Sounds Pretentious to Me...

@SaintAnne (5453)
United States
September 14, 2008 12:10am CST
If there is a word that you could limit people from using so many times, what would it be? For me, I cringe a lot of times when I hear people say "gourmet" and/or "eclectic". The words (used separately) sound a bit pretentious to me. To quote Boyfriend: "if we had a drinking game when listening to people describe their tastes and designs as eclectic, we would always be drunk." I don't really have a good reason to have this personal vendetta against the word "gourmet" but I just do. The English dictionary is getting quite heavy and very thick... I think retiring some words would help lessen its load, don't you think? PS - Feel free to post your support for gourmet and/or eclectic. I promise I'll be gentle.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
14 Sep 08
There is a statement made by many people (Including myself!) that is not necessarily pretentious but I do find interesting and that is "To be honest" and "Honestly speaking....." It's as if we are actualling telling untruths every time we DON'T say this and you can only trust what we are saying 100% the times we DO! lol. As I have said I do it myself all the time! I wonder why we do this?
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• United States
14 Sep 08
I think that for the most part people start off by saying 'to be honest' or 'honestly speaking' when they are getting ready to say something that the other might take offense to, but that to say otherwise would be a lie.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
14 Sep 08
You said it better than I could, zigzagbuddha.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
14 Sep 08
I guess to emphasize that we believe in what we're actually saying? I don't know. I know I'm guilty of these phrases being part of a lot of my statements. Add "I must admit" to that list too. Lol! Honestly speaking, I like it but I must admit it's a little blah. Figure that one out.
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• United States
14 Sep 08
I agree with you on the word gourmet... I really despise that word and I cringe whenever I have to use it. Which I think has only been a couple of times in my life. One of those times (maybe both) was here on MyLot in fact. My sister and I are both very good cooks, and enjoy preparing meals that would be served in a, ahem, fine dining establishment, hehehe, often using exotic and hard to find ingredients. I could say we are epicures, gastronomes, or bon vivants, but any of those words is just as pretentious sounding and does not work to well when you are saying 'we are bon vivant cooks'. I know I have other words I find as pretentious... and my mother uses most of them, but the only ones that are coming to my mind right now, and probably because they are at the TOP of my list, are the words dear, sweetie, and honey... ESPECIALLY when they are used to address someone you don't even know!!!!
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• United States
14 Sep 08
Hahahaha, yep, you are right! Laughter and fine dining definitely equals a good time! We want to have a huge villa with a wonderful shady patio where we can eat and drink and laugh and enjoy a fine view all at the same time!
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• United States
14 Sep 08
I take that back... when my pretentious sister (not my fun sister) or my pretentious mother calls me 'dear' I want to backhand them as much as the clerk up at the store who calls me 'sweetie'. Gawd I hate that!!!
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Well, if you are a good cook and can serve it up in fine dining places, then I think you have every right to use the word gourmet. I think what bothers me more about people using it is that they use it left and right to describe themselves or the meals they've had when it's quite obvious that they shouldn't. But I'm a bit judgmental in this discussion. Lol. I'm guessing that dear, sweetie and honey are "loaded" terms for you. You are making me want to visit you and your family even more. Laughter and good cooking = good time!
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
16 Sep 08
Sisi, I do feel that gourmet is much overstated. I think its one of the words that I have come across in old archaic English as well. But with the evolution of the language some words as this one did not go under scissors (if that at all that makes any sense). And you rightly said, it certainly requires retiring. Foodie is much better, isn't it? Eclectic however, has a wider spectrum and is being used for different varied context and I do not have much problem. Actually I quite like the unique way of putting it even in the weirdest of places. I just like to share that in the current book (Nineteen Eighty Four) I have been reading, the dictionary was given new perspective altogether. Like the author harps on the using less nouns. Like instead of bad it would be not good and so on... Thanks. PS: this is a great disc, BTW!
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
16 Sep 08
Thanks mimpi. It's been a while since I last read 1984, I think I will read it again, just have to find the book in the house.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
16 Sep 08
I've found Brave New World so far.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
14 Sep 08
I don't really think about gourmet or eclectic. I hate the word surreal. That one makes me cringe.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
14 Sep 08
I don't know why surreal doesn't bother me but it should. Lol. Thanks laglen.
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@shiloh_222 (5479)
• Philippines
14 Sep 08
hi there... hahhaha...well put... hmmm... i guess, i am not in ur hit list then... hahahaha... i usually use other words like myriad, etc. etc.... happy mylotting...
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Yer safe!!! Don't worry, I like how you explained why you like the word "myriad" in your own discussion. Happy mylotting to you too!
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• Philippines
14 Sep 08
whew....great to hear that...and coming from you... it means really big to me.. i look up to your writing skills...hahahaha... me i am just muddling my way through... hahhahaa...LOL
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
14 Sep 08
There you go again. Pressure! What did I say about you doubting your writing skills? Okay. Thanks
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@jerzgirl (9327)
• United States
17 Sep 08
I'm one who uses eclectic to describe my own tastes because it's easier than saying, "I have a variety of tastes and don't focus on any one of them." Like the way I decorate....I'd call it "Early Poverty" with touches of the Southwest (I love native American pottery and art work) as well as kitty collectibles and a cat valance across the windows. Nothing matches, yet it's who I am. Eclectic. I don't think it's pretentious. It's just a verbally economic word.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
17 Sep 08
YeaY for someone taking a stand for eclectic! Thanks jerzgirl for sharing with us your thoughts on this matter and for showing us why eclectic is not such a bad and pretentious word. I enjoy native American pottery and art work too even though I almost failed that Native American class I attended. Always found it confusing as to who made what.
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@poohgal (6845)
• Singapore
19 Sep 08
Every word has its purpose. I like to use simple words rather than bombastic words. In this way, most of the people I talk to will understand what I'm saying. My work requires me to communicate with people all the time. It's important that what I say is being Understood. I have no issues with that 2 words if they are used correctly. However, more often than not, people use it wrongly (especially the word eclectic).
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
19 Sep 08
Thanks poohgal. Every word does have a purpose. I started not wanting to hear these two words when I hear a lot of people use it liberally and however they want to even if it's not appropriate. I don't have an issue with them if used correctly.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Sep 08
hi saint anne, I too dislike eclectic as it to me just means a' mixed up jumble of furniture made okay by calling it eclectic. in any other words it would just be a messy room setting. as for gourmet that is a good word if used properly. but so many things called gourmet are really greatly exaggerated good food tu not gourmet. to me gourmet means super duper really great food.I would rather just say this meal was the best I have ever eaten and I know good food.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
15 Sep 08
My room is messy right now, I'm going to call it eclectic, but not for long because I'm going to clean it tonight. I think both words I specified (eclectic and gourmet) are good but like you said only if they are used properly. Thanks Hatley.
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
14 Sep 08
For me, my pet peeve word is a non-standard word that WAY too many people use. "Irregardless" THAT one drives me nuts! It drives me crazy because of the double negative. From dictionary.com: Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so. Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s. "Regardless" means: [b]1. having or showing no regard; heedless; unmindful (often fol. by of). –adverb 2. without concern as to advice, warning, hardship, etc.; anyway: I must make the decision regardless. —Idiom 3. regardless of, in spite of; without regard for: They'll do it regardless of the cost. [/b] So by saying "irregardless".. you are saying "regardless", just adding an extra syllable, therefor wasting a half of a breath. Another one is "a whole nother" don't even get me started on THAT one. OK rant over.. lol Interesting discussion!
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Feel free to start on "a whole nother" anytime, dizzblnd. I used "irregardless" a lot when I was a child until my dad pointed out my mistake, just like you did here. So I learned from a young age that I shouldn't be using "irregardless". And I'm admitting this with my head down, I used "tucked out" around that same age too. You know, to describe a shirt not tucked into one's pants. Again, my dad pointed out this one to me. If it's out, then it's not tucked. Oh, those were the years. Thanks dizzblnd.
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@SaviourV (260)
• Malaysia
15 Sep 08
Saviour-V teleports in... I suppose I'm the only person who uses the term "electri-fried" when speaking about something that's just been roasted with an electric shock or something to that effect. And I happen to be guilty of creating my own acronyms on occasion - "RLTW" for "run like the wind", and "R-squared LTW" for "running like the wind", for instance. On the days when I happen to be quite sane, you might not hear those. If I start panicking and cursing, you might hear some rather interesting words and phrases that you'd never find in any ol' English dictionary. Heh heh. Saviour-V grins, and teleports out...
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Hello SaviourV. I'd say I was quite electri-fried by your post. Feel free to teleport back in anytime. Thanks!
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• United States
15 Sep 08
Isn't it funny how the word pretentious even sounds pretentious? I completely understand where you are coming from with the word "eclectic." They might as well be saying "My tastes are original and therefore better than yours." As for my personal pet peeves, I really dislike the word "tote" for some reason. I had a friend once that would always say things like "Could you tote that bag for me?" I hated that. Why not just say carry? Anyway, I also don't like it when people say "cut out the light". What are they cutting? Just say turn it off! /sigh. I guess those are more phrases than just single words that bother me.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Pretentious does sound pretentious so it fits perfectly as to what it's trying to define.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
15 Sep 08
I actually had another comment but it didn't get through. I just said that I am still enjoying the "tote the bag" phrase as I've never heard anyone say that before. I've heard people say "cut out the light" and you do have a point there. Thanks abigailcherry.
@magojordan (3252)
• Philippines
17 Sep 08
Nice discussion! Anyway there are a lot of words that I want to limit people from using always: Utilize, Paradigm, Resources, Processes and a lot of other fancy words used in dealing with clients. I would like to site this classic from Dilbert "I am UTILIZING this multi-tine tool to PROCESS this Starch RESOURCE" Translation: I'm using this fork to eat a potato. I mean business people could live too with simple words right?
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
17 Sep 08
I think they use these words you said to seem more businesslike and on top of one's game. Lol. I like the multi-line tool as fork the best. Thanks magojordan!
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Hey my buddie! What's wrong? Are you a gourmet cook with eclectic taste? I'm sorry, just couldn't help myself! You can retire both those words, works for me! At least they didn't say eccentric! You know, this got me to thinking about the dictionary. I haven't seen a new one in ages. I guess it must be pretty heavy these days! Probably weighs quite a few pounds, what's your guess? I don't have such brilliant friends so I can tell you none of them use any of those words, well may one might! My bf still says worser afer my correcting him over and over so that's what I'm dealing with! The word that people use to describe my taste is usually unique and I'm happy with that word! It truly encompasses it all! I have a brain fog as to what words I'd like to elimiate right now so whatever you want is ok by me!
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Maybe because he's been around all weekend and not working like he usually does and pissing me off more! Especially about the Chinese food!!!
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
15 Sep 08
I'd like to be a gourmet cook with eclectic taste! Maybe that's my problem... I'm a bit bitter because in no way I am close to achieving that. I got an unabridged dictionary, it's quite heavy and big and I got it about four years ago. Your bf is getting it in today's discussions, huh?