same is happening in my country.
@balasri (26537)
• India
13 Sep 08
I am from Chennai Tamilnadu state in India.My mother tongue is Tamil.Heard about it? I speak English very fluently as most of us who had finished their school.English is taught to us from the childhood.In fact it is so natural for us to know English.It is the legacy the British left us as the leave our country giving us the independence.Of course knowing English has enabled us to work anywhere in the world except a few countries.
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@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
I know that a lot of members here from other countries speak English very well, but I didn't realize it was so widespread in other countries such as yours. Thank you for this education.
• United States
14 Sep 08
[b][/b]choiocampo explains it alot. there's a lot of advantage if you can speak english. it's a plus if your looking for a job. it serves as a lingua franca for many.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
13 Sep 08
I am going to reply to this discussion because it is fascinating and very interesting. I am a native English speaker because I come from Great Britain. I learned French for five years when I was at school. At the moment I am learning Spanish. We British people are not known for our skills in learning foreign languages. I see advantages to being able to speak common languages when traveling. I can get by in Germany as I can speak a few German words. I can speak French and the local people appreciate that. One day I hope to able to speak Spanish really well and then I can go to Central America and South America. I hope that you don't mind me responding because I am like you a native English speaker.
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@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
Of course I don't mind! This wasn't just for those that don't have English as a first language. I welcome input from anyone. I agree that in Europe it would be advantageous to learn at least a bit of the language of the neighboring countries, but where does it stop? There are so many in such a small area.
@underdogtoo (9579)
• Philippines
13 Sep 08
I am from the Philippines and we speak some form of English. We have a number of different native languages of which I can understand about a dozen. I took up English in school where I also studied Latin for four years in high school along with Spanish. On my own I studied French and Italian and a smattering of Chinese. I also write in computerese being proficient in about a dozen computer languages. I hope this information helps in your survey. If for some reason the lingua franca of the world suddenly changed to Martian, I would probably learn it too, just as quickly.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
Wow, you have done well to learn so many languages. I am glad that English is my first language. My father's family emigrated from France to Canada in generations past and then south to the U.S. My father knew how to speak French but his parents were already gone before I was born, so French was rarely spoken so I didn't learn it as a child except for a very few words/phrases.
@elitess (5070)
• Ipswich, England
13 Sep 08
Hi there Ldyjarhead. I am from Romania (Europe) and my native language is romanian. I have learned english first of all from cartoon network (when i was a child) but also learned it in kinder garden, in school, high school, college (as a first foreign language). My second foreign language would be francaise. I also know a bit of spanish. English is a must in most of the work environments here in my country as most of the work places are foreign. Well, i only practise it on the computer and in school - the only other place i had the chance to speak it for a longer time was when i was in Greece on holiday.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
Thank you for validating what I already believed. I can't understand why some in this country say that we must learn other languages to be able to make it in today's world, when every other country I've heard from so far says that English is the standard. Makes no sense to me.
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• Indonesia
13 Sep 08
hi there. i come from indonesia, and have indonesian languages for our nationality languages, and have many native languages. for english i'm still learning about it, so sometimes if i read some writing in english i have to think a lot for it, and never far away from dictionaty, so i think mylot is best for practice, and sorry for my poor english
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Sep 08
Gosh that thinking stuff is really hard too. I hate doing it! lol How are you doing?
@klaudine (3650)
• Indonesia
13 Sep 08
Hello Ldyjarhead :) I am from Indonesia. My native language is, of course, Indonesian :) I can speak Indonesian, English, knows a little French and Chinese (but I cannot write in both). I know English since I was a kid. My mom get a private tutor for a private English lesson that came to my house twice in a week. I am not using English at regular base, but I use it a little in some conversation :) I haven't get a job, but yes, I need it for the study at my university. Of course it would be a great advantage for me if I understand English because my university uses English as the learning base and for the Final Project Report and Presentation. :) I don't practice English anymore, I have stopped the private tutor since years ago because I moved to another town for studying. And I see lots of advantages of knowing more than one language, one of them, at least I could make a good money here in myLot using my English skill :) Thank you for bringing this up, Ldyjarhead. Have a nice day
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Even with the few posts here already I am seeing that there is a trend in other countries verifying that English is the language to know.
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@klaudine (3650)
• Indonesia
13 Sep 08
Yes it is true. With the globalization you can see that English, which since long time ago denoted as the International Language, becomes so much more important. We're no longer dealing with local market and local people anymore, we're dealing with the world. And how would you be able to deal with the world if you are not able to understand the world's language. That is why many countries want their people to start learning English :)
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@zykon84 (165)
• Portugal
13 Sep 08
I'm for portugal, and here we learn english in school, and i'm glad for that, otherway i can't post here. i already now a little bit of spanish and french (i use it in work) Now i'm tinking in try learn chinese
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@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
13 Sep 08
Wow, learning Chinese is a lofty goal. I wish you well ...
@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
14 Sep 08
I've always found this interesting as well, and wondered the same thing. I know we here in the USA wish we could be taught many of the other languages out there, but hope they are learning ours as well. I have heard some from other countries even say English was one of the easier languages to learn as well.
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• United States
13 Sep 08
I live in the U.S. now but I'm a native of the Philippines. In my country, English is the main language of instruction, of course save for the "Filipino" subject which is our national language (otherwise called "Tagalog"). Almost everyone can converse in English or at least understand the language particularly in the city of Manila. We use our native language in everyday living, though. There are so many Americans and English-speaking Europeans in my country now so we got to speak English once in a while. Besides, as far as my country is concerned, English is the business language. Being able to speak/read/write in English has helped me a lot (and a lot of Filipinos as well) in getting higher-paying jobs. Many have gone to different countries as well because there is no language impediment. It is indeed helpful to be bilingual or multilingual if one wants to go international. I myself can also speak Spanish, French, German, and a bit of Chinese. Thanks for this discussion!
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@Harley009 (1416)
• India
14 Sep 08
First of All, English is not Just a language of US. but it is also the language of Briton and many other common wealth countries. The accents differs though. I'm from India. India have a lot of languages, each state have their own official local language it is like 30. There are 300 more other spoken languages in India. There are states in India with English as official languages. My First language is "Malayalam" because I live in kerala state of India. My National Language is "Hindi" and I speak it to a limit. However I don't have to use Hindi in my daily communications or in offices, I'm not much fluent in Hindi even though it is my national language. But in Northern side of India most people knows Hindi or it's "Urdu" dialect, which is famous among Muslims in Northern India. English we learn from schools, either from the pre-school or 4th standard depends on the medium of instructions, we have a lot of English medium schools and local language medium schools as well. I can speak English well. Now I work with different nationalities so I improved my English. For white color Jobs English is a must, For local jobs its not. I learned in a "Malayalam" medium school, English started from 4th Grade onwards. After 10th Grade, medium of instruction changed to English and continued. In Indian schools English, Hindi and Local language are subjects. Some Internationally hosted Indians schools may not have local language though. We have option to choose additional languages like French, German, Urdu, Samskrit, Arabic, Spanish, etc. depends on schools. I know Arabic, but I can't speak it, but I try to do it. I can read and write and interpret pure Arabic to a limit. My mothertougue: Malayalam I know four Languages: Malayalam (read/write/speak/interpret), Hindi (r/w/s/i), English (r/w/s/i), Arabic (r/w/i(60%)) I learned English from schools, and speaking improved from colleges, work place, chatrooms, forums, etc. I work around Enlgish speaking people as well. I practice English with co-workers, and with my wife :p Knowing an International languages help us to communicate out of our box and get more informations and Jobs.
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• India
14 Sep 08
Knowing English is of course of great advantage as it is the international language. I have learned English from my school as it is a compulsory subject. My native language is urdu. It is of great advantage for me to know englsh.
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• Philippines
13 Sep 08
hi... I'm from Philippines here in our country it is really important to learn the English language. Basically, Filipinos first learn the basic English from their parents. It is a major subject in the school from pre-schoolers to college there would always be an English subject. And I'm proud that even the poor people who actually don't have any chance to finish their schooling knows how to speak English although their English is not that good you would still understand it. Not only in verbal English but Filipinos can also write English. That's why we could easily communicate to other people who don't know our language.
• Canada
14 Sep 08
I write\speak english.that is my first and native language. i have learned to speak\write french and spanish.but i am better at french.in school we are taught french mostly.a second language is up to us to study in high school. but i am english first and foremost. i might have other forms of language i was taught as a child but those i have no reqalelection of.
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